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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:21:42 -0400, Kenneth
wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:41:50 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:35:55 -0400, Kenneth wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:55:25 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: Kosher salt may have a chemical agent in it to help it flow. Hi Boron, In what sense do you mean "may?" Do you mean that it is "allowed" to, or "sometimes has" such an additive? I ask because I check the labels and buy only the Kosher salt that shows only "Salt" as its contents. All the best, It depends on who makes it. Kosher salt is titled that way because it is used for koshering meat. Morton's has sodium ferrocyanide as an anti-caking agent. Diamond Crystal doesn't Boron Hi Boron, That's why I'm a Diamond Crystal man... (I've been trying to cut back on my ferrocyanide compounds.) All the best, I am a big believer in iodized salt. I have known 2 people who developed goiters that could have been easily prevented with iodized salt. Now, I also have non-iodized salt in the house, but that is for nasal lavage. And I have various sea salts, too, mostly obtained through free or very cheap means. There are slightly different flavors/accents among them, based on mineral content and crystal size and grinder used. I do not use them for health reasons, but do so on taste or for the specific foods they might be sprinkled on. They can add a deliberately salty taste or a sparkly look. Recipes get plain old iodized table salt. Boron |
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Kenneth wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:55:25 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: Kosher salt may have a chemical agent in it to help it flow. Hi Boron, In what sense do you mean "may?" Do you mean that it is "allowed" to, or "sometimes has" such an additive? I ask because I check the labels and buy only the Kosher salt that shows only "Salt" as its contents. No need to capitalize "kosher." All salt, per se, is kosher. Kosher salt is a misnomer because the large crystals are used to adsorb blood from meat, therefore koshering it. These days, most kosher butchers perform that last step of preparation and it's not done at home as much. B/ |
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Dusty da baker wrote:
G'day "Trix" & all; that it is in lots of products in the grocery stores...at least it is in the U.S.. I am sure I get plenty of regular table salt when I eat at restaurants. When I have a choice at home I choose to use the more naturals salts. I used kosher salt for many years before switching to Likewise. I liked the flavor better without the iodine. It seemed "brighter". Well, that's the point of all these "gourmet" (actually the term is "epicurean" since "gourmet" is widely misused) salts. People say they can taste the "nuances" as if salt were wine. Then again, some people have taste buds that even dogs can't hear. B/ |
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Dick Adams wrote:
In the U.S., kids are taught in the 9th grade that potassium iodide is added to most table salt as a public-health measure to avoid goiter, a thyroid condition attributable to nutritional iodine deficiency. -- Dicky I guess being in the cold war era and all, my science teacher implied that it was a good idea to have enough iodine in your system to have the thyroid working properly so it doesn't actively seek out more which was a bonus to the health issue the additive was first used for. I never thought otherwise. Mike Some bread photos: http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com |
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Mike Romain wrote in
ng.com: Dick Adams wrote: In the U.S., kids are taught in the 9th grade that potassium iodide is added to most table salt as a public-health measure to avoid goiter, a thyroid condition attributable to nutritional iodine deficiency. -- Dicky I guess being in the cold war era and all, my science teacher implied that it was a good idea to have enough iodine in your system to have the thyroid working properly so it doesn't actively seek out more which was a bonus to the health issue the additive was first used for. I never thought otherwise. Mike Some bread photos: http://www.mikeromain.shutterfly.com Since I've been around for a goodly number of years, as a kid, I can remember seeing the bulging throats of women that had goiter. This before iodized salt became common. It has been many years since I have see anyone with a goiter. It appears that the addition was successful. |
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Hello Kenneth & all
"Kenneth" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:26:28 -0700, "Dusty da baker" wrote: They all came from the sea at one time or the other...with local, seasonal, millennial, or climatic driven variations being the only distinctions. Hi Dusty, Would I be incorrect to suggest that "sea salt" also has the remnants of, say, the past ten thousand years of human dumping, while mined salt does not? No, you would be quite correct. But, although correct, the amount of such "contamination" is pretty infinitesimal. Not that I'm recommending it, mind you, only that it's not the 'problem' it's so often made out to be. Fortunately for us, there is a rather large "dilution factor" at work...(:-o)! L8r all, Dusty .... |
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"Brian Mailman" wrote in message
... .... Likewise. I liked the flavor better without the iodine. It seemed "brighter". Well, that's the point of all these "gourmet" (actually the term is "epicurean" since "gourmet" is widely misused) salts. People say they can taste the "nuances" as if salt were wine. I don't know, Brian. As a long time wine, beer, and coffee taster (albeit still only semi-pro...(:-o)!), I can taste a lot of things to nuances most can't (or don't). I can taste the difference between regular, iodized table salt and the Kosher salt, only because the taste (by nose?) of the iodine is so intense. But I'll be darned it I've ever been able to taste the differences between that and any of the other salts. At least on me, they'd be wasted. As another poster has already posited, mostly those kinds of salts are sold to appeal to the vanity of the buyers. They think they're getting something better, rarer, that cut above...kinda like some folks have to have the biggest mixer or most accurate scale...(:-o)! ducking and running for cover... Then again, some people have taste buds that even dogs can't hear. Love that line! Thanks! L8r all, Dusty -- near Lake Stevens, Wa. today... .... |
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Since this thread has taken on a broad spectrum of subjects now less related to French
