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LynneBo wrote:
Any hope of fixing this? I just did a couple batches of green pepper jelly but it set up like glue. Can this be saved? I've always had more problem with getting the jelly to set...now...wow what a set..it's like taffy. Would adding some liquid and reprocessing help....?? Advice..??? Thanks ~~!!! You could add a little bit of water or apple juice and reprocess them. When I get a jam or jelly that is set too tight, I just stir a tablespoon of hot water into the jar and let it sit overnight, and that usually loosens it up nicely -- but it doesn't help if you want to give them as gifts or enter them in the fair, etc. It would be interesting to try putting the unopned jars it in a BWB for 20 minutes or a pressure canner at 5 pounds for 10 minutes and see if that breaks down the gel. Ordinarily I'm a big fan of not sterilizing jars, but I sometimes sterilize my jars first and then only process jelly for 5 minutes because they often don't seem to set well after 10 minutes of processing. (it probably means the jelly was marginal to begin with, but I hate ending up with 5 or 6 jars of syrup and a half a jar of jelly (the leftover dab that I didn't process)) -Bob |
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In article _kTad.14330$Ia5.7321@edtnps89, "LynneBo"
wrote: Any hope of fixing this? I just did a couple batches of green pepper jelly but it set up like glue. Can this be saved? I've always had more problem with getting the jelly to set...now...wow what a set..it's like taffy. Would adding some liquid and reprocessing help....?? Advice..??? Thanks ~~!!! I don't know, Lynne. Sorry. I think if you add liquid to it, you'll just get syrup - if I'm reading your problem right. If it were a matter of being to stiff (more like really tough Jell-o), heating small quantities would soften it up and make it easier to spread. But it doesn't sound to me like that's your problem. Can we see your recipe? -- -Barb, www.jamlady.eboard.com Updated 10-09-04; Sam I Am!. "Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power." -Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn. |
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Hi Melba,
Yes you're right, it's like Jell-O gone Rambo, I guess I could cut it in cubes and tell my friends it's a new flavour of gummy bears.... suppose I'll try adding a little liquid and see what happens, if you hear an explosion it may not be Mt St. Helens. Interestingly enough I did red pepper jelly right after the green and it turned out beautifully. Here's the recipe. Pepper Jelly 1 1/2 cups finely chopped green bell pepper 1 1/2 cups distilled white vinegar 6 1/2 cups white sugar 3 ounces liquid pectin In a large, stainless steel saucepan, combine green pepper, white vinegar, simmer for 15-20 minutes. Drain mixture into jelly bag. Discard pulp and return liquid to pot, add sugar bring to a boil, and cook for 6 minutes, stirring constantly. Stir in liquid pectin, and continue to boil for 3 more minutes, stirring constantly. Skim off foam with a metal spoon, and remove pan from heat Ladle jelly into sterilized jars, leaving a 1/2 inch space at the top. Seal, and process in a boiling-water canner for 5 minutes. Thanks again Lynne "Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message ... In article _kTad.14330$Ia5.7321@edtnps89, "LynneBo" wrote: Any hope of fixing this? I just did a couple batches of green pepper jelly but it set up like glue. Can this be saved? I've always had more problem with getting the jelly to set...now...wow what a set..it's like taffy. Would adding some liquid and reprocessing help....?? Advice..??? Thanks ~~!!! I don't know, Lynne. Sorry. I think if you add liquid to it, you'll just get syrup - if I'm reading your problem right. If it were a matter of being to stiff (more like really tough Jell-o), heating small quantities would soften it up and make it easier to spread. But it doesn't sound to me like that's your problem. Can we see your recipe? -- -Barb, www.jamlady.eboard.com Updated 10-09-04; Sam I Am!. "Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power." -Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn. |
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OK, so you can cut it into squares -- I was reading it to be gummy and
gooey. Maybe you could cut little bricks and make jelly houses. No? OK. How about this: Mash it up with a fork and use the bits to garnish a chicken or pork dish. Here's from the National Center for Home Food Preservation on the topic: (See my comments at the bottom.) http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/can_07/stiff_jelly.html "Stiff Jams or Jellies Stiff jams or jellies may result from * overcooking, * adding too much pectin, * using too little fruit and/or juice, or. * using too little sugar or too much under-ripe fruit in recipes where purchased pectin is not added (i.e., long-boil or no-pectin added recipes). In the case of too little sugar, excessive cooking to concentrate the sugar to the jellying point is required. Too much under-ripe fruit can result in too much pectin. Always follow the manufacturer's directions for ingredients and precise cooking times found in the packages of commercial pectins. When making jelly or jam without adding purchased pectin, be sure to follow directions for determining doneness or the jellying point. See: http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/can_07/...ut_pectin.html http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/can_07/...ut_pectin.html Trying