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Thought the following might be of note. I'm surprised I didn't even
think to post it here. Don't tell the roll-hogs about it! Quiet Treasure, Around Back, Hidden June 8, 2007 Dinner: Kappo Suzumaru in Tustin We stopped by Suzumaru about 6 years ago, and found just a basic suburban sushi bar. All-anglo clientele, a roll-dominated place that had nothing but die-hard loyalists eating there 500th order of same-ol'-same. We heard it had changed hands and was favorably mentioned in the past few years. But we forgot. It's really not the kind of place you'd expect a decent Japanese place to be despite the fact that within 3 blocks you have Wasabi, an omakase-only sushi bar, and Yoshino, which can always be counted on for quality. Still, behind McClure's, next to a decrepit Indian joint and across the street from a bat-cave of dense Latino housing? It's not where I troll for kaiseki. We tried Suzumaru a couple of weeks back, and I was offended when they put us at a table despite the fact that the sushi bar had not a single customer. Many tables were occupied, but I felt kinda diss'ed. Then, while sullen, Nancy made her move and got all her favorites and the dishes were large. While we ate, a large retinue appeared and were seated at the bar. It was some pre-arranged party. So completely full, we left an hour later and all I'd had was tofu and seaweed salad. For me, this wasn't optimum. But clearly Nancy was eager to get back. Her eyes unclouded by miff-dom, she thought the place felt more like a Japanese restaurant than any we've encountered outside Japan. Reticent. I acquiesced. There were again many tables occupied and again no one at the counter. We pressed for the sushi bar and after getting the okay from the sushi chef we were seated. I glanced at the drink menu and remembered that they have an unusually diverse sake menu. After a sake-tasting the previous day I was really hungry to compare these to one of my favorites, Hananomai. Happily they actually had it. Sadly it came only in a 35-dollar 720 ml bottle. The hell with it, I said, and we ordered it. I felt so reckless. It tasted great. I noticed whole scallops in the refrigerated bays so we got them sashimi and they were very good indeed. The itamae mentioned proudly that they were from Japan. They were excellent, but something notable was on both sides of the scallops; seaweed that neither of us had seen before. One was transparent and very crunchy, the other pale green and had a lot of personality for a seaweed: a notably sharp herbal taste though not bitter. "Different" seaweed? That's impressive. We perused one small wall-menu where a few cooked items were listed in English; baked shell-fish and such. But the bulk of the larger marker-board menu was in Japanese only. I could glean "fresh" toro, octopus, aji and other sashimi selections. But there was just too much kanji for me to read the rest. When he came for our next order, we said that could read a few but wanted to know the others. "Ano...", he stalled, "that's food that Japanese eat." We asked him to pick a few but he seemed reticent. We pushed hard and said we had eaten lots of Japanese food and only disliked natto. He still seemed a bit timid, and I thought I was going to have really muscle the guy by making him read out the whole menu. In retrospect I think maybe he was just lost in thought. Finally he issued a few dictates and off his wife and the waitress went. First we received "sakura ebi" or "Cherry Blossom sweet-shrimp". These were very small whole shrimp, maybe a half-inch long, eyes and legs and all, and a very bright pink. They had been lightly boiled, it seemed, and were in a parfait glass on two new kinds of seaweed. A few super-fine strands of crimson-red dried chili pepper were on top. To the side was a mayonnaise with a light red powder on top. It was fabulous. They explained everything we asked about, which was plenty. These shrimp were from his home prefecture of Shizuoka and only one shop in all of the USA had these and it was his shop. His brother ran a fish import place and he always got the very best of the very best. Next they brought us micro-sardines with strands of a very mild shallot mixed in a small bowl. There was also miyogo, which is ginger flower. It was really tasty. Clearly I wanted to be this man's best friend and so I asked if he drank sake. He said no, but his wife was glad to take up the slack. We introduced ourselves: She is Mamiko and he is Koz, possibly short for Kazuya. We began chatting about all things Japanese. He has a large HD TV dead-center behind the counter. It's played what appeared to be Japanese television, with the sound down. So periodically we'd discuss an onsen or site of natural beauty that might pop up. He was quite hospitable. Koz-san has owned and run the place for some 6 years, apparently buying it about 20 