Baguettes I will address two posts with different subjects by different posters using the same thread: Dusty da baker said: The only thing that can be stored in a human "fat cell" is a molecule of sugar. This is quite wrong. If this were the case it would be called a sugar cell. It is not. Fat cells are composed of adipose tissue that is composed of proportions of monounsaturated and saturated fatty acids stearic acid lipoprotein and triglycerides all of which have very long chain molecules. Removing these cells require complex activities with enzymes and associated co-activators that are hormone sensitive. There is glucose in the presence of adipose tissue that is associated with the endogenous cannabinoid system of glucose uptake but it cannot be stated glucose [a saccharide] is the only thing stored in a 'fat cell'. Avoid radio talk show style half and whole untruths meant to empower the ignorant. The removal of adipose tissue, a constant topic in the western world, is given treatise in that timely tome of 1857 by Edmund Randolph Peaslee wherein he states [on page 808] sic Emaćiation may be induced by a prolonged discharge of any fluid containing a considerable proportion of fat. Hence profuse suppuration or hemorrhage, or excessive sexual indulgence, produces leanness, since pus, blood, and semen are rich in fat. Kenneth says: Would I be incorrect to suggest that [etc] I've tried the mined salt and perhaps it may avoid air and water pollution of recent [synthetic chemical compounds] history but it contains a generous amount of nature's diversity not related to salt. If you're not convinced of this take a half teaspoon of a popular type of this salt, "Real Salt" and dissolve it in a wine glass of hot water. At the bottom you will notice a lot of 'salt' that doesn't dissolve, this is the insoluble parts of mined salt. I would add that these adulterants make up a percentage of the weight you're paying for. I prefer the salt from sea water evaporated from clay lined ponds on the Île de Noirmoutier: http://en.aquasel.fr/ The clay adds mineral content not associated with the sea like iodine plus the sodium levels of this salt are lower than refined salt that may also contain anti-caking agents. If you think all salt taste the same it doesn't. For me the flavor and 'feel' of this particular salt is nonpareil, your journey's end in the quest for salt. -- CK |
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:18:09 -0500, Charlie Kroeger
wrote: Kenneth says: Would I be incorrect to suggest that [etc] I've tried the mined salt and perhaps it may avoid air and water pollution of recent [synthetic chemical compounds] history but it contains a generous amount of nature's diversity not related to salt. If you're not convinced of this take a half teaspoon of a popular type of this salt, "Real Salt" and dissolve it in a wine glass of hot water. At the bottom you will notice a lot of 'salt' that doesn't dissolve, this is the insoluble parts of mined salt. I would add that these adulterants make up a percentage of the weight you're paying for. I prefer the salt from sea water evaporated from clay lined ponds on the Île de Noirmoutier: http://en.aquasel.fr/ The clay adds mineral content not associated with the sea like iodine plus the sodium levels of this salt are lower than refined salt that may also contain anti-caking agents. If you think all salt taste the same it doesn't. For me the flavor and 'feel' of this particular salt is nonpareil, your journey's end in the quest for salt. Hi Charlie, I did not write "Would I be incorrect to suggest that [etc]" g I wrote "Would I be incorrect to suggest that "sea salt" also has the remnants of, say, the past ten thousand years of human dumping, while mined salt does not?" and until informed otherwise, will probably stick with that understanding of the sea salt thing, though, of course, the dilution comments Dusty offered are absolutely true. Also. you and I would prefer to use salt that does not have, for example, "anti-caking" agents. That's why I find it best to simply read the label. Diamond Crystal's label reads: "Salt." Please understand that I have no objection whatever to you, or anyone else, enjoying sea-salt. Though I do find humorous the oft repeated health claims made for it. All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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"Dusty da baker" wrote in message ... I can taste the difference between regular, iodized table salt and the Kosher salt, only because the taste (by nose?) of the iodine is so intense. But I'll be darned it I've ever been able to taste the differences between that and any of the other salts. At least on me, they'd be wasted. Cripes, you must have a mouth for taste like a dog's nose for smell. Can you taste the chlorine in table salt (sodium chloride)? What is the taste of potassium iodide? (Actually, that is a rhetorical question. (Move over, Kenneth!)) Did anybody out there actually learn any science in whatever school they may have drifted through? "Charlie Kroeger" wrote in message ... [ ... ] I prefer the salt from sea water evaporated from clay lined ponds on the Île de Noirmoutier ... For me the flavor and 'feel' of this particular salt is nonpareil, your journey's end in the quest for salt. Nonpareil??!! Yer shittin' us, right? -- Dicky |
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No, why would I want to go there?
What/who is Texas A&M Dicky anyway? The reason I ask was that I noticed people who used that expression had all gone to Texas A&M..Interesting you've never heard of it. To answer your question: Yer shittin' us, right? no Dicky I shit you not. -- CK |
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I admit to being one of those who is attracted my what I perceive to
be the better or best of whatever...but I usually have to settle for lots less or we'd go broke. Lots of things matter to me that probably shouldn't. I try to achieve the best I can at some things I do too...lately it's been the challenge to pull a better shot of espresso on our new to us La Pavoni Pro lever machine...and get the crust slashes to look like vince's...once achieved, I imagine I'll move onto something else. Lucy |
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Dusty da baker wrote:
"Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... .... I can taste the difference between regular, iodized table salt and the Kosher salt, only because the taste (by nose?) of the iodine is so intense. But I'll be darned it I've ever been able to taste the differences between that and any of the other salts. At least on me, they'd be wasted. As another poster has already posited, mostly those kinds of salts are sold to appeal to the vanity of the buyers. They think they're getting something better, rarer, that cut above... It's a kind of snottery.... to prove somehow one is of a higher class because he: 1) knows of such ingredients; and 2) knows how to obtain them. Usually, those kind of people, however, don't know how to use them effectively. As a example, there's no reason to spend upwards of $50-$70 a pound for Wagyu filet (aka "kobe beef"), if someone is going to give it the same treatment they would, say, even a prime quality porterhouse. B/ |