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Damn you mean there were none of us "NATIVE AMERICANS " here most of the
Mexican people have Native American Blood in them "Cuchulain Libby" wrote in message ... Misschef wrote: I humbly retract my previous statements regarding the lack of comparison. Misschef Apology accepted g It would interesting to investigate the heredity of those early cowboys. The towns in the Hill Country were settled by Germans, drawn by a land speculator who had a speculative investment of 300,000 acres of worthless, Indian-infested land he sold to the homefolk as a Paradise. He bought it sight unseen. Sort of like Florida swampland only prettier. The cattle coming up from the Nueces on their way to market ate all the grasses up there, leaving room for the cedar to take over. Unless the Chili Queens predate the immigrants. -Hound |
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"GEEZER" wrote in message ... Damn you mean there were none of us "NATIVE AMERICANS " here most of the Mexican people have Native American Blood in them That's a different take on chili. And one I support. The Aztlans/Aztecs had a stew...some had cocoa, some didn't. My homage to this is 'Hogan's Famous'. Includes corn, tomatoes, cocoa powder, 3 beans etc. just no potatoes. It ain't CASI-approved chili but it's damn good. -Hound |
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"Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal. As the scientific name suggests, they are sometimes placed in a group of animals called "goat antelopes" although they are neither. Other animals in this group: chamois, saiga, takin and muskox. Other than the muskox and takin none are actually related. Charlie |
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"Steve Wertz" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford" wrote: "Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal.... Sombody should have pointed this out to Brewster Higley before they made "Home on the Range" the State Song of Kansas... ;-) http://www.50states.com/songs/kansas.htm Don't get me started on their use of the word "buffalo" either - supposedly there are no buffalo in the Americas, either. -sw For there not being any, I sure have been 'buffalo'd' more times than I care to remember! Jack |
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"Jack Schidt®" wrote in message
news ![]() "Steve Wertz" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford" wrote: "Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Don't get me started on their use of the word "buffalo" either - supposedly there are no buffalo in the Americas, either. -sw For there not being any, I sure have been 'buffalo'd' more times than I care to remember! Jack I take it that is the same as what comes from the south end of a north bound bull buffalo, LOL. |
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"Jack Schidt®" wrote in message news ![]() "Steve Wertz" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford" wrote: "Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal.... Sombody should have pointed this out to Brewster Higley before they made "Home on the Range" the State Song of Kansas... ;-) http://www.50states.com/songs/kansas.htm Don't get me started on their use of the word "buffalo" either - supposedly there are no buffalo in the Americas, either. -sw For there not being any, I sure have been 'buffalo'd' more times than I care to remember! Jack I'd bet you've been buffalo'd bison of the best buffaloers around. Jack |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
wrote: "Wayne Lundberg" wrote The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal. As the scientific name suggests, they are sometimes placed in a group of animals called "goat antelopes" although they are neither. Other animals in this group: chamois, saiga, takin and muskox. Other than the muskox and takin none are actually related. And someone called *me* an obsessive fuss-budget! :-) Given the number of Antelope counties and towns, and states requiring "antelope" hunting permits, let's give Wayne a break and acknowledge that while the "Antelocapra americana" may not be the same critter as an African antelope, not many Texans are making "pronghorn" stew. Heaven knows what "Texas style" chile means. As you well know, New Mexico is the source of all authentic chile/chilli recipes and foods. With or without antelope. :-) |
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Hoss in Texas we make chili out of Chicken, opossum, rabbit, coon,
armadillo, if its meat me cook it!!! "Frogleg" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford" wrote: "Wayne Lundberg" wrote The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal. As the scientific name suggests, they are sometimes placed in a group of animals called "goat antelopes" although they are neither. Other animals in this group: chamois, saiga, takin and muskox. Other than the muskox and takin none are actually related. And someone called *me* an obsessive fuss-budget! :-) Given the number of Antelope counties and towns, and states requiring "antelope" hunting permits, let's give Wayne a break and acknowledge that while the "Antelocapra americana" may not be the same critter as an African antelope, not many Texans are making "pronghorn" stew. Heaven knows what "Texas style" chile means. As you well know, New Mexico is the source of all authentic chile/chilli recipes and foods. With or without antelope. :-) |
