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Old 07-12-2004, 06:52 PM
Just Me
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Default Making Tamales Question

Ok im making tamales for the first time ever..Yes im mexican and my
family are the ones that always did the cooking and today i want to make
them or at least try. Well my question is ?
What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve
a double broiler so i wanted to see if anyone knows of a easy way to
steam these tamales to cook them?
I hope many of you will share with me how to steam them so i can
enjoy eating them..LOL
All help is appreciated.. I am using the ready made Masa and i
already cooked my meat and seasoning in the crock pot.
Hey thats an idea can i steam them in the crock Pot???
Please help me if you can...thank you!

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Old 07-12-2004, 09:34 PM
Ernie
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"Just Me" wrote in message
...
Ok im making tamales for the first time ever..Yes im mexican and my
family are the ones that always did the cooking and today i want to make
them or at least try. Well my question is ?
What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve
a double broiler so i wanted to see if anyone knows of a easy way to
steam these tamales to cook them?
I hope many of you will share with me how to steam them so i can
enjoy eating them..LOL
All help is appreciated.. I am using the ready made Masa and i
already cooked my meat and seasoning in the crock pot.
Hey thats an idea can i steam them in the crock Pot???
Please help me if you can...thank you!


Go to this great site. They have steaming buckets, recipes and ingredients.
http://www.mexgrocer.com/mexican-recipes.html
I am going to send you an e-mail of some of the information I got from the
internet.

Ernie


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Old 07-12-2004, 09:47 PM
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"Just Me" wrote in message
...
Ok im making tamales for the first time ever..Yes im mexican and my
family are the ones that always did the cooking and today i want to make
them or at least try. Well my question is ?
What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve
a double broiler so i wanted to see if anyone knows of a easy way to
steam these tamales to cook them?
I hope many of you will share with me how to steam them so i can
enjoy eating them..LOL
All help is appreciated.. I am using the ready made Masa and i
already cooked my meat and seasoning in the crock pot.
Hey thats an idea can i steam them in the crock Pot???
Please help me if you can...thank you!


There are several options;

Use a Spaghetti strainer propped up on a small bowl.
Use a colander sitting inside a pot with the lid on the top or foil on top.

Put a few small coins in the pot (dimes) if they are clinking there is water
in the pot.


Dimitri


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Old 07-12-2004, 09:50 PM
Dan Abel
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In article ,
(Just Me) wrote:

Ok im making tamales for the first time ever..Yes im mexican and my
family are the ones that always did the cooking and today i want to make
them or at least try. Well my question is ?
What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve



You want to buy a steamer. They are just a few bucks where you buy
kitchen stuff. The one I have at home has four legs to hold the food
above the boiling water. It has a central solid metal part with holes
that the legs are attached to, with a central metal rod that can be used
to lower the steamer into your pot. Around the edge of the solid metal
part are metal "leaves". These are interconnected so that when you move
one, they all move. You can fold them into the center for compact
storage, and then unfold them for use. When you lower the steamer into a
pot that is smaller than the steamer with the leaves extended fully, then
they partially fold to fit the pot exactly so food can't fall down into
the boiling water.

There are other designs for steamers that you can put into your existing
pans, and they come in different sizes. Any grocery or hardware store
should have these.

There are also dedicated steamers that use electricity. These have
various features and can be used for various things including rice. They
also take up space in your kitchen and cost more money. Here is an
example of one:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...97755?v=glance

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

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Old 07-12-2004, 10:09 PM
Jim Lane
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Dimitri wrote:
"Just Me" wrote in message
...

Ok im making tamales for the first time ever..Yes im mexican and my
family are the ones that always did the cooking and today i want to make
them or at least try. Well my question is ?
What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve
a double broiler so i wanted to see if anyone knows of a easy way to
steam these tamales to cook them?
I hope many of you will share with me how to steam them so i can
enjoy eating them..LOL
All help is appreciated.. I am using the ready made Masa and i
already cooked my meat and seasoning in the crock pot.
Hey thats an idea can i steam them in the crock Pot???
Please help me if you can...thank you!



There are several options;

Use a Spaghetti strainer propped up on a small bowl.
Use a colander sitting inside a pot with the lid on the top or foil on top.

Put a few small coins in the pot (dimes) if they are clinking there is water
in the pot.


