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Good thing I defrosted the freezer...



 
 
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:29 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Kathi Jones
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...


" wrote in message
...
A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q

Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.

Then, next time you defrost (hopefully, not too many months late -- I
go six months) empty the freezer, turn off motor, let it sit a short
time while you browse this news group. Maybe 15 minutes. Go back to
the freezer. Apply the stream of a hair dryer around the front edges,
perhaps gently assisted by a wooden flat spatula (nometal
orknives!!) In just a few minutes you will be able to remove the
whole sheet icebergs from the tope, sides, back, of the freezer. Be
ready to grab and carry the heavy thing to drop in the bath tub --
they are larger than the double sink

It really takes just minutes. I used to spend hours with pans of hot
water, hair dryer, towels on the floor, frozen foods getting warm in
a cooler chest while waiting to return to their home, etc.

Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.

eh voila!


what a cool idea! LOL...yes, pun intended....

Kathi


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Old 12-07-2008, 04:44 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Melba's Jammin'
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...

In article
,
" wrote:

A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q

Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.


James, that sounds absolutely disgusting. Surely you jest.
(snipped)

It really takes just minutes. I used to spend hours with pans of hot
water, hair dryer, towels on the floor, frozen foods getting warm in
a cooler chest while waiting to return to their home, etc.


Hours? Hours? I do a 20cf upright in less than an hour, Dude.

Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.


I shudder at the thought.

eh voila!


More like, eh oy vey! g
Tell me you're kidding, yeah?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
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"Always in a jam. Never in a stew." - Evergene
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:44 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
j-lattie@neiu.edu
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...

On Jul 12, 10:44 am, Melba's Jammin'
wrote:
In article
,

" wrote:
A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q


Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.


James, that sounds absolutely disgusting. Surely you jest.
(snipped)



It really takes just minutes. I used to spend hours with pans of hot
water, hair dryer, towels on the floor, frozen foods getting warm in
a cooler chest while waiting to return to their home, etc.


Hours? Hours? I do a 20cf upright in less than an hour, Dude.



Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.


I shudder at the thought.



eh voila!


More like, eh oy vey! g
Tell me you're kidding, yeah?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
rec.food.cooking
Preserved Fruit Administrator
"Always in a jam. Never in a stew." - Evergene




An hour!? You poor dear. My method takes about 5 minutes, after the
waiting time. But then, you have nothing but time on your hands.
pbbst

Then, there's this friend whom I kept bugging to periodically empty
the basket in his ice maker, because the old ice was a frozen lump,
including encasing the wire "trip" control. He didn't. heed my wise
advise. He spent (wouldn't tell me how much) in calling in a repair
man and new parts. snap

Melba: Bow to the appreciativeness of the perceptive Kathi.

Harrumph! (tm)
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:46 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
The Joneses[_1_]
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...


"Kathi Jones" wrote in message
...

Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.

eh voila!


what a cool idea! LOL...yes, pun intended....

Kathi

What she said! I would have never thunk of it. But this is my current excuse
for frostless freezer shopping!
Edrena



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Old 12-07-2008, 09:06 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Isabella Woodhouse
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...

In article ,
Brian Mailman wrote:

Our trees are bearing nicely for the first time. My grandmother
always said, "Waste not, want not."


Willful waste is woeful want!

Well, if you go up a node to the Jams index you'll find plums, as well
as navigate to Relishes. Maybe give you ideas for when your garden
begins producing.

You can also type (w/o quotes) "plum NOT index" for all the other plum
recipes. Also "gluten AND free NOT index" for the wheatless schtuff.


Thanks for the database tip. I wish you could give Fine Cooking some
tips. I haven't been able to figure out how to do a discrete search
there. They could take some lessons from you and Epicurious.

Picked a bunch of yummy carrots today and the last of the radishes. The
deer did a lot of damage to the beans last night. My husband is fit to
be tied.

Izzy
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"I will show you fear in a handful of dust"
-T.S. Eliot
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:16 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Isabella Woodhouse
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...

In article
,
" wrote:

A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q

Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.

Then, next time you defrost (hopefully, not too many months late -- I
go six months) empty the freezer, turn off motor, let it sit a short
time while you browse this news group. Maybe 15 minutes. Go back to
the freezer. Apply the stream of a hair dryer around the front edges,
perhaps gently assisted by a wooden flat spatula (nometal
orknives!!) In just a few minutes you will be able to remove the
whole sheet icebergs from the tope, sides, back, of the freezer. Be
ready to grab and carry the heavy thing to drop in the bath tub --
they are larger than the double sink

It really takes just minutes. I used to spend hours with pans of hot
water, hair dryer, towels on the floor, frozen foods getting warm in
a cooler chest while waiting to return to their home, etc.

Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.

eh voila!


Oh my gosh... what a fabulous idea!! Unfortunately, I can't use the
type with both oil and flour unless they've stopped using wheat (celiac
here and I can't risk breathing it in or getting it on the food
packages) but the oil alone should help. I have an upright and the big
chunks tend to form in the corners and crevices, and on the undersides
of the shelves. Thank you so much. That should definitely save a lot
of time.

