Born and raised in Monterrey, México (Arriba los Rayados). And we use
a lot of flour tortillas too. Look there is no need for further
arguments, it is very simple, really:
Taco : A Tortilla (maiz or wheat flour) filled with some food, like
beans, beef, some stew, scrambled eggs, sea food, pasta, etc. usually
rolled or just folded in half
Some mexicans prefeer to use a piece of tortilla and use it as a spoon
to eat or rolled as a stick to help the food into the spoon or fork.
some would have a pile of tortillas at the table and make tacos from
whatever they have on their dish (I do).
If what you are calling a burrito is something like a package, where
you don't see the fillings from the sides, well , that's not really
used in Mexico.
If a buriito you call a large flour tortilla (some 12") with something
inside, well you might call it just a large taco, some call them
burritos, some call them "piratas" some call them tacotes.

And yes you are somewhat rigth, in Mexico, from region to region food
names can mean a lot of different things.

Felices Fiestas.

This poster ASKED for a Salsa suitable for Burritos, yet all of you
"dodged" the bullet, and wrote a bunch of off topic bullshit instead.

I'm sure the OP really appreciated all of your help.

Mark D wrote:
This poster ASKED for a Salsa suitable for Burritos, yet all of you
"dodged" the bullet, and wrote a bunch of off topic bullshit instead.

I'm sure the OP really appreciated all of your help.



Well, the original poster (that's me! ;-) remains a little confused. I
guess I plan to Google for mole recipes when I feel a little maxed out.
I hope I can find something.


(For what it's worth, I went back to my favorite place and checked out
the salsa/mole/sauce/whatever and those small yellow seeds in it
certainly could be sesame seeds as someone suggested. They certainly
aren't hot.)


E

"Eldritch" wrote in message
news:Rhtlf.7200$xg1.4651@trnddc03...
Mark D wrote:
This poster ASKED for a Salsa suitable for Burritos, yet all of you
"dodged" the bullet, and wrote a bunch of off topic bullshit instead.

I'm sure the OP really appreciated all of your help.



Well, the original poster (that's me! ;-) remains a little confused. I
guess I plan to Google for mole recipes when I feel a little maxed out.
I hope I can find something.


(For what it's worth, I went back to my favorite place and checked out
the salsa/mole/sauce/whatever and those small yellow seeds in it
certainly could be sesame seeds as someone suggested. They certainly
aren't hot.)


E

Well I am certainly sorry that I didn't help! I did try though. However I
will try not to help in the future.

Charlie

CK wrote:
Anything in chili sauce is an enchilada. Any kind of meat in a chili
sauce is "enchilada", too, but the term has been shortened to "chili"
and people argue endlessly over whether "chili" is "chili" if it has
ground beef or beans in it and they will wisely proclaim that tortillas
dipped in chile sauce, filled with meat or cheese, covered with more
sauce and baked in an oven are the only real enchiladas.

Oh, and the tortilla must be *rolled*, not folded. How gross. A folded
enchilada, like I make.

Anyway, the tortilla in chili sauce is the most common usage in
American, but, what do the gringos know?

Researching further, in LaRousse's Spanish dictionary, I find that
"enchilada" or "enchilado" is an adjective, and the final suffix varies
as to whether that item that is seasoned with chili is masculine or
feminine.

In American usage, "enchilada" is a "tortilla de maiz rellena de carne,
queso, o verdura". We can all agree on that, at least.

But, in Mexico "enchilado" is also a "guiso con salsa de chile".

"Guisar" means to cook, a "guiso" is a stew, a "guisote" is a poor
stew..

"Guisotear" means to cook, but I suppose the forming of "guisote" into
a verb means that the cook is cooking up a mess!

In Mexico, "enchilida" or "enchilado" can also be a *person* "que tiene
el color bermejo, como el chile". It can also mean "colerico, o
rabioso". ROFL!

I am envisioning certain Usenet *enchilados* who work themselves into
fits of rage over the definition or authenticity of various Mexican
menu items...

