George Shirley wrote:

My software is catching all of them but it's still a pain in the butt
when they could be caught at the server. I use Netscape 7.1 as a
browser, email and newsgroup rig too. I go online to receive messages
through MailWasher, those messages from "blacklisted" places I never see
and the ones I do see are still on the server and I can dump them
without them ever coming to my computer. Beyond that I have Zone Alarm
Pro and Norton Antivirus working on my behalf. So far, in nearly 20
years, I've never gotten a virus. (knocks on wooden head for luck). But
the point is that other ISP's do filter viruses at the server and I
really don't see a privacy problem with doing that. Bellsouth is also
very uncommunicative so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

I use very much the same setup (Netscape 7.1, Mailwasher, Norton) and
my ISP is Velocitus. They'll filter spam and viruses sure enough. It's
an extra $1.95 per month. I don't recommend them, either.

Pastorio



George

zxcvbob wrote:

George Shirley wrote:

I was getting 500-700 a day of the "SVEN.A" thank Barb. It's down to
about 20 a day now. My ISP was sending me messages that my mailbox
was full and I was sending them some to ask what the he** they were
doing to stop viruses from coming through their server. The answer I
got " we don't filter viruses because we might inadvertently invade
someone's privacy." I'm a looking for a high speed ISP now that does
filter the !@#$% viruses.


The swen worms were also filling up my 10MB server quota faster than I
could delete them.

I'm using Charter media, and they gave me the same bullshit answer.
After I harangued them enough times, they showed me where I could set
up my own filters on the server. I reject any message over 140k, and
I can handle the rest without much trouble. Every couple of days I
take the filter off for a little while to see if they're still coming
-- they are but they've slowed down quite a bit.

Best regards,
Bob

George Shirley wrote:

My software is catching all of them but it's still a pain in the butt
when they could be caught at the server. I use Netscape 7.1 as a
browser, email and newsgroup rig too. I go online to receive messages
through MailWasher, those messages from "blacklisted" places I never see
and the ones I do see are still on the server and I can dump them
without them ever coming to my computer. Beyond that I have Zone Alarm
Pro and Norton Antivirus working on my behalf. So far, in nearly 20
years, I've never gotten a virus. (knocks on wooden head for luck). But
the point is that other ISP's do filter viruses at the server and I
really don't see a privacy problem with doing that. Bellsouth is also
very uncommunicative so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

George

zxcvbob wrote:

George Shirley wrote:

I was getting 500-700 a day of the "SVEN.A" thank Barb. It's down to
about 20 a day now. My ISP was sending me messages that my mailbox was
full and I was sending them some to ask what the he** they were doing
to stop viruses from coming through their server. The answer I got "
we don't filter viruses because we might inadvertently invade
someone's privacy." I'm a looking for a high speed ISP now that does
filter the !@#$% viruses.


The swen worms were also filling up my 10MB server quota faster than I
could delete them.

I'm using Charter media, and they gave me the same bullshit answer.
After I harangued them enough times, they showed me where I could set up
my own filters on the server. I reject any message over 140k, and I can
handle the rest without much trouble. Every couple of days I take the
filter off for a little while to see if they're still coming -- they are
but they've slowed down quite a bit.

Best regards,
Bob


PacBell is yuck too for customer service. Y'all might want to check out
http://www.datafellows.com which has a couple articles on the Swen virus/worm
which is still kicking the Jones butt. Sigh. It may be my 'puter is infected
and I don't know it even tho I run PCcillin for virus protect. The Macafee
stuff was so great it had a hunnert bells and whistles that kept it from
operating at all. The bad part of Swen is that even tho the messages are
deleted, it can still infect the system. Or something, got to read more....
Edrena the computer un-geek.

The Joneses wrote:
George Shirley wrote:


My software is catching all of them but it's still a pain in the butt
when they could be caught at the server. I use Netscape 7.1 as a
browser, email and newsgroup rig too. I go online to receive messages
through MailWasher, those messages from "blacklisted" places I never see
and the ones I do see are still on the server and I can dump them
without them ever coming to my computer. Beyond that I have Zone Alarm
Pro and Norton Antivirus working on my behalf. So far, in nearly 20
years, I've never gotten a virus. (knocks on wooden head for luck). But
the point is that other ISP's do filter viruses at the server and I
really don't see a privacy problem with doing that. Bellsouth is also
very uncommunicative so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

George

zxcvbob wrote:


George Shirley wrote:


I was getting 500-700 a day of the "SVEN.A" thank Barb. It's down to
about 20 a day now. My ISP was sending me messages that my mailbox was
full and I was sending them some to ask what the he** they were doing
to stop viruses from coming through their server. The answer I got "
we don't filter viruses because we might inadvertently invade
someone's privacy." I'm a looking for a high speed ISP now that does
filter the !@#$% viruses.