Izzy
--
"I will show you fear in a handful of dust"
-T.S. Eliot
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:45 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
j-lattie@neiu.edu
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...

On Jul 12, 2:46 pm, "The Joneses" wrote:
"Kathi Jones" wrote in message

...

Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.


eh voila!


what a cool idea! LOL...yes, pun intended....


Kathi


What she said! I would have never thunk of it. But this is my current excuse
for frostless freezer shopping!
Edrena



Just check out the extra energy $$$ that a frostless freezer uses.
Plus, so 've read, for the freezer portion to be "frostless, it really
cycles and has a wide variance in temperature, resulting in frost IN
the packages, freezer burn, and other things that lead to loss of
taste and less storage life.

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Old 13-07-2008, 11:32 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Julie Bove
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...


"Isabella Woodhouse" wrote in message
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The garden hasn't produced anything enough to preserve yet so I thought
I'd better defrost the freezer before I get hit with a deluge. I had a
problem with my hands for a time so it's been over two years. Ugh! It
took my daughter and I all morning. The frost and ice build-up was
quite spectacular. We had a little chat about her standing there with
the door open when she doesn't even know what she's looking for.

I found way too many packages of shredded zucchini. I can't believe I
froze that many! So I'd appreciate any wheatless ideas on how to use
them up. Not realizing how many I had, I've mainly been using them in
meat loaves. They'd be good in soup, too, I think, but we don't eat
much hot soup in the summer.

The only other surprise I found hidden away was two big packs of vacuum
sealed green beans--- Providers I think, from last year. We'll eat
those up pronto and hope the deer don't get into this year's plantings.
Picked our first tomatoes July 6. Last year it was mid-June but it's
been much wetter this year--- a much appreciated end to our several year
drought.


I put veggies in meatloaf too. And pasta sauce. You can put a layer of
zucchini in your lasagna.

Here's a recipe for gluten free zucchini bread that is wonderful! I can't
say for sure if you could use frozen in there but perhaps if you got most of
the liquid out of it.

http://www.celiac.com/articles/812/1...ree/Page1.html


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Old 13-07-2008, 11:35 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Julie Bove
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...


" wrote in message
...
A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q

Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.


snip

She can't have wheat so that wouldn't work.


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Old 13-07-2008, 11:39 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Julie Bove
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...


"Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
...
In article
,
" wrote:

A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q

Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.


James, that sounds absolutely disgusting. Surely you jest.
(snipped)

It really takes just minutes. I used to spend hours with pans of hot
water, hair dryer, towels on the floor, frozen foods getting warm in
a cooler chest while waiting to return to their home, etc.


Hours? Hours? I do a 20cf upright in less than an hour, Dude.

Then remember before resocking and turning it on again, spray the
walls again.


I shudder at the thought.

eh voila!


More like, eh oy vey! g
Tell me you're kidding, yeah?


My daughter has her own little fridge because she has food allergies and
it's easier to keep safe food in there for her. It is designed like a
regular fridge with a little freezer at the top, but it doesn't defrost.

We came home the other day and there was water leaking out onto the dining
room floor. Turns out there was so much ice in there, it had navigated into
the fridge compartment and it was bad.

We simply took everything out, put it in a large cooler with blue ice,
unplugged the unit and put a large towel in the bottom. About an hour
later, most of the ice had melted and what hadn't, had fallen off in a big
chunk. I merely wiped it all out with a paper towel and put the food back
in. We lost some Popsicles. Why I didn't think to put those in the big
freezer is beyond me.


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Old 14-07-2008, 12:01 AM posted to rec.food.preserving
j-lattie@neiu.edu
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On Jul 13, 5:35 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
" wrote in message

...

A li'l tip on defrosting -- if it is not too far off topic for this
group ;-Q


Next time you do a complete freezer defrosting, including wiping dry
the inerior walls. Before repacking and turning the machine back
on,spray the entire insides -- walls, roof, bottom, with a "Pam" or
other cooking spray. Best the type that uses both oil and flour.


snip

She can't have wheat so that wouldn't work.



Well, this was a generic tip. Adjust according to personal needs.

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Old 14-07-2008, 04:59 AM posted to rec.food.preserving
Isabella Woodhouse
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In article ,
"Julie Bove" wrote:

"Isabella Woodhouse" wrote in message
...

[...]
I found way too many packages of shredded zucchini. I can't believe I
froze that many! So I'd appreciate any wheatless ideas on how to use
them up. Not realizing how many I had, I've mainly been using them in
meat loaves. They'd be good in soup, too, I think, but we don't eat
much hot soup in the summer.


I put veggies in meatloaf too. And pasta sauce. You can put a layer of
zucchini in your lasagna.


You know, I haven't tried GF lasagna yet but I see that Tinkyada does
have brown rice lasagna noodles so it's on my cooking agenda. Thanks
for the suggestion.