Cookbooks and websites have to be organized according to popular
perceptions of what a thing is, but what *is* a taco, in reality? Could
it be other than a folded tortilla filled with meat, cheese, and
lettuce?

Well, according to LaRousse, a "taco" can be a snack, or a bite to eat.
A taco can be a cube or a piece of something.

Adding the "-te" suffix to "taco", we get "tacote" and one would assume
that if a "guisote" was a poor stew, a "tacote" would be a poor taco,
whatever a taco may be in any place or time.

Por ejemplo, es possible tomar "un taco de jamon". It's possible to eat
a bit of ham.
But who ever heard of a *ham taco*?

Y, es posible beber "un taco de vino", according to LaRousse. It gets
really ridiculous to imagine a wine taco where one sips wine out of a
corn tortilla.

And then we get into "idiomas" which may be Mexican or Spanish. One
really must be careful with the slang to avoid insulting Spaniards or
Mexicans with the wrong usage.

"Estar hecho un taco" means to be all mixed up, not to be folded into a
taco for consumption by a tourist.

"Armarse un taco" means to get all mixed up.

And then what might the verb "taconear" mean? One source says that
"taconear" means to stamp one's heel, one of the definitions of "taco"
is heel.

And, an alternative Mexican Spanish dictionary claims that a "taconera"
is a female prostitute who "gets stuffed".

So, I had better be careful if I call the senorita behind the counter
in my favorite taqueria a "taconera". It may not mean that she's a
heel-stamping Flamenco dancer at all. :-(

Charles Gifford wrote:
"Eldritch" wrote in message

Well I am certainly sorry that I didn't help! I did try though. However I
will try not to help in the future.

Charlie




I didn't mean to imply you or others weren't helpful. I'm sorry if my
post came across that way. Cooking has always seemed difficult to me,
so it's easy to max out and find myself at a loss. But I'm sure I'll
regroup and approach this again.

In the meantime, I hope you'll continue contributing to the group.


E

"Eldritch" wrote

SNIPS
Cooking has always seemed difficult to me,
so it's easy to max out and find myself at a loss. But I'm sure I'll
regroup and approach this again.
SNIP

E

Well said! Thank you. I am looking forward to your future posts!

Charlie

"Charles Gifford" wrote in
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wrote in message
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I've been looking for "Mexican recipes burrito salsa".

Well, I don't think you are going to find many , as burritos aren't
really mexican food.
___________________________

Sure they are. Common in Sonora. They became quite popular when
introduced into AZ and CA by field workers who brought their lunches
that way.

Charlie



Actually in Mexico anything rolled up into a tortilla, ("burrito style")
is called a "taco" and not burrito.

"lunallena" wrote in message
...
"Charles Gifford" wrote in
nk.net:


wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been looking for "Mexican recipes burrito salsa".

Well, I don't think you are going to find many , as burritos aren't
really mexican food.
___________________________

Sure they are. Common in Sonora. They became quite popular when
introduced into AZ and CA by field workers who brought their lunches
that way.

Charlie



Actually in Mexico anything rolled up into a tortilla, ("burrito style")
is called a "taco" and not burrito.

You did a horrible job of snipping posts. In reference to my post, it makes
not a bit of difference what they are called. Flour tortillas are well known
in Mexico. Burritos as they are now known were introduced to California and
Arizona by Mexican field workers. If you are going to quote other peoples
posts please make some attempt to do it correctly.

Charlie

Charles Gifford wrote:
wrote in message
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Yes , an enchilada is a taco, And why do you call me dumb? you are
talking about mexican food with a mexican, by the way, I discoverd that
thing you call burritos on a shopping trip to McAllen TX, in a mobile
food cart outside of the Globe Mall when I was maybe 8 yrs. old. First
time i saw such a thing I thougth "Damn gringos, what will they come
out with next?"