The swen worms were also filling up my 10MB server quota faster than I
could delete them.

I'm using Charter media, and they gave me the same bullshit answer.
After I harangued them enough times, they showed me where I could set up
my own filters on the server. I reject any message over 140k, and I can
handle the rest without much trouble. Every couple of days I take the
filter off for a little while to see if they're still coming -- they are
but they've slowed down quite a bit.

Best regards,
Bob



PacBell is yuck too for customer service. Y'all might want to check out
http://www.datafellows.com which has a couple articles on the Swen virus/worm
which is still kicking the Jones butt. Sigh. It may be my 'puter is infected
and I don't know it even tho I run PCcillin for virus protect. The Macafee
stuff was so great it had a hunnert bells and whistles that kept it from
operating at all. The bad part of Swen is that even tho the messages are
deleted, it can still infect the system. Or something, got to read more....
Edrena the computer un-geek.


I tried Macafee once and didn't like it. Norton hasn't failed me so far.
I'm still getting anywhere from 10 to 100 SVEN.A per day, most now come
in the guise of "failed messages." Once the virus has your email address
it will keep trying and trying to get through to you. Does no good to
bounce them as you just add to your own load when the legitimate server
sends them back as unknown. One server in New Zealand is filtering as I
get one or two of their messages a day warning me that some of their
clients are infected. Checked those out to be sure and they were legit.

There is no punishment for those hackers severe enough to satisfy my
lust for revenge. Possibly flogging, then hanging, drawing and
quartering, and throwing their lousy carcasses to the pariah dogs. Naw,
that ain't severe enough.

George

George Shirley wrote:

The Joneses wrote:
George Shirley wrote:


My software is catching all of them but it's still a pain in the butt
when they could be caught at the server. I use Netscape 7.1 as a
browser, email and newsgroup rig too. I go online to receive messages
through MailWasher, those messages from "blacklisted" places I never see
and the ones I do see are still on the server and I can dump them
without them ever coming to my computer. Beyond that I have Zone Alarm
Pro and Norton Antivirus working on my behalf. So far, in nearly 20
years, I've never gotten a virus. (knocks on wooden head for luck). But
the point is that other ISP's do filter viruses at the server and I
really don't see a privacy problem with doing that. Bellsouth is also
very uncommunicative so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

George

zxcvbob wrote:


George Shirley wrote:


I was getting 500-700 a day of the "SVEN.A" thank Barb. It's down to
about 20 a day now. My ISP was sending me messages that my mailbox was
full and I was sending them some to ask what the he** they were doing
to stop viruses from coming through their server. The answer I got "
we don't filter viruses because we might inadvertently invade
someone's privacy." I'm a looking for a high speed ISP now that does
filter the !@#$% viruses.


The swen worms were also filling up my 10MB server quota faster than I
could delete them.

I'm using Charter media, and they gave me the same bullshit answer.
After I harangued them enough times, they showed me where I could set up
my own filters on the server. I reject any message over 140k, and I can
handle the rest without much trouble. Every couple of days I take the
filter off for a little while to see if they're still coming -- they are
but they've slowed down quite a bit.

Best regards,
Bob



PacBell is yuck too for customer service. Y'all might want to check out
http://www.datafellows.com which has a couple articles on the Swen virus/worm
which is still kicking the Jones butt. Sigh. It may be my 'puter is infected
and I don't know it even tho I run PCcillin for virus protect. The Macafee
stuff was so great it had a hunnert bells and whistles that kept it from
operating at all. The bad part of Swen is that even tho the messages are
deleted, it can still infect the system. Or something, got to read more....
Edrena the computer un-geek.


I tried Macafee once and didn't like it. Norton hasn't failed me so far.
I'm still getting anywhere from 10 to 100 SVEN.A per day, most now come
in the guise of "failed messages." Once the virus has your email address
it will keep trying and trying to get through to you. Does no good to
bounce them as you just add to your own load when the legitimate server
sends them back as unknown. One server in New Zealand is filtering as I
get one or two of their messages a day warning me that some of their
clients are infected. Checked those out to be sure and they were legit.

There is no punishment for those hackers severe enough to satisfy my
lust for revenge. Possibly flogging, then hanging, drawing and
quartering, and throwing their lousy carcasses to the pariah dogs. Naw,
that ain't severe enough.

