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The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote:
The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. George |
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George Shirley wrote:
zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing |
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Ophelia wrote:
George Shirley wrote: zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks. George |
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George Shirley wrote:
Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing ![]() It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks. I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' ) |
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Ophelia wrote:
George Shirley wrote: Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing ![]() It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks. I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' ) Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks. George |
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob I had the same reaction when my local grocer got a new manager in the produce department. They used to put 'about-to-spoil' peppers, apples, pomegranates, bananas, you name it, in plastic wrapped packages for a tenth of the regular 'fresh' price. And in allot of cases, I'd buy it all up to make things like banana muffins, pepper jelly, pomegranate jelly, etc. They don't do it anymore, so I don't get to buy a whole bunch of stuff to put up like I used to. The meat guy still puts stuff out in the used meat bin though. Yesterday I got medium ground beef for .49 a pound - I bought 12 pounds! Will make great spaghetti sauces, soups, lasagnes, and a bunch of other stuff for months!! Kathi |
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Kathi Jones wrote:
"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob I had the same reaction when my local grocer got a new manager in the produce department. They used to put 'about-to-spoil' peppers, apples, pomegranates, bananas, you name it, in plastic wrapped packages for a tenth of the regular 'fresh' price. And in allot of cases, I'd buy it all up to make things like banana muffins, pepper jelly, pomegranate jelly, etc. They don't do it anymore, so I don't get to buy a whole bunch of stuff to put up like I used to. The meat guy still puts stuff out in the used meat bin though. Yesterday I got medium ground beef for .49 a pound - I bought 12 pounds! Will make great spaghetti sauces, soups, lasagnes, and a bunch of other stuff for months!! Kathi I have to one up you Kathi. Friend just brought me twelve pounds of ground whole cow in two pound packages. To top it all off he also brought me a round steak that was about 20 inches across, the whole section of a calf's leg, and a couple of packages of filet mignon. I about passed out when he handed me the bag. I knew we were good friends but not that good. Note: He runs a few cows on 110 acres nearby, and he had culled a barren cow (ground meat) and had butchered a big calf. Free meat is always good. Our market just tosses the fruit when they can't sell it. I've been after the produce manager to call me when he has a lot of it. Figure I could at least make wine out of it if nothing else. George |
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George Shirley wrote:
Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing ![]() It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks. I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks. G I am not sure what a redneck is. |
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Ophelia wrote:
George Shirley wrote: Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing ![]() It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks. I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks. G I am not sure what a redneck is. Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther necks were sunburned. Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH George |
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"George Shirley" wrote in message .. . Kathi Jones wrote: "zxcvbob" wrote in message ... The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob I had the same reaction when my local grocer got a new manager in the produce department. They used to put 'about-to-spoil' peppers, apples, pomegranates, bananas, you name it, in plastic wrapped packages for a tenth of the regular 'fresh' price. And in allot of cases, I'd buy it all up to make things like banana muffins, pepper jelly, pomegranate jelly, etc. They don't do it anymore, so I don't get to buy a whole bunch of stuff to put up like I used to. The meat guy still puts stuff out in the used meat bin though. Yesterday I got medium ground beef for .49 a pound - I bought 12 pounds! Will make great spaghetti sauces, soups, lasagnes, and a bunch of other stuff for months!! Kathi I have to one up you Kathi. Friend just brought me twelve pounds of ground whole cow in two pound packages. To top it all off he also brought me a round steak that was about 20 inches across, the whole section of a calf's leg, and a couple of packages of filet mignon. I about passed out when he handed me the bag. I knew we were good friends but not that good. Note: He runs a few cows on 110 acres nearby, and he had culled a barren cow (ground meat) and had butchered a big calf. Free meat is always good. Our market just tosses the fruit when they can't sell it. I've been after the produce manager to call me when he has a lot of it. Figure I could at least make wine out of it if nothing else. George Local manager at the store I worked at started tossing the 'almost' stuff, too. He's the one I worked for in the fish and seafood department (I couldn't continue to work for the greedy SOB). My advice is, if the meat manager is still the same, make an acquaintance of the person, ask them if they got any 'overruns' or near to expirations in the back. Sometimes, if they are a good egg, they will mark them down for you just to move the stock, since if they don't and it either gets tossed or returned, they have to count it against their department as 'shrink' (or a loss). Any money they can make on it makes the department look good. The same with produce. The meat department always had 'overruns' (double orders or order for more than they needed) as the manager always double checked and changed the order of the meat manager who had done it just fine for 12 years before the 'big guy' came in. We got boneless pork ribs for 99 cents a pound due to the fact the meat manager ordered what she could sell in a week and the store manager tripled the amount.....she had to cut her losses and get what she could for the four pallets of pork in the freezer. If the staff 'in the know' know you are ready willing and able to take the stuff of their hands, it's a win win situation for them, they get rid of the merchandise and their shrink numbers go down, and you get a bargain you can use. It's best to go to the department heads, though. -ginny |
