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Old 20-06-2005, 02:11 AM
danw4
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howdy all, been camping across America for the last month. finally got to
set up my newsreader on the laptop to catch up on the group. i have a
question in regards to baking bread while on the road, esp. camping.

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when i
get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.

thx in advance

dan w


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Old 20-06-2005, 12:11 PM
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danw4 wrote the following on 6/19/2005 9:11 PM:

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping?


I've made flatbreads in a frying pan over a grill.

Karen R.
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Old 20-06-2005, 01:31 PM
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"danw4" wrote in message =
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@t eranews...

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq,=20
or something else that works camping?=20


For the most historically-correct experience, one needs a Dutch=20
oven, which will be buried in coals for the bread cooking.

Particularly today, the best camping requires some back packing.
Packing a proper Dutch oven can substantially improve one's=20
posture and self determination.

Group-google "Dutch oven" at rec.food.sourdough, limited to
1995 & earlier, for more than I suspect you'll want to know. In=20
particular, read what David Adams (no relation to me) has to
say. See also Carl Griffith's posts about Dutch oven at r.f.s.

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DickA
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Old 20-06-2005, 08:57 PM
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"danw4" wrote in
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@t eranews:

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or
something else that works camping? i have had some success, and will
post pics when i get home, however would appreciate any help for
future trips.

thx in advance

dan w


If you have a fry pan or griddle (the "camper" who has neither does not
care much about bread) you can make fabulous sourdough English muffins.

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Old 21-06-2005, 06:34 AM
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"danw4" wrote in message
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@t eranews...
howdy all, been camping across America for the last month. finally got to
set up my newsreader on the laptop to catch up on the group. i have a
question in regards to baking bread while on the road, esp. camping.

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when

i
get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.

thx in advance

dan w



Been wondering about the grill myself. Looking forward to your pics.

hutch


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Old 21-06-2005, 02:11 PM
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"hutchndi" wrote in message =
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"danw4" wrote in message
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has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or =

something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post =

pics when
i get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.


Been wondering about the grill myself. Looking forward to your pics.


Good luck on the pics. My bet is that some one who cannot find the=20
caps key is not going to be able to find the buttons on a camera.

Hey, maybe there is a bread machine operable from a car battery, or
an appropriate converter.

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Dicky

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Old 21-06-2005, 03:21 PM
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"Dick Adams" wrote in
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Good luck on the pics. My bet is that some one who cannot find the
caps key is not going to be able to find the buttons on a camera.

Hey, maybe there is a bread machine operable from a car battery, or
an appropriate converter.

--
Dicky



Advanced Auto Parts has a sale on 400 Watt converters for $29. Lukily,
there is no keyboard on it.

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Old 22-06-2005, 05:37 PM
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danw4 wrote:
howdy all, been camping across America for the last month. finally got to
set up my newsreader on the laptop to catch up on the group. i have a
question in regards to baking bread while on the road, esp. camping.

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when i
get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.


For camp baking, a Dutch oven is one way to go. An 8 inch is suitable
for one person and is small and fairly light. A 10 inch is suitable
for two people, but obviously is a little larger and heavier. Neither
would be suitable for backpacking. Another reply mentioned burying
the oven in coals. That's not really necessary, all that's needed is
the right amount of coals arranged evenly under the oven and on the
lid. Here's a link to a page in my personal collection of web pages
with photos of a Dutch oven being used for camp cooking...

http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/dutch_oven

It's a work in progress, and currently there's only photos of biscuit
and cornbread making. Both are really easy. Beer Bread is also easy
to make. Baking real loaf bread in a Dutch oven is a little more
challenging, but it can be done.

Rich













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Old 22-06-2005, 07:15 PM
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Hello Dan & all;

"danw4" wrote in message
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@t eranews...
howdy all, been camping across America for the last month. finally got to
set up my newsreader on the laptop to catch up on the group. i have a
question in regards to baking bread while on the road, esp. camping.

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when
i get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.

I frequently bake on our various "camping" trips (if one can call it that
living in a trailer). I've used everything from flat pans like Ken had
mentioned, to BBQ's, to doing SD pizza on top of a grill. However, my best
results came from taking a few days to build a mud & stone "oven" in the
pioneer style (if local materials are available and such activity is
permitted).

Although temperature control is a bit 'iffy', it doesn't take long to get
the hang of it (esp. when one takes along an oven thermometer...(:-o)!).
Trust me, there's nothing that'll draw a crowd faster than the smell of
fresh SD bread or cinnamon rolls baking...