to remake a stiff jam or jelly for long-term storage is not expected to result in a quality product and is not recommended. Suggested Uses for Stiff Jams or Jellies: If a stiff jam or jelly was processed as recommended in a boiling water canner and the lid is vacuum sealed, the jar can be stored at room temperature like other jam or jelly. (Many homemade jams and jellies will keep with good quality up to one year. The quality loss may be quicker in light-colored and/or reduced-sugar products and it may be desirable to use these within 6-8 months.) Hard-gelled preserves can be used as meat glazes. Warm the jam or jelly and spread it onto any type of meat during and after cooking. Discard any leftover jam or jelly glaze that came into contact with any meat that has not been fully cooked or utensils that came into contact with meat that has not been fully cooked. Stiff jams or jellies can also be warmed for use as pancake or ice cream syrups. Stiff jams or jellies can be thinned with water or fruit juice. They may or may not form a gel again once they are re-heated, as over-cooking of pectin can reduce or destroy its ability to form the gel structure. You will need to experiment with how much liquid is needed to thin your jam or jelly. It is best to work with only 2 to 3 half-pint jars at most at one time. Try four tablespoons (1Ž4 cup) of liquid for each 8-ounce jar. Over very low heat, melt the stiff jam or jelly in the added liquid, stirring constantly to prevent scorching. When it is all in solution, raise the heat to medium and bring the mixture to a full boil, continuing to stir constantly. Remove from heat and quickly skim foam off jelly if necessary. Fill clean, dry containers for refrigerator storage. It is not recommended to re-process the remade jam or jelly in a canner and store it at room temperature. Jellies and jams thinned in this manner may or may not actually gel, but are likely to provide a mixture that that may spread more easily than the stiff product. " My fifty cents worth: Instead of melting the jelly on a stovetop, do it in a microwaveable glass container. (I have a 2-quart Pyrex mixing pitcher that would be perfect.) On the stovetop, the stuff will scorch easily or stick easily; that won't happen in the microwave. Use high power to start with for a couple-three minutes to get it going a bit, then reduce the power to about half -- stir it a bit to see if it's softening up. Then I'd put it into a pan on stovetop as they recommend, add the water, and proceed as above. Again, just my fifty cents worth. (The microwave thing is what I did to a couple jars of jelly when I was making a berry-chipotle concoction a few days ago. I was adding the jellies to the mix. The jelly got to a state of lumpy liquid when I added it to my other kettle. I'd used a wire whisk to break up the big chunks -- that's what I was doing my stirring with.) Now here's another thought, Diane: Is your stuff spreadable? If what you made is spreadable -- or can be made spreadable by stirring it a bit with a spoon -- that's within the range of normal and I wouldn't mess with trying to "fix" anything. It might be just considerably stiffer than your usual outcome with it. Jelly (according to my state's State Fair judges) should be firm and should hold its shape when cut. You should be able to cut it with a knife. If you turn a jar of your "good" stuff upside down, lid off, will it come out of the jar or will it stay there? -Barb In article Xumbd.19151$qU.8113@clgrps13, "Diane" wrote: Hi Melba, Yes you're right, it's like Jell-O gone Rambo, I guess I could cut it in cubes and tell my friends it's a new flavour of gummy bears.... suppose I'll try adding a little liquid and see what happens, if you hear an explosion it may not be Mt St. Helens. Interestingly enough I did red pepper jelly right after the green and it turned out beautifully. Here's the recipe. Pepper Jelly 1 1/2 cups finely chopped green bell pepper 1 1/2 cups distilled white vinegar 6 1/2 cups white sugar 3 ounces liquid pectin In a large, stainless steel saucepan, combine green pepper, white vinegar, simmer for 15-20 minutes. Drain mixture into jelly bag. Discard pulp and return liquid to pot, add sugar bring to a boil, and cook for 6 minutes, stirring constantly. Stir in liquid pectin, and continue to boil for 3 more minutes, stirring constantly. Skim off foam with a metal spoon, and remove pan from heat Ladle jelly into sterilized jars, leaving a 1/2 inch space at the top. Seal, and process in a boiling-water canner for 5 minutes. Thanks again Lynne "Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message ... In article _kTad.14330$Ia5.7321@edtnps89, "LynneBo" wrote: Any hope of fixing this? I just did a couple batches of green pepper jelly but it set up like glue. Can this be saved? I've always had more problem with getting the jelly to set...now...wow what a set..it's like taffy. Would adding some liquid and reprocessing help....?? Advice..??? -- -Barb, www.jamlady.eboard.com Updated 10-09-04; Sam I Am!. "Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power." -Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn. |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
OK, so you can cut it into squares -- I was reading it to be gummy and gooey. Maybe you could cut little bricks and make jelly houses. No? OK. How about this: Mash it up with a fork and use the bits to garnish a chicken or pork dish. Or sell it to those guys on CSI who shoot bullets into it. Just a thought... Pastorio |
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