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Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
I have to one up you Kathi. Friend just brought me twelve pounds of ground whole cow in two pound packages. To top it all off he also brought me a round steak that was about 20 inches across, the whole section of a calf's leg, and a couple of packages of filet mignon. I about passed out when he handed me the bag. I knew we were good friends but not that good. Note: He runs a few cows on 110 acres nearby, and he had culled a barren cow (ground meat) and had butchered a big calf. Free meat is always good. Our market just tosses the fruit when they can't sell it. I've been after the produce manager to call me when he has a lot of it. Figure I could at least make wine out of it if nothing else. George Local manager at the store I worked at started tossing the 'almost' stuff, too. He's the one I worked for in the fish and seafood department (I couldn't continue to work for the greedy SOB). My advice is, if the meat manager is still the same, make an acquaintance of the person, ask them if they got any 'overruns' or near to expirations in the back. Sometimes, if they are a good egg, they will mark them down for you just to move the stock, since if they don't and it either gets tossed or returned, they have to count it against their department as 'shrink' (or a loss). Any money they can make on it makes the department look good. The same with produce. The meat department always had 'overruns' (double orders or order for more than they needed) as the manager always double checked and changed the order of the meat manager who had done it just fine for 12 years before the 'big guy' came in. We got boneless pork ribs for 99 cents a pound due to the fact the meat manager ordered what she could sell in a week and the store manager tripled the amount.....she had to cut her losses and get what she could for the four pallets of pork in the freezer. If the staff 'in the know' know you are ready willing and able to take the stuff of their hands, it's a win win situation for them, they get rid of the merchandise and their shrink numbers go down, and you get a bargain you can use. It's best to go to the department heads, though. -ginny The produce manager is a long-time friend but is out for medical at the moment and the head butcher just retired last week and the market is looking for another. When Greg, the produce guy, is there I can often buy whole flats of going off produce, same with the old butcher, all except preserved meats (excepting hams)since the vendor gets those back for some reason. Maybe they sell them at Big Lots or something. Before the butcher retired I bought two butt portion Cook's hams for 79 cents a lb even though they were marked 99 cents a lb for Christmas. The expiration date was before Christmas so he sold them to me for less to get them out of the store. I smoked one for Christmas and froze the other. Went back this week and bought another ten pounder for 69 cents a lb, marked that way too and two hickory smoked Cook's butt portion hams, usually something over $2 a lb for $1.16. Long as I have plenty of freezer room it won't go bad as I put them in a big vac bag and vacuum seal them for later use. Good advice though Ginny, I may scout the other two markets in town and shmooze with the department managers. George |
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George Shirley wrote:
Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: Ophelia wrote: George Shirley wrote: zxcvbob wrote: The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Bob You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin. I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing ![]() It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks. I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks. G I am not sure what a redneck is. Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther necks were sunburned. Nothing wrong with hard work! Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH Thanks George. I haven't heard of Foxworthy, but now I understand ![]() |
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Ophelia wrote:
I am not sure what a redneck is. Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther necks were sunburned. Nothing wrong with hard work! Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH Thanks George. I haven't heard of Foxworthy, but now I understand ![]() I lost my redneck status in the early seventies when I finally went to college. After graduation I just became ordinary oil field trash. Go here for some of Foxworthy's definitions of a redneck. http://www.fortogden.com/foredneck.html OB: preserving: Rednecks do tend to raise large broods of children and hence, raise large gardens and put up the food. George |
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message
... The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing. Do you have any soup kitchens or the like in your area? For a number of reasons, a lot of these places are really hurting for donations now. If such exists in your area, why not give them a call and explain the change in store policy? They may be able to convince the manager that it's better to get a charitable donation write-off than nothing. And it really is a pity to have perfectly good meat go into a landfill rather than the belly of a hungry person. Anny |