minutes after we visited the previous installation. He had concluded work at Benihana in Newport Beach for the prior 15 years. Before that apparently had a restaurant of his own for a few years in City of Industry where it was apparently "very hard". Mamiko's English is excellent and his English is fine but it does take a moment each time to start up. He starts his sentences and sprinkles them literally with "ano" which is a buffer word like "well..." or a more modern "like...". They asked Nancy if we liked tofu, but before I could clap a hand over her mouth they were off and running. Underscoring that their tofu was made in-house, they brought us each a little bowl of tofu with myriad other things, nori, salmon roe, what looked to be sturgeon roe (caviar), some small mushrooms I haven't seen before, and some other stuff. We mixed it up real good and I have to say it was just fabulous. We got a grilled fish cake that was just plain amazing. I assume it was produced in-house, and was great tasting as a fish cake but it also had some kind of savory sauce that made it, as Nancy said, about the best fish cake we've ever had. Imagine ooh-ing and aah-ing over a damn fish cake. It's such a delight to encounter a real chef. Incidentally the background music, at quite low volume, was traditional Japanese music with shamisen and shakuhachi and was a significant part of a very pleasant ambience, with the wood and bamboo trappings. Not kitsch and claptrap, mind you, but the traditional outfitting of Japanese kappo restaurants. Suzumaru (714) 665-1300, 17292 McFadden Ave. #B, Tustin, CA 92780 -- ///--- |
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On Jun 20, 6:01 pm, Gerry wrote:
Suzumaru (714) 665-1300, 17292 McFadden Ave. #B, Tustin, CA 92780 It sounds like a place I'd like to enjoy, Gerry. The next time I'm in El Segundo on business, it looks like the 30 or so miles may be well worth it. Would you be so kind as to tell me the most practical route from El Segundo to it from a locals experience? In that area, I sometimes pick the worst route and end up sitting in traffic for hours. Especially during the dinner hour. |
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Gerry wrote:
Thought the following might be of note. I'm surprised I didn't even think to post it here. Don't tell the roll-hogs about it! Quiet Treasure, Around Back, Hidden June 8, 2007 Dinner: Kappo Suzumaru in Tustin We stopped by Suzumaru about 6 years ago, and found just a basic suburban sushi bar. All-anglo clientele, a roll-dominated place that had nothing but die-hard loyalists eating there 500th order of same-ol'-same. We heard it had changed hands and was favorably mentioned in the past few years. But we forgot. It's really not the kind of place you'd expect a decent Japanese place to be despite the fact that within 3 blocks you have Wasabi, an omakase-only sushi bar, and Yoshino, which can always be counted on for quality. Still, behind McClure's, next to a decrepit Indian joint and across the street from a bat-cave of dense Latino housing? It's not where I troll for kaiseki. We tried Suzumaru a couple of weeks back, and I was offended when they put us at a table despite the fact that the sushi bar had not a single customer. Many tables were occupied, but I felt kinda diss'ed. Then, while sullen, Nancy made her move and got all her favorites and the dishes were large. While we ate, a large retinue appeared and were seated at the bar. It was some pre-arranged party. So completely full, we left an hour later and all I'd had was tofu and seaweed salad. For me, this wasn't optimum. But clearly Nancy was eager to get back. Her eyes unclouded by miff-dom, she thought the place felt more like a Japanese restaurant than any we've encountered outside Japan. Reticent. I acquiesced. There were again many tables occupied and again no one at the counter. We pressed for the sushi bar and after getting the okay from the sushi chef we were seated. I glanced at the drink menu and remembered that they have an unusually diverse sake menu. After a sake-tasting the previous day I was really hungry to compare these to one of my favorites, Hananomai. Happily they actually had it. Sadly it came only in a 35-dollar 720 ml bottle. The hell with it, I said, and we ordered it. I felt so reckless. It tasted great. I noticed whole scallops in the refrigerated bays so we got them sashimi and they were very good indeed. The itamae mentioned proudly that they were from Japan. They were excellent, but something notable was on both sides of the scallops; seaweed that neither of us had seen before. One was transparent and very crunchy, the other pale green and had a lot of personality for a seaweed: a notably sharp herbal taste though not bitter. "Different" seaweed? That's impressive. We perused one small wall-menu where a few cooked items were listed in English; baked shell-fish and such. But