Here's a recipe for gluten free zucchini bread that is wonderful! I can't
say for sure if you could use frozen in there but perhaps if you got most of
the liquid out of it.

http://www.celiac.com/articles/812/1...ree/Page1.html


That does look like a good one. I especially like all the nuts. Soon
we'll have some zucchini so I can certainly make it with fresh instead
of frozen. Thank you!

Izzy
--
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-T.S. Eliot
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Old 15-07-2008, 12:59 AM posted to rec.food.preserving
Virginia Tadrzynski
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"Isabella Woodhouse" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gloria P wrote:

Isabella Woodhouse wrote:

I found way too many packages of shredded zucchini. I can't believe I
froze that many! So I'd appreciate any wheatless ideas on how to use
them up. Not realizing how many I had, I've mainly been using them in
meat loaves. They'd be good in soup, too, I think, but we don't eat
much hot soup in the summer.


Try draining the zucchini well and make a fritata or quiche.
Use it as a base instead of spaghetti for meat sauce or for chili.
I make lots of zucchini bread, but you said wheatless....


Ah ha... great ideas! If not for you, I would probably not have put the
two together--- eggs and zucchini that is. I often have a little omelet
in the AM. I'm thinking the drained zucchini would go well in that
too... a little parmesan maybe with a little chile pepper. Yum.

I used to make a lot of zucchini bread and that's pretty much how I got
used to using the frozen zucchini. I've only recently (and grudgingly)
started wheatless baking and it is much more difficult to achieve a
decent result sans gluten. However, I just ordered a highly recommended
baking mix and I'm looking for a zucchini bread recipe using that mix.
Meanwhile, our zucchini plants are growing by leaps and bounds... lol.
I'm determined to use up what I have frozen before I start freezing more!

Thanks again to you and the others.

Izzy
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"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson


Izzy,
do a search on gluten free recipe sites (they DO exist, I found one the
other day) then plug in zucchini there to see what pops up. Also, if I
locate one of those new zappers that give an electrical shock to the
teenager who finds it necessary to open the freezer door three times in 30
minutes each time asking 'what's to eat', I'll let you know about it. Right
now I have a ball-peen hammer on the ready for the block of ice that has
formed in the ice maker due to said 'previewing' actions.
-ginny


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Old 15-07-2008, 01:53 AM posted to rec.food.preserving
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:59:29 -0500, Isabella Woodhouse
wrote:

sniipies

You know, I haven't tried GF lasagna yet but I see that Tinkyada does
have brown rice lasagna noodles so it's on my cooking agenda. Thanks
for the suggestion.


The noodles are delicous, and your zuchinni will be great it in. Have
fun!

sn ow
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Old 15-07-2008, 06:51 AM posted to rec.food.preserving
Isabella Woodhouse
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Default Good thing I defrosted the freezer...

In article ,
"Virginia Tadrzynski" wrote:

"Isabella Woodhouse" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gloria P wrote:

Isabella Woodhouse wrote:

I found way too many packages of shredded zucchini.... [...]

Try draining the zucchini well and make a fritata or quiche.
Use it as a base instead of spaghetti for meat sauce or for chili.
I make lots of zucchini bread, but you said wheatless....


Ah ha... great ideas! If not for you, I would probably not have put the
two together--- eggs and zucchini that is.... [...]

I used to make a lot of zucchini bread and that's pretty much how I got
used to using the frozen zucchini. I've only recently (and grudgingly)
started wheatless baking and it is much more difficult to achieve a
decent result sans gluten. However, I just ordered a highly recommended
baking mix and I'm looking for a zucchini bread recipe using that mix.
Meanwhile, our zucchini plants are growing by leaps and bounds... lol.
I'm determined to use up what I have frozen before I start freezing more!


Izzy,
do a search on gluten free recipe sites (they DO exist, I found one the
other day) then plug in zucchini there to see what pops up.


Oh yes, there are an increasing number of GF (gluten free) databases.
And it's wonderful to see. But they usually aren't necessary except for
baking. And GF baking is still so very much in its infancy. Most of it
tastes pretty awful IMO... dry, gritty, lousy mouthfeel, etc. Zucchini
bread won't be too bad, probably, but most of the really good stuff has
no decent GF counterpart. I'm not complaining, mind you, when you
consider that no other medical condition, except food allergies, can be
totally alleviated by simply not eating certain things.

...Also, if I locate one of those new zappers that give an electrical
shock to the teenager who finds it necessary to open the freezer door
three times in 30 minutes each time asking 'what's to eat', I'll let
you know about it. Right now I have a ball-peen hammer on the ready
for the block of ice that has formed in the ice maker due to said
'previewing' actions.


LOL. Yes, I definitely need one of those zappers. I also need mine to
go off when my daughter starts reorganizing my freezer... and the
kitchen cupboards. Drives me crazy.

Izzy
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"I will show you fear in a handful of dust"
-T.S. Eliot
 




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