George

Okay George, lets keep this on track - BWB for 40 minutes - 60 at my altitude.
Better yet, 150# pressure for an hour, whaddya think? Gotta kill them bad germs
right?
Edrena

The Joneses wrote:
George Shirley wrote:


The Joneses wrote:

George Shirley wrote:



My software is catching all of them but it's still a pain in the butt
when they could be caught at the server. I use Netscape 7.1 as a
browser, email and newsgroup rig too. I go online to receive messages
through MailWasher, those messages from "blacklisted" places I never see
and the ones I do see are still on the server and I can dump them
without them ever coming to my computer. Beyond that I have Zone Alarm
Pro and Norton Antivirus working on my behalf. So far, in nearly 20
years, I've never gotten a virus. (knocks on wooden head for luck). But
the point is that other ISP's do filter viruses at the server and I
really don't see a privacy problem with doing that. Bellsouth is also
very uncommunicative so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

George

zxcvbob wrote:



George Shirley wrote:



I was getting 500-700 a day of the "SVEN.A" thank Barb. It's down to
about 20 a day now. My ISP was sending me messages that my mailbox was
full and I was sending them some to ask what the he** they were doing
to stop viruses from coming through their server. The answer I got "
we don't filter viruses because we might inadvertently invade
someone's privacy." I'm a looking for a high speed ISP now that does
filter the !@#$% viruses.


The swen worms were also filling up my 10MB server quota faster than I
could delete them.

I'm using Charter media, and they gave me the same bullshit answer.
After I harangued them enough times, they showed me where I could set up
my own filters on the server. I reject any message over 140k, and I can
handle the rest without much trouble. Every couple of days I take the
filter off for a little while to see if they're still coming -- they are
but they've slowed down quite a bit.

Best regards,
Bob



PacBell is yuck too for customer service. Y'all might want to check out
http://www.datafellows.com which has a couple articles on the Swen virus/worm
which is still kicking the Jones butt. Sigh. It may be my 'puter is infected
and I don't know it even tho I run PCcillin for virus protect. The Macafee
stuff was so great it had a hunnert bells and whistles that kept it from
operating at all. The bad part of Swen is that even tho the messages are
deleted, it can still infect the system. Or something, got to read more....
Edrena the computer un-geek.



I tried Macafee once and didn't like it. Norton hasn't failed me so far.
I'm still getting anywhere from 10 to 100 SVEN.A per day, most now come
in the guise of "failed messages." Once the virus has your email address
it will keep trying and trying to get through to you. Does no good to
bounce them as you just add to your own load when the legitimate server
sends them back as unknown. One server in New Zealand is filtering as I
get one or two of their messages a day warning me that some of their
clients are infected. Checked those out to be sure and they were legit.

There is no punishment for those hackers severe enough to satisfy my
lust for revenge. Possibly flogging, then hanging, drawing and
quartering, and throwing their lousy carcasses to the pariah dogs. Naw,
that ain't severe enough.

George


Okay George, lets keep this on track - BWB for 40 minutes - 60 at my altitude.
Better yet, 150# pressure for an hour, whaddya think? Gotta kill them bad germs
right?
Edrena


After we can them can I feed them to the pariah dogs?

George

The Joneses wrote:

PacBell is yuck too for customer service. Y'all might want to check out
http://www.datafellows.com which has a couple articles on the Swen virus/worm
which is still kicking the Jones butt. Sigh. It may be my 'puter is infected
and I don't know it even tho I run PCcillin for virus protect. The Macafee
stuff was so great it had a hunnert bells and whistles that kept it from
operating at all. The bad part of Swen is that even tho the messages are
deleted, it can still infect the system. Or something, got to read more....
Edrena the computer un-geek.


heres a free prog. that screens the email before you
actually get them and can delete them remotely before
having to download them.
I set it to "size" to easily screen the virus mails.
http://www.mailwasher.net



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In article ,
George Shirley wrote:

There is no punishment for those hackers severe enough to satisfy my
lust for revenge. Possibly flogging, then hanging, drawing and
quartering, and throwing their lousy carcasses to the pariah dogs. Naw,
that ain't severe enough.

Force them to use MS Windows for all eternity?

I can sit here amused by the virus (unix). It's slowing down,
though--it took three days to get the first gig of them, and only
1.3G more in over a week.

hawk
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"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" wrote:

Force them to use MS Windows for all eternity?


only if its 3.1 WFW lol


I can sit here amused by the virus (unix). It's slowing down,
though--it took three days to get the first gig of them, and only
1.3G more in over a week.

hawk


Unix/Linux can go into mail filters and set "delete attachments
from 140-160 kb."

most can use/try http://www.mailwasher.net
just grabs the headers and you have the option
to delete them w/o downloading full msgs..




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In article , KenCo wrote:
"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" wrote:

Force them to use MS Windows for all eternity?

only if its 3.1 WFW lol

Err, you're not implying that the versions before or after that are
usable, are you? I find them all a hair pulling experience (It's
*still* a crummy knockoff of the 1988 (sys 5) Mac interface . . .)

I can sit here amused by the virus (unix). It's slowing down,
though--it took three days to get the first gig of them, and only
1.3G more in over a week.

Unix/Linux can go into mail filters and set "delete attachments
from 140-160 kb."

I've got a few procmail filters doing it.

hawk
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