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Crombie
 
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I have some Carl's sourdough starter. It says to add dried potatoes or
potato water. I have neither. (We never do potato anything in my house)
What can I substitute? Or should I just leave it out and follow the rest
of the instructions?



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If you use just unclorinated water and white flour you will be fine.


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"Crombie" > wrote in message
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> I have some Carl's sourdough starter. It says to add dried potatoes or
> potato water. I have neither. (We never do potato anything in my house)
> What can I substitute? Or should I just leave it out and follow the rest
> of the instructions?
>
>
>



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"Ron Anderson" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> If you use just unclorinated water and white flour you will be

fine.

Ron,
There are several brands of instant potatoes on the market.
Buy a box and keep it around for baking. It has a long shelf
life. It does make a more interesting bread.
Ernie


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Ernie wrote:
>
> "Ron Anderson" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > If you use just unclorinated water and white flour you will be

> fine.
>
> Ron,
> There are several brands of instant potatoes on the market.
> Buy a box and keep it around for baking. It has a long shelf
> life. It does make a more interesting bread.
> Ernie


sure, but it doesn't answer the question why this poeto stuff is on the
reviving procedure for Carl's. I am suspecting something deep there -
maybe somebody is keeping count on how many starters are sent out and
how many of those actually read the instructions, find it odd and post
questions.

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"Ellen Wickberg" wrote:=20

> Maybe they are just being true to a historical tradition.


It's nOObie bait, I think. Most folks find the file at:
http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/revive.txt

The one-namers may need some extra help.

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"Samartha Deva" > wrote in message
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>
> sure, but it doesn't answer the question why this poeto stuff is on the
> reviving procedure for Carl's. I am suspecting something deep there -
> maybe somebody is keeping count on how many starters are sent out and
> how many of those actually read the instructions, find it odd and post
> questions.
>


I decided to live on the edge and try something other than the homemade
starter I've been using for years and got my Carl's in the mail yesterday. I
have to admit that I'm one of the guilty ones who didn't check out the
revival instructions, though I'd read through them before, but it was a
while ago.

I just logged on and read through them again. I think that, even had I read
them, I would have passed on the potato stuff at least for my first attempt
at revival. I'd already started my attempted revival before I logged onto
the site. As it turns out I was doing pretty much the same thing that the
alternate revival method the "reviving the start" link suggests.

Now watch, I won't be able to revive the starter after talking about how I'd
never had a failure in multiple attempts in making starters from scratch a
few months back.

-Mike






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Samartha Deva
 
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Dick Adams wrote:
>
> "Ellen Wickberg" wrote:
>
> > Maybe they are just being true to a historical tradition.

>
> It's nOObie bait, I think. Most folks find the file at:
> http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/revive.txt
>


well, I think, most innocent folks like me would go to
http://www.carlsfriends.org

then click on Download Carl's Brochure

there are three options:

- Microsoft Word '97 & later

- HTML

- Adobe PDF

which all have the poeto info under section 3

That's the obvious way to me over the internet.

Whoever put the unobtrusive link further down so it can be easily
avoided...

What's sent out with the starter powder nowadays, I dunno, when I got
it, it was potetic.

Samartha

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"Samartha Deva" >=20
wrote in message ...

> Dick Adams wrote:


> >It's nOObie bait, I think. Most folks find the file at:
> > http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/revive.txt


> well, I think, most innocent folks like me would=20
> go to http://www.carlsfriends.org


Innocent, eh? So that's your word?!

> then click on Download Carl's Brochure


> there are three options:


Four!

> Whoever put the unobtrusive link further down so it can be easily

avoided...

Whoever would do such a thing?

> What's sent out with the starter powder nowadays, I dunno, when I got
> it, it was potetic.


An easy jump to apotectic, then on to apoplectic.