the bulk of the larger marker-board menu was in Japanese only. I could glean "fresh" toro, octopus, aji and other sashimi selections. But there was just too much kanji for me to read the rest. When he came for our next order, we said that could read a few but wanted to know the others. "Ano...", he stalled, "that's food that Japanese eat." We asked him to pick a few but he seemed reticent. We pushed hard and said we had eaten lots of Japanese food and only disliked natto. He still seemed a bit timid, and I thought I was going to have really muscle the guy by making him read out the whole menu. In retrospect I think maybe he was just lost in thought. Finally he issued a few dictates and off his wife and the waitress went. First we received "sakura ebi" or "Cherry Blossom sweet-shrimp". These were very small whole shrimp, maybe a half-inch long, eyes and legs and all, and a very bright pink. They had been lightly boiled, it seemed, and were in a parfait glass on two new kinds of seaweed. A few super-fine strands of crimson-red dried chili pepper were on top. To the side was a mayonnaise with a light red powder on top. It was fabulous. They explained everything we asked about, which was plenty. These shrimp were from his home prefecture of Shizuoka and only one shop in all of the USA had these and it was his shop. His brother ran a fish import place and he always got the very best of the very best. Next they brought us micro-sardines with strands of a very mild shallot mixed in a small bowl. There was also miyogo, which is ginger flower. It was really tasty. Clearly I wanted to be this man's best friend and so I asked if he drank sake. He said no, but his wife was glad to take up the slack. We introduced ourselves: She is Mamiko and he is Koz, possibly short for Kazuya. We began chatting about all things Japanese. He has a large HD TV dead-center behind the counter. It's played what appeared to be Japanese television, with the sound down. So periodically we'd discuss an onsen or site of natural beauty that might pop up. He was quite hospitable. Koz-san has owned and run the place for some 6 years, apparently buying it about 20 minutes after we visited the previous installation. He had concluded work at Benihana in Newport Beach for the prior 15 years. Before that apparently had a restaurant of his own for a few years in City of Industry where it was apparently "very hard". Mamiko's English is excellent and his English is fine but it does take a moment each time to start up. He starts his sentences and sprinkles them literally with "ano" which is a buffer word like "well..." or a more modern "like...". They asked Nancy if we liked tofu, but before I could clap a hand over her mouth they were off and running. Underscoring that their tofu was made in-house, they brought us each a little bowl of tofu with myriad other things, nori, salmon roe, what looked to be sturgeon roe (caviar), some small mushrooms I haven't seen before, and some other stuff. We mixed it up real good and I have to say it was just fabulous. We got a grilled fish cake that was just plain amazing. I assume it was produced in-house, and was great tasting as a fish cake but it also had some kind of savory sauce that made it, as Nancy said, about the best fish cake we've ever had. Imagine ooh-ing and aah-ing over a damn fish cake. It's such a delight to encounter a real chef. Incidentally the background music, at quite low volume, was traditional Japanese music with shamisen and shakuhachi and was a significant part of a very pleasant ambience, with the wood and bamboo trappings. Not kitsch and claptrap, mind you, but the traditional outfitting of Japanese kappo restaurants. Suzumaru (714) 665-1300, 17292 McFadden Ave. #B, Tustin, CA 92780 That a great review, Gerry, do you mind if I put it up on the sushi-ya-pedia? In case you don't know what that is, : http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiyapedia/ I would be happy to remove any references to your name if you want, or you can put it up there yourself however you would like... Warren -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On 2007-06-21 14:28:54 -0700, warren ransom said:
That a great review, Gerry, do you mind if I put it up on the sushi-ya-pedia? In case you don't know what that is, : http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiyapedia/ I would be happy to remove any references to your name if you want, or you can put it up there yourself however you would like... I think I'll edit it again, for the now-blatant typos and mis-steps. I'll attempt to upload it myself. Thanks for asking. Established a log-in and see immediately the utility of the thing. I'd think all the sushi folk on this usenet group would have left their imprint here. But California has not an entry yet? I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, once I figure out what the default format is... Thanks again. -- ///--- |