I see......you are a Mexican. Where in Mexico do you live? I would guess
that you were not born in Sonora as the flour tortilla is common there. To
understand the history of the burrito in the U.S. you would have to know
something about the history of Mexican field workers in Arizona and
California. You are quite wrong about the history of the burrito.

Charlie


I back Charlie up on this one... And by the way here in southern AZ,the
land of the Gadsen Purchase (last land annexed from old Mexico) it is
reffered to as a burro not burrito like your Tex-Mex/Los Angeles-Mex
cousins. I have no idea how old you are but I have been eating burros
for at least 40 years. I'll ask my 94 year old cowboy grandfather at
Christmas for you.

"Sonoran Dude" wrote
I back Charlie up on this one... And by the way here in southern AZ,the
land of the Gadsen Purchase (last land annexed from old Mexico) it is
reffered to as a burro not burrito like your Tex-Mex/Los Angeles-Mex
cousins.

Just a quibble, but not Los Angeles-Mex. There is a well established Cal-Mex
cuisine though. There is also an identifiable "East L.A. style" which seems
to be a combination of Cal-Mex and Mexican with fast food influences. That
is not necessarily a bad thing. I love East L.A. style tacos, which seem to
be a home made take on Jack-in-the-Box tacos.

Ain't this fun!

Charlie

Charles Gifford wrote:
"Sonoran Dude" wrote

I back Charlie up on this one... And by the way here in southern AZ,the
land of the Gadsen Purchase (last land annexed from old Mexico) it is
reffered to as a burro not burrito like your Tex-Mex/Los Angeles-Mex
cousins.


Just a quibble, but not Los Angeles-Mex. There is a well established Cal-Mex
cuisine though. There is also an identifiable "East L.A. style" which seems
to be a combination of Cal-Mex and Mexican with fast food influences. That
is not necessarily a bad thing. I love East L.A. style tacos, which seem to
be a home made take on Jack-in-the-Box tacos.

Ain't this fun!

Charlie


Have you tried the tacos at Tito's in Culver City? That place is a gold
mine... a unique almost middle eastern spice to it but like you say jack
in the box style... I wish I had a place with 5 lines 5 customers deep
for 4 hours a day.

"Sonoran Dude" wrote
Have you tried the tacos at Tito's in Culver City? That place is a gold
mine... a unique almost middle eastern spice to it but like you say jack
in the box style... I wish I had a place with 5 lines 5 customers deep
for 4 hours a day.

I have eaten at Tito's! Great food of the normal Cal-Mex variety. Good place
to eat but those long lines! Every Mexican I've known who lives in the L.A.
area has recommended Tito's to me.

Charlie

You guys will not believe when I tell you this, but my wife and I are
expatriates from Santa Monica, so we grew up with Titos Tacos. Remember
when they were that small place on the corner ??
Here the story. We lived a long time in Germany and Switzerland, and I have
often bought a dozen all beef burritos from Titos Tacos. Go to my sister
and freeze them. Then take them back to Europe. Each time we visit my
sister in Camarillo today, I go through the same procedure over and over
.....

"Charles Gifford" wrote in message
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"Sonoran Dude" wrote
Have you tried the tacos at Tito's in Culver City?

"Eye Indo" wrote in message
...
You guys will not believe when I tell you this, but my wife and I are
expatriates from Santa Monica, so we grew up with Titos Tacos. Remember
when they were that small place on the corner ??
Here the story. We lived a long time in Germany and Switzerland, and I
have
often bought a dozen all beef burritos from Titos Tacos. Go to my sister
and freeze them. Then take them back to Europe. Each time we visit my
sister in Camarillo today, I go through the same procedure over and over
....

Excellent! I love Santa Monica! I even think now and again about moving
there from San Diego. If you visit Camarillo, have you ever eaten at La
Super Rica Taqueria in Santa Barbara? Even better tacos! The tortillas are
only made when they are ordered. Probably the best Mexican food I have ever
eaten in the U.S. Even Julia Child often ate there. It is another
line-out-the-door place.

Charlie