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Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them
for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny |
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Ginny wrote:
Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. Mike |
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Ginny wrote:
Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. Mike |
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Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them
for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. It is very difficult ( if not impossible) to freeze the true sourdough and come out( as good) in the same way as normal yeast dough. The latter is viable for freezing because the typical frozen dough is laden with additives ranging from , enzymes , emulsifiers, oxidizing salts and mineral yeast foods. Those things you cannot add to a real sourdough. Another thing is the bakers yeast has more tolerance to freezing than the wild yeast strain that is very sensitive to cold temperature. In fact many of those freeze dried sourdough cultures have only the lactobacilli remaining mostly while most yeast are all dead. If what ever remains are already weakened by that cold shock and is incapable of its leavening function. IF you find a shop that is selling frozen unbaked sourdough roll,keep it in mind that it is not real sourdough but a normal yeast dough with added sourdough flavoring in it. Roy |
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Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them
for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. It is very difficult ( if not impossible) to freeze the true sourdough and come out( as good) in the same way as normal yeast dough. The latter is viable for freezing because the typical frozen dough is laden with additives ranging from , enzymes , emulsifiers, oxidizing salts and mineral yeast foods. Those things you cannot add to a real sourdough. Another thing is the bakers yeast has more tolerance to freezing than the wild yeast strain that is very sensitive to cold temperature. In fact many of those freeze dried sourdough cultures have only the lactobacilli remaining mostly while most yeast are all dead. If what ever remains are already weakened by that cold shock and is incapable of its leavening function. IF you find a shop that is selling frozen unbaked sourdough roll,keep it in mind that it is not real sourdough but a normal yeast dough with added sourdough flavoring in it. Roy |
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There is a way to get around the problem of freezing sourdough. You can go
ahead and make your sourdough rolls, but instead of freezing the dough you can par-bake them. Bake them until they have just a hint of color then let them cool, place them in freezer bags, and throw into the freezer. Just be sure the rolls are baked all the way through before freezing. They should last 2 months. When you're ready to eat them just pull them from the freezer, thaw, and finish baking to your desired color. Trevor "Roy Basan" wrote in message om... Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. It is very difficult ( if not impossible) to freeze the true sourdough and come out( as good) in the same way as normal yeast dough. The latter is viable for freezing because the typical frozen dough is laden with additives ranging from , enzymes , emulsifiers, oxidizing salts and mineral yeast foods. Those things you cannot add to a real sourdough. Another thing is the bakers yeast has more tolerance to freezing than the wild yeast strain that is very sensitive to cold temperature. In fact many of those freeze dried sourdough cultures have only the lactobacilli remaining mostly while most yeast are all dead. If what ever remains are already weakened by that cold shock and is incapable of its leavening function. IF you find a shop that is selling frozen unbaked sourdough roll,keep it in mind that it is not real sourdough but a normal yeast dough with added sourdough flavoring in it. Roy |
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There is a way to get around the problem of freezing sourdough. You can go
ahead and make your sourdough rolls, but instead of freezing the dough you can par-bake them. Bake them until they have just a hint of color then let them cool, place them in freezer bags, and throw into the freezer. Just be sure the rolls are baked all the way through before freezing. They should last 2 months. When you're ready to eat them just pull them from the freezer, thaw, and finish baking to your desired color. Trevor "Roy Basan" wrote in message om... Would appreciate a recipe for making rolls, shaping them and freezing them for baking later? I found one that only freezes for 1 week. I'd like one for at least 2 months I'd like one like "Rodes brand" has in the stores that are already to be unthawed and baked. Thanks Ginny Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. It is very difficult ( if not impossible) to freeze the true sourdough and come out( as good) in the same way as normal yeast dough. The latter is viable for freezing because the typical frozen dough is laden with additives ranging from , enzymes , emulsifiers, oxidizing salts and mineral yeast foods. Those things you cannot add to a real sourdough. Another thing is the bakers yeast has more tolerance to freezing than the wild yeast strain that is very sensitive to cold temperature. In fact many of those freeze dried sourdough cultures have only the lactobacilli remaining mostly while most yeast are all dead. If what ever remains are already weakened by that cold shock and is incapable of its leavening function. IF you find a shop that is selling frozen unbaked sourdough roll,keep it in mind that it is not real sourdough but a normal yeast dough with added sourdough flavoring in it. Roy |
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:41:30 -0600, Mike Avery wrote:
Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. Mike Is it not possible to freeze sourdough? Thanks / JB |
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:41:30 -0600, Mike Avery wrote:
Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. Mike Is it not possible to freeze sourdough? Thanks / JB |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:28:20 +0200, J Boehm
wrote: On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:41:30 -0600, Mike Avery wrote: Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. Mike Is it not possible to freeze sourdough? Thanks / JB Howdy, Of course it is... If the bread is baked (or has already been suggested to you, partially baked.) Others have explained that freezing the "unbaked" sourdough is likely to kill off so much of its yeast that the dough will not rise properly. All that said, you might just give it a try. Nothing is likely to explode. All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:28:20 +0200, J Boehm
wrote: On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:41:30 -0600, Mike Avery wrote: Commercial products like that use a LOT of extra yeast to compensate for the amount of yeast that will die in the freezer. I'm not at all sure how to handle that with sourdough. Mike Is it not possible to freeze sourdough? Thanks / JB Howdy, Of course it is... If the bread is baked (or has already been suggested to you, partially baked.) Others have explained that freezing the "unbaked" sourdough is likely to kill off so much of its yeast that the dough will not rise properly. All that said, you might just give it a try. Nothing is likely to explode. All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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