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I have this recipe for a loaf of sourdough bread and it has an odd
request. After the you let it raise the first time you press it out and sprinkle a 1/4 teaspoon of yeast onto the surface of the bread dough. Then you roll it up into your bread shape. After it has doubled in size you can bake it off. Any thoughts on this unique method? Ron |
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Railfanner wrote:
I have this recipe for a loaf of sourdough bread and it has an odd request. After the you let it raise the first time you press it out and sprinkle a 1/4 teaspoon of yeast onto the surface of the bread dough. Then you roll it up into your bread shape. After it has doubled in size you can bake it off. Any thoughts on this unique method? Ron ______ Did you try it - does it work? Is there a difference in taste between using the yeast and not? That could be a basis for a discussion. And - "sourdough bread", what is that - what are you talking about? Sam |
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On 30 Mar, 19:22, Railfanner wrote:
I have this recipe for a loaf of sourdough bread and it has an odd request. *After the you let it raise the first time you press it out and sprinkle a 1/4 teaspoon of yeast onto the surface of the bread dough. *Then you roll it up into your bread shape. *After it has doubled in size you can bake it off. *Any thoughts on this unique method? * Ron Ron, don't take recipes from nuts who have made one loaf and think they're qualified to write a recipe and publish it on a website. There's some great bakers about but you have to be discerning. If you want to make yeasted bread use yeast, if you want to make sourdough use a sourdough starter, if you want to make hybrid bread then use both. The choice is yours but that method is nuts. check out. Mike Avery's Samartha Deva's Carl's (Griffith) Friends (My recipe is there too) Jim |
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Railfanner wrote:
I have this recipe for a loaf of sourdough bread and it has an odd request. After the you let it raise the first time you press it out and sprinkle a 1/4 teaspoon of yeast onto the surface of the bread dough. Then you roll it up into your bread shape. After it has doubled in size you can bake it off. Any thoughts on this unique method? Ron I see lots of recipes that call for both yeasts. I think it has to do with speeding up the final rise to make it more predictable. Lots of the breads with mixed yeasts I have tried work out nice too. The roll method you describe would likely be aiming to get holes in the bread. Those concentrated points of unmixed yeast should grow a CO2 bubble I would guess. Did you try it? Mike Some bread photos: http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com |
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Probably better not to answer peoples questions with guesses Mike,
there's plenty of knowledgeable people here who can give real answers or maybe you're such a good guesser Mike that you always get the right answer so making your contribution worth listening to. If so maybe you take up a column in "Journal of Applied Physics" or "The American Journal of Theology". Jim On 1 Apr, 23:39, Mike Romain wrote: The roll method you describe would likely be aiming to get holes in the bread. *Those concentrated points of unmixed yeast should grow a CO2 bubble I would guess. Did you try it? Mike Some bread photos:http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com |
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TG wrote:
maybe you're such a good guesser Mike that you always get the right answer so making your contribution worth listening to. Yup, my guesses hit the mark more often than not, unlike your guesses that are so far off in left field as to be incomprehensible most days. And 'yes' I can prove that because Google saves all your BS, but fighting with unarmed person isn't really worth it. Mike Some bread photos:http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com |
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What are you talking about Mike?