Dimitri



Or a strainer as with the colandar.


jim

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Old 07-12-2004, 11:59 PM
David Wright
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:46:05 GMT, David Wright
wrote:


BTW, there is a play called LAS NUEVAS TAMALERAS being produced in San
Antonio again this Christmas season, I think for at least the third or
fourth time.

It's older than I thought ...

http://www.tamaleras-sa.com/about.asp

David
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Old 08-12-2004, 03:25 AM
Ernie
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"David Wright" wrote BTW, there is
a play called LAS NUEVAS TAMALERAS being produced in San
Antonio again this Christmas season, I think for at least the third or
fourth time.

It's older than I thought ...

http://www.tamaleras-sa.com/about.asp

David


Well it seems popular but I don't think I will go to San Antonio to see it.
Ernie


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Old 08-12-2004, 05:34 PM
Orchidguy
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I do it in an oster steamer that I bought , it works great , and a very good
investment to have in the kitchen , and also are relitivly inexpensive as
well ...
Good luck !
Todd
"Just Me" wrote in message
...
Ok im making tamales for the first time ever..Yes im mexican and my
family are the ones that always did the cooking and today i want to make
them or at least try. Well my question is ?
What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve
a double broiler so i wanted to see if anyone knows of a easy way to
steam these tamales to cook them?
I hope many of you will share with me how to steam them so i can
enjoy eating them..LOL
All help is appreciated.. I am using the ready made Masa and i
already cooked my meat and seasoning in the crock pot.
Hey thats an idea can i steam them in the crock Pot???
Please help me if you can...thank you!



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Old 08-12-2004, 05:35 PM
krusty kritter
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From: (Just Me)

What can i use to steam the tamales in to cook them..I dont havve a double

broiler so i wanted to see if anyone knows of a easy way tosteam these tamales
to cook them?

You probably didn't run across my message about how tamales were steamed in an
earth oven long ago, before colanders were invented...

Tamales were originally wrapped in corn husks or banana leaves for two reasons.
The first, and most important reason was that the tamales were steamed in the
corn husks and the cooled tamales could be carried in the corn husks...

But, when you go to a Mexican restaurant and order tamales, you don't usually
get corn husks served to you on your plate, they'd be messy and what would you
do with the greasy, chile sauce-covered corn husk at the table anyway?

I contend that corn husks are obsolete, and superfluous,
that they are mainly used so the tamales can be steamed in the traditional
manner, and wrapping tamale ingredients in corn husks is what makes home made
tamales a labor-intensive proposition...

So, I say, eliminate the corn husk!

Many years ago, my Mom (who was German/Danish) loved Mexican food and couldn't
find any tamales where we lived used to make what was called a "tamale pie"...

Authentic Mexican ingredients like masa weren't available from supermarkets
like today, Mom used what she could find...

Moist cooked corn meal mush was poured into an oven proof glass casserole dish,
the chile sauce and whatever pre-cooked meat was to be used was poured in
there, some hominy or cooked corn was added, and a top layer of moist corn meal
mush was poured on top...

The dish was *baked* in the oven for about an hour, the tamale pie was cut and
served like---pie...

I think I might make a quick tamale pie using instant masa, red chile sauce and
pork around Christmas time, but I won't need any corn husks at all, they are
superfluous...






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Old 08-12-2004, 06:02 PM
Gareth Evans
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Well, with Karaoke machines so freely available, we might as well do away
with live bands too - obselete!
And you know, they can make diamonds real cheap in a laborotory now, so I
guess all those dug up rocks should be scrapped as well!

Seriously though, whatever the original reason for the husk, it is an
intrinsic part of the dish, and adds quite a flavor. I have tried making
tamales wrapped in grease proof paper when I couln't get hold of any hojas,
but the masa lacked a whole layer of corn flavor imparted by the husk.

Yes tamales are labor intensive, but they are so much worth the effort,
especially if you can make them together with friends and family...a true
feast from assembly to consumption!!!

Tamale Pie is in itself a fabulous dish, and makes tasty supper without too
much fuss and bother, but Tamales it sure ain't!

Vivan las Hojas!!!!!!!

Gareth Rowan
www.toocountry.co.uk
{ o}===:::/TOO COUNTRY\:::==={o }




I contend that corn husks are obsolete, and superfluous,
that they are mainly used so the tamales can be steamed in the traditional
manner, and wrapping tamale ingredients in corn husks is what makes home

made
tamales a labor-intensive proposition...

