Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?

Samuel Fromartz wrote:

Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?

For that matter, how vital is it that it be linen? How about cotton canvas? or even (shudder) a polyester canvas weave? If it's well floured, does it matter?

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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:02:38 GMT, Samuel Fromartz
wrote:

Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?

Howdy,

Yes, it is the same stuff...

In addition I have used linen and cotton (I won't even dignify Carl's
comments about other materials g) and the linen is far superior. The
cotton gets "clammy" and tends to stick much more. The linen somehow
seems to feel dry and requires very little flour to release.

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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:28:56 GMT, Carl West
wrote:

For that matter, how vital is it that it be linen? How about cotton canvas? or even (shudder) a polyester canvas weave? If it's well floured, does it matter?

Hi Carl,

I made a playful comment to the OP about the above, but will add he

I know that cotton does not work as well as linen, but poly might work
just fine. It would certainly seem an easy experiment.

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"Samuel Fromartz" wrote in message
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Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?


If I buy linen for proofing, I will go to a fabric store and purchase linen
that hasn't been dyed.

Dee

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:03:19 -0500, "Dee Randall"
deedoveyatshenteldotnet wrote:


"Samuel Fromartz" wrote in message
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Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?


If I buy linen for proofing, I will go to a fabric store and purchase linen
that hasn't been dyed.

Dee


You can get unprimed, undyed linen canvas at art supply places, but I
wonder if it is food safe. Even unprimed linen canvas might have some
sort of sizing on it, as could fabric store linen. I also have the
feeling that washing it would take the stiffness out of it and it
might not be as useful for a couche or basket lining.

My own feeling would be to head for a place that has linen tea towels
and use those. It will be ideal for the oval baskets I have on order
(and wonder if they will ever arrive).

Boron

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:14:24 -0500, Boron Elgar
wrote:

I also have the
feeling that washing it would take the stiffness out of it and it
might not be as useful for a couche or basket lining.

Howdy,

Wash it, iron it, and it is ready to go...

HTH,

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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:36:50 -0500, Kenneth
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:14:24 -0500, Boron Elgar
wrote:

I also have the
feeling that washing it would take the stiffness out of it and it
might not be as useful for a couche or basket lining.

Howdy,

Wash it, iron it, and it is ready to go...

HTH,


"Iron?" What is this strange household implement you speak of?

Boron

Years ago someone suggested that old tablecloths from a charity store
might be a good source of linen. I tried it, and it was good. The =
linen
did not seem to care what kind of a basket or frame it was suspended
from, except that the support needed to be porous.

But, frankly, bannetons, peels, baking stones, seem to me to be a lot
of trouble, when good bread can be made in pans, or by raising dough-
loaves on trays, which can be placed in the oven directly when the time =
is
right.

Of course, I am not trying to impress anyone with the artistic qualities
of my crusts, except Mrs. Adams, whose only requirements are that the=20
crusts not be seeded nor too dark-brown, on account of perceived
health threats. Similarly for linen liners previous used by unknown
persons for unknown purposes.

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"Dick Adams" wrote in message
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Years ago someone suggested that old tablecloths from a charity store
might be a good source of linen. I tried it, and it was good. The linen
did not seem to care what kind of a basket or frame it was suspended
from, except that the support needed to be porous.

DickA

I second this "old tablecloths" use, as I was given many old linen
tablecloths and runners and large napkins by my mother-in-law. I have used
this linen in cheap wicker baskets that I bought specifically to see if it
would work. I did cut them in a "round" large enough so as to not scrooch
down when the dough was put in the basket, but I didn't have the "right
stuff/energy" to hem them and long-stitch the linen to the basket. However,
this "aged" linen worked very well.

DeeDovey

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:47:49 -0500, Boron Elgar
wrote:

"Iron?" What is this strange household implement you speak of?

Boron

Hi Boron,

I apologize...

It is an ancient tool, used for an ancient practice no longer
practiced by many (at least in our home) g.

All the best,

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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:03:19 -0500, "Dee Randall"
deedoveyatshenteldotnet wrote:


"Samuel Fromartz" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?


If I buy linen for proofing, I will go to a fabric store and purchase linen
that hasn't been dyed.

Dee


You can get unprimed, undyed linen canvas at art supply places, but I
wonder if it is food safe. Even unprimed linen canvas might have some
sort of sizing on it, as could fabric store linen. I also have the
feeling that washing it would take the stiffness out of it and it
might not be as useful for a couche or basket lining.

My own feeling would be to head for a place that has linen tea towels
and use those. It will be ideal for the oval baskets I have on order
(and wonder if they will ever arrive).

Boron
Ikea has tea towels that are part linen and part cotton. I have been using
them for basket liners for years. they release the dough easily. They are
quite inexpenssive. they are, however, much to soft to make a couche.
Ellen

Most of these unbleached linens/cottons have quite a good bit if size in
them, it's what makes them moth proof for weavering fibres.
This would need to be washed out before using for food..........qahtan



"Samuel Fromartz" wrote in message
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Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?

That was meant to be weaving fibres...... qahtan



"qahtan" wrote in message
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Most of these unbleached linens/cottons have quite a good bit if size in
them, it's what makes them moth proof for weavering fibres.
This would need to be washed out before using for food..........qahtan



"Samuel Fromartz" wrote in message
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Does anyone know whether the linen canvas for proofing long loaves is
essentially the same linen you can get in an art supply store?

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:34:00 -0500, Kenneth
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:47:49 -0500, Boron Elgar
wrote:

"Iron?" What is this strange household implement you speak of?

Boron

Hi Boron,

I apologize...

It is an ancient tool, used for an ancient practice no longer
practiced by many (at least in our home) g.

All the best,


I have a beautiful Irish linen tablecloth and napkins that only come
out at Thanksgiving. They gets washed immediately after use, but do
not get ironed (we really do have one and a fancy ironing board, too)
until the next holiday or the creases set into them something fierce.

There is something to be said for no-iron table linens.

Boron (who is fortunate to have a husband who irons like a demon and
enjoys it)