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On 2007-06-21 04:14:30 -0700, John Doe said:
On Jun 20, 6:01 pm, Gerry wrote: Suzumaru (714) 665-1300, 17292 McFadden Ave. #B, Tustin, CA 92780 It sounds like a place I'd like to enjoy, Gerry. The next time I'm in El Segundo on business, it looks like the 30 or so miles may be well worth it. Would you be so kind as to tell me the most practical route from El Segundo to it from a locals experience? In that area, I sometimes pick the worst route and end up sitting in traffic for hours. Especially during the dinner hour. Well I just eyeballed mapquest, which you might want to print, and they do a pretty good job: i405 to i5. i5 to Newport Ave. exit. Turn right and go down 3 or 4 blocks. Right on McFadden, where McClure's is on the corner. Turn into the parking lot on the left, however you can If you see the "Taco Factory" on the right, you went one block too far, just take a right and go around back. Or you could just get a taco, they are good! Suzumaru is on the backside of the same strip as McClure's. Let me know if and when you're gonna do it. I might be able to join you. My email is this without the z's and x's: muxsiczz99 at adxelpzia with the final node being "net". -- ///--- |
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Gerry wrote:
On 2007-06-21 14:28:54 -0700, warren ransom said: That a great review, Gerry, do you mind if I put it up on the sushi-ya-pedia? In case you don't know what that is, : http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiyapedia/ I would be happy to remove any references to your name if you want, or you can put it up there yourself however you would like... I think I'll edit it again, for the now-blatant typos and mis-steps. I'll attempt to upload it myself. Thanks for asking. Established a log-in and see immediately the utility of the thing. I'd think all the sushi folk on this usenet group would have left their imprint here. But California has not an entry yet? I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, once I figure out what the default format is... Thanks again. Yep... I haven't gotten to California yet. I just started a few days ago, and while adding Alabama and Alaska weren't too hard, the 590 New York restaurants took me over 5 hours of transcribing, and the 2,000+ in California are going to take me a lot longer, but that's my next mission I should probably add all state templates tho, to make it easier for everyone. I was hoping for a better response, but only a few people have tried so far... hopefully it just takes time, but I think it could turn into a great resource if it catches on. Thanks for jumping on the bandwagon tho ![]() Warren http://www.sushifaq.com |
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On 2007-06-21 16:49:34 -0700, Warren Ransom said:
Established a log-in and see immediately the utility of the thing. I'd think all the sushi folk on this usenet group would have left their imprint here. But California has not an entry yet? I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, once I figure out what the default format is... Yep... I haven't gotten to California yet. I just started a few days ago, and while adding Alabama and Alaska weren't too hard, the 590 New York restaurants took me over 5 hours of transcribing, and the 2,000+ in California are going to take me a lot longer, but that's my next mission ![]() That's a hell of mission. You're just culling various sites that have been, at one time or other, on the internet? I've found many of those, over the past decade have sorta vanished. I should probably add all state templates tho, to make it easier for everyone. If you have templates to add to California, go for that next, so I'll know what the heck I'm doing when I get there. I was hoping for a better response, but only a few people have tried so far... hopefully it just takes time, but I think it could turn into a great resource if it catches on. Of course. And also you have to spam the thing where it's not wanted, make it part of your sig file and all the rest... Thanks for jumping on the bandwagon tho ![]() Right now it appears I'm lumbering around behind it. -- ///--- |
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Gerry wrote:
On 2007-06-21 16:49:34 -0700, Warren Ransom said: Established a log-in and see immediately the utility of the thing. I'd think all the sushi folk on this usenet group would have left their imprint here. But California has not an entry yet? I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, once I figure out what the default format is... Yep... I haven't gotten to California yet. I just started a few days ago, and while adding Alabama and Alaska weren't too hard, the 590 New York restaurants took me over 5 hours of transcribing, and the 2,000+ in California are going to take me a lot longer, but that's my next mission ![]() That's a hell of mission. You're just culling various sites that have been, at one time or other, on the internet? I've found many of those, over the past decade have sorta vanished. I kow, but it's actually not that bad. I'm pulling data 10 restaurants at a time from the yellow pages service, slow and annoying, but much more efficient than trying to find references to them on other sites. I should probably add all state templates tho, to make it easier for everyone. If you have templates to add to California, go for that next, so I'll know what the heck I'm doing when I get there. the state portion is there, I'll add one restaurant so you can see how the link is set up, as well as how the restaurant pages are set up... I was hoping for a better response, but only a few people have tried so far... hopefully it just takes time, but I think it could turn into a great resource if it catches on. Of course. And also you have to spam the thing where it's not wanted, make it part of your sig file and all the rest... You're right about that... I've got some sort of moral block that makes me even feel weird about mentioning the website in email and posts, but I have to get over that because it's stupid. Marketing is marketing, eh? Thanks for jumping on the bandwagon tho ![]() Right now it appears I'm lumbering around behind it. Sounds great too, grab a hard cider and do your best to leap aboard ![]() Cheers, Warren |
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warren ransom wrote: That a great review, Gerry, do you mind if I put it up on the sushi-ya-pedia? In case you don't know what that is, : http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiyapedia/ I'm seriously amused by the fact that it uses "ContentLink[tm]" and the word "Sushi" pops up an ad for eBay. Seth |
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Seth wrote:
In article , warren ransom wrote: That a great review, Gerry, do you mind if I put it up on the sushi-ya-pedia? In case you don't know what that is, : http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiyapedia/ I'm seriously amused by the fact that it uses "ContentLink[tm]" and the word "Sushi" pops up an ad for eBay. Seth gone..... Just trying to recoup some of my hosting costs, but it is kind of annoying, you're right. And the last thing I need trying to get this off the ground is to drive people away ![]() |
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On 2007-06-21 20:06:06 -0700, Warren Ransom said:
Gerry wrote: On 2007-06-21 16:49:34 -0700, Warren Ransom said: Established a log-in and see immediately the utility of the thing. I'd think all the sushi folk on this usenet group would have left their imprint here. But California has not an entry yet? I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, once I figure out what the default format is... Yep... I haven't gotten to California yet. I just started a few days ago, and while adding Alabama and Alaska weren't too hard, the 590 New York restaurants took me over 5 hours of transcribing, and the 2,000+ in California are going to take me a lot longer, but that's my next mission ![]() That's a hell of mission. You're just culling various sites that have been, at one time or other, on the internet? I've found many of those, over the past decade have sorta vanished. I kow, but it's actually not that bad. I'm pulling data 10 restaurants at a time from the yellow pages service, slow and annoying, but much more efficient than trying to find references to them on other sites. Dang! Well, it's good to have hobbies. I should probably add all state templates tho, to make it easier for everyone. If you have templates to add to California, go for that next, so I'll know what the heck I'm doing when I get there. the state portion is there, I'll add one restaurant so you can see how the link is set up, as well as how the restaurant pages are set up... I was hoping for a better response, but only a few people have tried so far... hopefully it just takes time, but I think it could turn into a great resource if it catches on. Of course. And also you have to spam the thing where it's not wanted, make it part of your sig file and all the rest... You're right about that... I've got some sort of moral block that makes me even feel weird about mentioning the website in email and posts, but I have to get over that because it's stupid. Marketing is marketing, eh? Whether commercial or otherwise, I prefer to think of it as PR. And PR is certainly PR. Thanks for jumping on the bandwagon tho ![]() Right now it appears I'm lumbering around behind it. Sounds great too, grab a hard cider and do your best to leap aboard ![]() -- ///--- |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:34:34 -0700, Gerry