Here is the straight scoop: any degree of misguidance, even imposition =
of
links (what do you do with those?), on a web page, throws the innocent=20
one into a state of apoplectic confusion. Thereupon the one sends his
query to r.f.s, giving the good advice givers, pregnant with wisdom, the
opportunity to queue up, spout off, and diddle away their idle moments=20
imparting their knowledge. A purpose is thereby served, and the noble =
and=20
learned advice givers are kept busy and off of the streets.

Some folks get the reference to Carl's memorial site as:
http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/source.html
Unfortunately whatever numbskull did that page forgot to put a link back =
to
the main page there, so that would be all the information the one could =
get
unless he/she might know how to trim the URL, which is a whole lot less
likely than being able to click on a link, which might well be out of =
the
question in the first place.

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Dick Adams
<firstname> dot <lastname>at bigfoot dot com=20

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Samartha Deva
 
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Dick Adams wrote:

> > there are three options:

>
> Four!


Good, now, that you found the important item - then, why don't you put
that item, the last option, on first place in
bold//underlined/blinking/red/whatever and state that below are
historical documents from a time where people had more time to dedicate
to documents in different formats and still used poetos, sugar or
whatever to get it going, which is now essentially unnecessary due to
recent mutations in Carl's; nowadays, it's plain text, flour and water
only without poetos - or whatever good reason there is and can be
understood by most people without doing headstands to get the important
option first.

Samartha


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"Samartha Deva" > wrote in message
...
> Dick Adams wrote:
>
> > > there are three options:

> >
> > Four!

>
> Good, now, that you found the important item - then, why don't you put
> that item, the last option, on first place in
> bold//underlined/blinking/red/whatever and state that below are
> historical documents from a time where people had more time to dedicate
> to documents in different formats and still used poetos, sugar or
> whatever to get it going, which is now essentially unnecessary due to
> recent mutations in Carl's; nowadays, it's plain text, flour and water
> only without poetos - or whatever good reason there is and can be
> understood by most people without doing headstands to get the important
> option first.
>

Good grief -- what the heck is poetos?
Sorry for the question -- I'm a NOOOOOOBie.
Dee


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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:01:56 -0500, "Dee Randall"
<deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote:

>Good grief -- what the heck is poetos?
>Sorry for the question -- I'm a NOOOOOOBie.
>Dee
>


Hi Dee,

I will try to help. From the thread of which the above is a part:

>It says to add dried potatoes or
>potato water. I have neither.


>There are several brands of instant potatoes on the market.


>Ellen, who
>doesn't use potato water in starters.


but you really knew all along didn't you...?

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"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message =
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> Good grief -- what the heck is poetos?


It is part of a mystical chant to keep the rain from ruining the rye.

> Sorry for the question -- I'm a NOOOOOOBie.


Nah, not you. You know too much. But it is hard to know when
Samartha is mystifying us with enigma.

"Samartha Deva" >=20
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> why don't you put that item, the last option, on first place in
> bold//underlined/blinking/red/whatever


Blinking sounds good to me. How is it done? "Carlos" would
never agree to have his work displayed ahead of Carl's. But we
could ask.=20

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Dick Adams wrote:
[...]
> Blinking sounds good to me. How is it done?


one way is to open and close eyes, depending how and by whom, it can be
seductive

in html, it's intrusive, that's why I put it last:

Sourdough normal<BR>
<B>Sourdough bold</B><BR>
<I>Sourdough italic</I><BR>
<U>Sourdough underlined</U><BR>
<FONT color="#ff0000">Sourdough red</FONT><BR>
<BLINK>Sourdough blink</BLINK><BR>

how you get this to sound is beyond me, ask a cat - and sourdough
doesn't make much of a sound either, so ???


"Carlos" would
> never agree to have his work displayed ahead of Carl's. But we
> could ask.


If he doesn't agree to that, he gets to answer all the poeto questions
for Carl's historic documents dominant position and if he fails to do
so, we'll tell his cat.

Samartha


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