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Jalapeno Conspiracy



 
 
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Old 16-07-2007, 03:15 PM posted to rec.food.preserving,rec.food,cooking,rec.gardens
Jack Schmidling[_1_]
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What has happened to jalapeno peppers?

The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers.
I have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting
worse with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely
find a hot one.

The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?

The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started
growing our own from seed. Well, guess what again?

This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
garden and they are all the same.

Any thoughts?

js

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Old 16-07-2007, 03:38 PM posted to rec.food.preserving,rec.food,cooking,rec.gardens
JoeSpareBedroom
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"Jack Schmidling" wrote in message
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What has happened to jalapeno peppers?

The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers. I
have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting worse
with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely find a
hot one.

The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?

The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started growing
our own from seed. Well, guess what again?

This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
garden and they are all the same.

Any thoughts?



I've grown Burpee "Jalapeño M" for the past two years and the peppers had
plenty of kick. What brand & variety did you grow?


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Old 16-07-2007, 05:27 PM posted to rec.food.preserving,rec.food,cooking,rec.gardens
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Jack Schmidling wrote:
What has happened to jalapeno peppers?

The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers.
I have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting
worse with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely
find a hot one.

The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?

The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started
growing our own from seed. Well, guess what again?

This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
garden and they are all the same.

Any thoughts?

js



You're pampering the plants, and picking the peppers too early.

When buying jalapeños at the grocery store, look for peppers that have
cracks in them, or are turning red. They will be the hotter ones
because they are more mature and/or grown when the plants were more
stressed.

When growing your own, leave them on the plants a while after they get
big. Wait until they have stopped growing for maybe a week (or you can
wait and pick them red)

Or the seed company may have mixed up the seeds and you really got one
of those cursed mild jalapeño varieties.

Bob
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Old 16-07-2007, 06:16 PM posted to rec.food.preserving
Anny Middon
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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Jack Schmidling wrote:
What has happened to jalapeno peppers?

The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers.
I have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting
worse with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely
find a hot one.

The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?

The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started
growing our own from seed. Well, guess what again?

This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
garden and they are all the same.

Any thoughts?

js



You're pampering the plants, and picking the peppers too early.

When buying jalapeños at the grocery store, look for peppers that have
cracks in them, or are turning red. They will be the hotter ones because
they are more mature and/or grown when the plants were more stressed.

When growing your own, leave them on the plants a while after they get
big. Wait until they have stopped growing for maybe a week (or you can
wait and pick them red)

Or the seed company may have mixed up the seeds and you really got one of
those cursed mild jalapeño varieties.


What's with the mild ones.anyway? I remember reading a few years ago that
someone had come up with a jalapeno without any heat. I coulkdn't figure
out the point -- there are dozens (if not hundreds) of pepper varieties, are
there none without heat that would fit the bill without screwing around with
the venerable jalapeno?

The ones we grow have always been plenty hot. Jack, maybe you should try
some other varieties if you have problems growing hot jalapenos. Serranos
are good, and pretty hot. My Super Chili plants are loaded this year, and
they were nicely hot last year (can't try 'em yet, not red).

And of course there are always habaneros. I quit growing them though
because the output was too small -- my garden space is very limited and I
restrict myself to plants that put out a lot of fruit.

Anny


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Old 16-07-2007, 06:46 PM posted to rec.food.preserving,rec.food.cooking,rec.gardens
The Joneses[_1_]
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"Jack Schmidling" wrote in message
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What has happened to jalapeno peppers?

The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers. I
have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting worse
with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely find a
hot one.

The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?

The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started growing
our own from seed. Well, guess what again?

This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
garden and they are all the same.

Any thoughts?

js

I feel yer pain, little brother. A farmer down here in the chile capitol
said that the chiles on the ends of the field that got less water were
hotter. And to watch your variety. hth
Edrena


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Old 18-07-2007, 02:53 AM posted to rec.food.preserving,rec.food.cooking,rec.gardens
cattanack@yahoo.com
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Jack Schmidling wrote:
What has happened to jalapeno peppers?

The ones in the supermarket more often than not taste like bell peppers.
I have noticed this over the past few years and it seems to be getting
worse with time. We used to get a dudd now and then but now we rarely
find a hot one.

The solution of course, is to grow them ourselves. Well guess what?

The ones from the garden shops have the same problem so we started
growing our own from seed. Well, guess what again?

This year's jalapenos grown from seeds advertised as hot are perfectly
sweet. We sampled three different plants from different areas of the
garden and they are all the same.

Any thoughts?

js

I've said over the past few years that the jalapeños taste like
concentrated Bell peppers.

My friend agrees

I like them for substituting green peppers for taste, a little goes a
long way in cooking but
it's missing something. The jalapeño taste.

I believe it is a conspiracy.

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Old 21-07-2007, 03:36 AM posted to rec.food.preserving
TI99A@tamu.edu
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Texas A&M has a variety named TAMU that is one step above bell pepper,
just barely.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:19:35 -0600, Jack Schmidling
wrote:

wrote:

I've said over the past few years that the jalapeños taste like
concentrated Bell peppers.


I believe it is a conspiracy.


Thank you. I have been reading this thread (which I started) for a week
and tasting jalapenos from the garden and the supermarket.

They are everything that has been said about them.... about the nicest
pepper on earth but they are not hot anymore.

They, like everything else, have been dumbed down for the mushbrained
masses.

If I come across a hot one, I will save the seeds and try to re-culture
them.

We have been screwed again by those who "know" what we should like....
Wonder bread, Bud, chicken breast and now sweet jalapenos

js

 




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