wrote: On 2007-06-21 04:14:30 -0700, John Doe said: On Jun 20, 6:01 pm, Gerry wrote: Suzumaru (714) 665-1300, 17292 McFadden Ave. #B, Tustin, CA 92780 It sounds like a place I'd like to enjoy, Gerry. The next time I'm in El Segundo on business, it looks like the 30 or so miles may be well worth it. Would you be so kind as to tell me the most practical route from El Segundo to it from a locals experience? In that area, I sometimes pick the worst route and end up sitting in traffic for hours. Especially during the dinner hour. Well I just eyeballed mapquest, which you might want to print, and they do a pretty good job: i405 to i5. i5 to Newport Ave. exit. Turn right and go down 3 or 4 blocks. Right on McFadden, where McClure's is on the corner. Turn into the parking lot on the left, however you can If you see the "Taco Factory" on the right, you went one block too far, just take a right and go around back. Or you could just get a taco, they are good! Suzumaru is on the backside of the same strip as McClure's. Let me know if and when you're gonna do it. I might be able to join you. My email is this without the z's and x's: muxsiczz99 at adxelpzia with the final node being "net". Thank you Gerry. I'll do that. |
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Gerry wrote:
On 2007-06-21 20:06:06 -0700, Warren Ransom said: Gerry wrote: On 2007-06-21 16:49:34 -0700, Warren Ransom said: Established a log-in and see immediately the utility of the thing. I'd think all the sushi folk on this usenet group would have left their imprint here. But California has not an entry yet? I'll do my best to fill in the blanks, once I figure out what the default format is... Yep... I haven't gotten to California yet. I just started a few days ago, and while adding Alabama and Alaska weren't too hard, the 590 New York restaurants took me over 5 hours of transcribing, and the 2,000+ in California are going to take me a lot longer, but that's my next mission ![]() That's a hell of mission. You're just culling various sites that have been, at one time or other, on the internet? I've found many of those, over the past decade have sorta vanished. I kow, but it's actually not that bad. I'm pulling data 10 restaurants at a time from the yellow pages service, slow and annoying, but much more efficient than trying to find references to them on other sites. Dang! Well, it's good to have hobbies. I should probably add all state templates tho, to make it easier for everyone. If you have templates to add to California, go for that next, so I'll know what the heck I'm doing when I get there. the state portion is there, I'll add one restaurant so you can see how the link is set up, as well as how the restaurant pages are set up... I was hoping for a better response, but only a few people have tried so far... hopefully it just takes time, but I think it could turn into a great resource if it catches on. Of course. And also you have to spam the thing where it's not wanted, make it part of your sig file and all the rest... You're right about that... I've got some sort of moral block that makes me even feel weird about mentioning the website in email and posts, but I have to get over that because it's stupid. Marketing is marketing, eh? Whether commercial or otherwise, I prefer to think of it as PR. And PR is certainly PR. Thanks for jumping on the bandwagon tho ![]() Right now it appears I'm lumbering around behind it. Sounds great too, grab a hard cider and do your best to leap aboard ![]() Hey Gerry, sorry if I'm being a pest, but do you want me to put your modified review up on the 'pedia? -- -- http://www.sushifaq.com The Sushi FAQ http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiotaku The Sushi Otaku blog http://www.sushifaq.com/sushiyapedia The Sushi bar finder with reviews http://www.theteafaq.com The Tea FAQ -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On 2007-06-27 15:33:39 -0700, warren ransom
said: Hey Gerry, sorry if I'm being a pest, but do you want me to put your modified review up on the 'pedia? I wanted to edit some of the errors out, and also wanted to familarize myself with the process for the next pass. Is that okay? I have the sense that nobody is abandoning the site because of the lack of material.... yet! :-) -- ///--- |
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Gerry wrote:
On 2007-06-27 15:33:39 -0700, warren ransom said: Hey Gerry, sorry if I'm being a pest, but do you want me to put your modified review up on the 'pedia? I wanted to edit some of the errors out, and also wanted to familarize myself with the process for the next pass. Is that okay? I have the sense that nobody is abandoning the site because of the lack of material.... yet! :-) It's totally OK, I wasn't trying to pressure you, I just wasn't sure if you gave up or just hadn't gotten to it yet. I'm surprised, though, I'm getting over 100 hits per day already, too bad I haven't had time to populate many of the states. If this is any indication of future traffic, I'm pretty psyched...... |