So, I say, eliminate the corn husk!

Many years ago, my Mom (who was German/Danish) loved Mexican food and

couldn't
find any tamales where we lived used to make what was called a "tamale

pie"...

Authentic Mexican ingredients like masa weren't available from

supermarkets
like today, Mom used what she could find...

Moist cooked corn meal mush was poured into an oven proof glass casserole

dish,
the chile sauce and whatever pre-cooked meat was to be used was poured in
there, some hominy or cooked corn was added, and a top layer of moist corn

meal
mush was poured on top...

The dish was *baked* in the oven for about an hour, the tamale pie was cut

and
served like---pie...

I think I might make a quick tamale pie using instant masa, red chile

sauce and
pork around Christmas time, but I won't need any corn husks at all, they

are
superfluous...






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Old 08-12-2004, 06:13 PM
Ernie
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"krusty kritter"
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So, I say, eliminate the corn husk!

snip
I think I might make a quick tamale pie using instant masa, red chile

sauce and
pork around Christmas time, but I won't need any corn husks at all, they

are
superfluous...
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My cousin used to make tomale pie and it was quite good, but the corn husk
adds
flavor during steaming. I have eaten tamales made in paper wrasppers and
they
don't taste near as good.
Ernie


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Old 08-12-2004, 06:13 PM
Ernie
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"krusty kritter"
snip
So, I say, eliminate the corn husk!

snip
I think I might make a quick tamale pie using instant masa, red chile

sauce and
pork around Christmas time, but I won't need any corn husks at all, they

are
superfluous...
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^


My cousin used to make tomale pie and it was quite good, but the corn husk
adds
flavor during steaming. I have eaten tamales made in paper wrasppers and
they
don't taste near as good.
Ernie


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Old 08-12-2004, 06:32 PM
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My favorite tamale wrappings are fresh banana leaves. It imparts a unique
flavor. I was the only one, for quite a while, in our neighborhood with banana
trees and my friends from Hondorus had permission to raid them at will. Of
course, I love fresh banana blossoms, too.

Henrietta
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Old 08-12-2004, 09:13 PM
krusty kritter
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From: "Gareth Evans"

Seriously though, whatever the original reason for the husk, it is an

intrinsic part of the dish, and adds quite a flavor. I have tried making
tamales wrapped in grease proof paper when I couln't get hold of any hojas,
but the masa lacked a whole layer of corn flavor imparted by the husk.

I will have to take your word for that, Gareth, I don't plan on chewing any
dried hojas to find out what they taste like...

Back in the late 1940's or early 1950's when Mom was making tamale pie without
corn husks, we grew our own corn and I suppose that maybe Mom and Dad might
have occasionally used the dried corn husks for something else when they were
kids in the Midwest---when they ran out of pages in the Sears catalog...

My Dad told me that he used to smoke the corn silks, out behind the barn, so I
tried that and couldn't light them. He told me that they had to be *dry*. Oh,
well...

For the longest time, the only tamales I ever ate came in a can, they were
commercially produced and individually wrapped in paper...

Then I started getting bigger tamales that were also produced commercially in
the big city. They were wrapped in plastic, inside an outer plastic wrapper...

And I remember the first time I ever saw tamales that weren't wrapped in paper
or plastic. Our Mexican neighbors made them and shared them with us at
Christmastime. I wondered what was up with that inedible vegetable material
that I couldn't cut with the side of a fork...

And, there's other parts of the corn plant that *could be used* to make
tamales...

The Navajos and the Pueblo tribes of Arizona and New Mexico have a thing about
corn *pollen* in their spiritual beliefs (they deny that it's a religion), and
they throw corn pollen around under some circumstances, like at sunrise, they
throw it in all four cardinal directions...

I wonder if anybody has ever used corn pollen or corn tassels in their tamale
recipes?

The corn tassel might be like the parsley that the fry cook puts on my plate at
Denny's restaurants when I order the $2.99 bacon and eggs and pancake special
for breakfast...

I once asked the waitress what the parsley was for, and she said that some
people would get angry if the parsley was left off their plate...

Same thing with tamales. If I should ever find a piece of corn tassel in one of
my tamales, I'll know it's there for "spiritual reasons"....

But I won't eat it...




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