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"Frogleg" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford" wrote: And someone called *me* an obsessive fuss-budget! :-) Given the number of Antelope counties and towns, and states requiring "antelope" hunting permits, let's give Wayne a break and acknowledge that while the "Antelocapra americana" may not be the same critter as an African antelope, not many Texans are making "pronghorn" stew. My dear Frogleg, I wasn't criticizing Wayne. Mammalian taxonomy is one of the few things that I know something about. This gave me a chance to contribute here whilst learning from others. Mr Durrell would certainly approve! ;-) Charlie |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:00:40 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
wrote: "Frogleg" wrote On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:11 GMT, "Charles Gifford" wrote: And someone called *me* an obsessive fuss-budget! :-) Given the number of Antelope counties and towns, and states requiring "antelope" hunting permits, let's give Wayne a break and acknowledge that while the "Antelocapra americana" may not be the same critter as an African antelope, not many Texans are making "pronghorn" stew. My dear Frogleg, I wasn't criticizing Wayne. Mammalian taxonomy is one of the few things that I know something about. This gave me a chance to contribute here whilst learning from others. Mr Durrell would certainly approve! ;-) Aww, now you've hit one of my soft spots. RIP, Gerry. I *did* notice that your post was informative, not critical. However, having hunted (or at least been in the truck) around Magdalena, NM, what my companions said they were after were "antelope." I do, however, appreciate your exactitude. :-) |
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"Charles Gifford" wrote in message ink.net... "Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal. As the scientific name suggests, they are sometimes placed in a group of animals called "goat antelopes" although they are neither. Other animals in this group: chamois, saiga, takin and muskox. Other than the muskox and takin none are actually related. Charlie ================================================== ======= Oh yeah?? Well if that be true, tell me this-------------------- why would "where the deer and the ANTELOPE play" be in the words of the most popular song of the 20th Century !!!! ???? I'm talkin' Home on the Range ! McDave |
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Nixon, D on 19 Oct 2003 suggested:
"Charles Gifford" wrote in message ink.net... "Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal. As the scientific name suggests, they are sometimes placed in a group of animals called "goat antelopes" although they are neither. Other animals in this group: chamois, saiga, takin and muskox. Other than the muskox and takin none are actually related. Charlie ================================================== ======= Oh yeah?? Well if that be true, tell me this-------------------- why would "where the deer and the ANTELOPE play" be in the words of the most popular song of the 20th Century !!!! ???? I'm talkin' Home on the Range ! Because songwriters (a) are ignorant, (b) take artistic license, (c) couldn't get "goat antelopes" to fit into the rhythm and meter of the song, or (d) didn't like the way "muskox" rolled off the tongue. *grin* --Douglas |
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"Douglas S. Ladden" wrote in message . 16... Nixon, D on 19 Oct 2003 suggested: "Charles Gifford" wrote in message ink.net... "Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message ... The other comment is that, as far as I know, chili contains beef and although deer and antelope were here long before the conquest, Just a gentle correction for anyone who cares. There have never been antelope in the Americas. You are probably refering to the pronghorn - "Antelocapra americana". It is not related to antelopes nor to any living animal. As the scientific name suggests, they are sometimes placed in a group of animals called "goat antelopes" although they are neither. Other animals in this group: chamois, saiga, takin and muskox. Other than the muskox and takin none are actually related. Charlie I don't know much about these animals except nobody I know has eaten one after shooting it for a wall mount. I also know they really like Oreo cookies. I stopped somewhere on a fenceline around Post , Texas and fed Oreos to a herd of these antelopes who stopped to look at me. Really ****ed my 2 little girls off bad...they wanted the cookies for themselves. Jack |
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