In the US, according to Hamelman, they are called "rye chops"; in Germany,
they are sold as "Schrott".

And in Australia?

Is there such an animal (or something close)?

Felix Karpfen

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Felix Karpfen wrote:
In the US, according to Hamelman, they are called "rye chops"; in Germany,
they are sold as "Schrott".

And in Australia?

Is there such an animal (or something close)?

Felix Karpfen


schrott in german means "trash", what you're meaning is more likely
"schrot" which is coarse grain...

*giggling*

Felix Karpfen wrote:
In the US, according to Hamelman, they are called "rye chops"; in Germany,
they are sold as "Schrott".

FYI:

Schrott = scrap metal (most common use)
in other language uses, can be many things - scrap, damaged-, unusable
things, wrecked cars, equipment etc.

Scrot = granulated things amongst many besides grain related are lead
shot, pea gravel

Schrott in connection with rye and grains is incorrect unless it's
totally wasted stuff and even then it would be a stretch

And in Australia?

Is there such an animal (or something close)?

Felix Karpfen

acd wrote:
Felix Karpfen wrote:

In the US, according to Hamelman, they are called "rye chops"; in
Germany,
they are sold as "Schrott".

And in Australia?

Is there such an animal (or something close)?

Felix Karpfen


schrott in german means "trash",

That's a wide stretch and actually incorrect.

trash meaning is along garbage, waste, refuse
Müll, Abfall, Unrat

what you're meaning is more likely
"schrot" which is coarse grain...

Schrot, noun - to be capitalized


*giggling*

Ah - I see...

Felix, in Australia there are only two kinds of rye grain based bakery
ingredient:
Whole rye meal and rye flours( light and dark).
IIRC It is manufactured by Weston Milling and Allied MIlls of
Australia.
If you are looking for coarser rye bsaed product then the rye meal is
the way to go.
The rye meal in Australia is somewhat coarser than the tye meal
elsewhere. Maybe that is a satisfactory substitute for Hamelguy's rye
chops.
I just don't know if you can buy rye meal from grocery shops... Better
contact your friendly baker maybe he can sell you in small quantities
.....Select those bakeries making sourdough and its defininte they have
that material. I know.... many of those artisan bakers in Australia
refresh their starters more often with rye meal.
Roy

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:58:22 -0700, Roy wrote
s.com):

The rye meal in Australia is somewhat coarser than the tye meal
elsewhere. Maybe that is a satisfactory substitute for Hamelguy's rye
chops.

Thank you.

Rye meal scores an entry on the same page as "Schrott" (Hamelman p.48).
It is not the same and may respond differently to the recommended
"Soaker" routine. But I guess beggars cannot be choosers.

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Felix Karpfen

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Felix Karpfen wrote:

Rye meal scores an entry on the same page as "Schrott" (Hamelman p.48).

Even Hamelman won't be able to convert the rye grain product in question
to scrap metal. Regrettable, it's a typo, see:

http://dict.leo.org/se?lp=ende&p=tLMk.&search=Schrott
http://dict.leo.org/se?lp=ende&p=tLMk.&search=Schrot


It is not the same and may respond differently to the recommended
"Soaker" routine. But I guess beggars cannot be choosers.

Theorizing about it has it's limited value. Trying what comes out of it
and them make adjustments to your liking is what eventually counts.

Samartha


-
Felix Karpfen

Rye meal scores an entry on the same page as "Schrott" (Hamelman p.48).
It is not the same and may respond differently to the recommended
"Soaker" routine. But I guess beggars cannot be choosers.



If you want a coarser grist....Perhaps you can chop rye grains in a
food processor so that yuo will have a material suited for the soaker
routine
Roy

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:09:36 -0600, Samartha Deva wrote
ountainbitwarrior.com):

Felix Karpfen wrote:

Rye meal scores an entry on the same page as "Schrott" (Hamelman p.48).
It is not the same and may respond differently to the recommended
"Soaker" routine. But I guess beggars cannot be choosers.

Theorizing about it has it's limited value. Trying what comes out of it
and them make adjustments to your liking is what eventually counts.

It helps when you know where to start.

Another "thank you" to Roy.

Felix

PS: In case I appear ungrateful for your current advice, I have benefited
greatly from your previous suggestions. My sourdough rye breads are
now very edible.
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