Later all,
Dusty
San Jose


thx in advance

dan w



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Old 23-06-2005, 04:03 PM
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Then there is this ....

http://home.gwi.net/~nas/bread/recip...nkan_Bread.htm


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Old 24-06-2005, 08:29 PM
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I saw someone on the food network grill some flatbread the other day, and
pizza yesterday, no foil, or anything, just a fairly close grill (about an
inch).
go figure.

Look for "pan de campo" too, it works up pretty well.
gw


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Old 25-06-2005, 10:01 PM
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You don't need a mud oven or a dutch oven. All you need is a loaf pan
and a good weber kettle. Light the coals and let them ash over. Spread
them out and cook a hamburger or steak. Then, pile them up on both
sides of the kettle (like you would for "indirect" cooking). Then,
place your bread in the middle, between the two coal piles. It'll give
ya about 375 and will bake your bread just fine...I do it all the time.

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Old 26-06-2005, 04:31 PM
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doughwizard wrote:
You don't need a mud oven or a dutch oven. All you need is a loaf pan
and a good weber kettle.


A Smokey Joe, maybe...but I think it'd be pretty tough stuffing
a Weber Kettle into a backpack. :-)


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Old 04-07-2005, 12:11 AM
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danw4 wrote:
howdy all, been camping across America for the last month. finally got to
set up my newsreader on the laptop to catch up on the group. i have a
question in regards to baking bread while on the road, esp. camping.

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when i
get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.

thx in advance

dan w


I use a little device called the Bakepacker (www.bakepacker.com). It is
designed to fit in a standard cooking pot that is used with a single
burner camp stove. I have baked with it in the Boundary Waters in MN,
the coast of Nova Scotia, and all over the NE US when kayaking. I have
made everything from brownies (from scratch) to yeast dinner rolls with
it over the years. This year I will attempt sourdough using some dried
starter I am taking with me. Not quite the dutch oven I use when
camping under circumstances where weight isn't a concern but works quite
well.

Best Regards,
Mary
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Old 16-07-2005, 06:07 AM
dan w
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well we finally go back from our 9,000 mile camping trip. thanks for
all the suggestions, such as the following:

I've made flatbreads in a frying pan over a grill.
Karen R.


For the most historically-correct experience, one needs a Dutch
oven, which will be buried in coals for the bread cooking.
DickA


If you have a fry pan or griddle (the "camper" who has neither does not
care much about bread) you can make fabulous sourdough English muffins.
Gonorio Dineri


Been wondering about the grill myself. Looking forward to your pics.
hutch


Hey, maybe there is a bread machine operable from a car battery, or
an appropriate converter.
DickA


I frequently bake on our various "camping" trips (if one can call it
that living in a trailer). I've used everything from flat pans like
Ken had mentioned, to BBQ's, to doing SD pizza on top of a grill.
However, my best results came from taking a few days to build a mud &
stone "oven" in the pioneer style (if local materials are available

and such activity is permitted).
Dusty
San Jose


You don't need a mud oven or a dutch oven. All you need is a loaf pan
and a good weber kettle. Light the coals and let them ash over. Spread
them out and cook a hamburger or steak.
doughwizard


in response to all these, here is what i did. first my idea of camping
is more like "bring everything but the kitchen sink camping". we drag a
5'X 8' Pace trailer with tents, chairs, kitchen supplies, yada, yada,
yada... so equipment is not so much an issue, (yet probably should be).

anyway i did bring my favorite wf starter, and kept it in my cooler. i
made my dough at camp tempâ˜ș, using the go with the flow technique. here
is a link to the pics:
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...der_id=1397234

in my webber gas bbq i have a cast iron flat griddle that i sat the doug
on to bake. as you can see the biggest prob was getting too dark on the
bottom. unfortunately, no way with this bbq to do the "indirect heat
method", so i had to flip bread on it's top to cook more evenly toward
the end of the cook time. the bread came out very good most of the time.

one thing i did discover was the possible use of the electric roaster
oven. while visiting in-laws i baked every day at their home, and
because it was very hot and humid, they kicked me out of the house to
bake. mom-out-law had a GE roaster oven like the one in the pictures
above. the bread came out very good. nice crust, good oven spring, and
temp control. got me to thinking during the summer months, might be a
good alternative to heating up the house.

anyone else have experience using a oven roaster to bake bread? best
brand, etc.?

thx for all the help

happy baking

Dan w
 




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