Which bit about 'answering questions with a guess is pointless' didn't you understand? You talk about 'an unarmed person'. I think you're talking about yourself. You should add clueless to that too. If you're going to accuse me of guessing and talking Bull Shit at peoples answers and say 'I can prove that', then you'd better prove it. But you won't win Mike, since that's what you seem to be trying to do. I'm not interested in 'winning' so I can't 'lose'. Everything is just a problem to be solved, you solve it or I solve it I don't care, it gets solved, I'm up. Jim On 2 Apr, 15:48, Mike Romain wrote: Yup, my guesses hit the mark more often than not, unlike your guesses that are so far off in left field as to be incomprehensible most days. And 'yes' I can prove that because Google saves all your BS, but fighting with unarmed person isn't really worth it. Mike |
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TG wrote:
What are you talking about Mike? Which bit about 'answering questions with a guess is pointless' didn't you understand? What part of "who the fuc! do you think you are to tell me what to do" do you not get? Who died and made you God? All you have ever done is get on some mythical high and mighty horse and pick at every one of my posts, most of which were done when you were 'obviously' ****ed out of your skull or just plain in another plane of existence because nothing you typed made any sense in any context. My 'educated' guess to the OP was quite correct and I say 'educated' because I 'have' used the recipes that call for a hybrid mix of commercial and Sourdough yeasts with good success. Even when making Viince's bread recipe and French stick method with mixed yeasts. Have you? Based on that experience, I would 'guess' that rolling up undesolved yeast like mentioned in a jellyroll way, would likely make the big holes folks look for in their 'rustic' Sourdough bread rather than interfere or add to the rise of the sourdough itself as Viince's method does. Mike Some bread photos: http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com |
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I'll take that to mean you couldn't prove it then Mike. You know
taking off the 'k' doesn't alter that fact that you typed '****' Mike. Nobody is going to be having to guess at that cryptic message. It's funny how you can't type '****' without trying to disguise it but you are happy to try to slander me. I don't care Mike, I don't think having a drink is a big deal. I wasn't drinking anything but PG Tips tea at the time as I am now though Mike, not that it would be a problem if I were having a large Brandy. It's not illegal or immoral. But you do seem to have a problem with it. You also seem to have a problem understanding simple English Mike if you think I must have been on some other plane when I wrote that. Oh well, it will come to you if you keep trying. Jim TG wrote: If you're going to accuse me of guessing and talking Bull Shit at peoples answers and say 'I can prove that', then you'd better prove it. On 3 Apr, 15:31, Mike Romain wrote: What part of "who the fuc! do you think you are to tell me what to do" do you not get? .... Based on that experience, I would 'guess' that rolling up undesolved yeast like mentioned in a jellyroll way, would likely make the big holes folks look for in their 'rustic' Sourdough bread rather than interfere or add to the rise of the sourdough itself as Viince's method does. Mike |
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For those who wonder what Actually happens when you roll yeast into
your bread, here is the answer: Absolutely nothing. http://picasaweb.google.com/cacaprou...57896388558066 Such a waste of my time. All you get is a normal loaf of bread with raw bits of yeast in the middle. Just shows us: The internet is full of information, lots of great information, and LOADS of rubbish ![]() |
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Hi Vincent,
nice to hear from you, hope all is well at the bakery. Thanks for posting that photo, unfortunately I think those that think rolling yeast into a dough is a good idea would probably be proud of that loaf. : -) Cheers Vincent, Jim On 4 Apr, 00:33, viince wrote: For those who wonder what Actually happens when you roll yeast into your bread, here is the answer: Absolutely nothing. http://picasaweb.google.com/cacaprou...to#51851578963... Such a waste of my time. All you get is a normal loaf of bread with raw bits of yeast in the middle. Just shows us: The internet is full of information, lots of great information, and LOADS of rubbish ![]() |
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viince wrote:
For those who wonder what Actually happens when you roll yeast into your bread, here is the answer: Absolutely nothing. http://picasaweb.google.com/cacaprou...57896388558066 Such a waste of my time. All you get is a normal loaf of bread with raw bits of yeast in the middle. Just shows us: The internet is full of information, lots of great information, and LOADS of rubbish ![]() I was wondering about that. Too much yeast doesn't make for a good tasting loaf either usually. Thanks for taking the time to try it, saves me from experimenting. Mike Some bread photos: http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com |
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Terrible texture, bad yeast taste, not dissolved yeast particles.
Yep, that is what I got AND why I asked you your opinions. I was wondering if it was my technique -- or lack there of. Thanks for the confirmation. As for the recipe -- where is my paper shredder? Ron |
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Railfanner wrote:
Terrible texture, bad yeast taste, not dissolved yeast particles. Yep, that is what I got AND why I asked you your opinions. I was wondering if it was my technique -- or lack there of. Thanks for the confirmation. As for the recipe -- where is my paper shredder? Ron Thanks for testing & posting. Now it gets interesting: From where did you get the recipe? Sam |