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Old 17-04-2007, 03:38 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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The real deal. Prepared at Dos Caminos in NYC.
http://realmeals.tv/pro-meals.aspx?b...id=3 67269700

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Old 17-04-2007, 07:46 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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On Apr 17, 9:38 am, wrote:
The real deal. Prepared at Dos Caminos in NYC.http://realmeals.tv/pro-meals.aspx?b...d=715959423&bc...


I didn't wait for the part where he added the spam.

David

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Old 18-04-2007, 08:46 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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dtwright37 wrote:
On Apr 17, 9:38 am, wrote:
The real deal. Prepared at Dos Caminos in NYC.http://realmeals.tv/pro-meals.aspx?b...d=715959423&bc...


I didn't wait for the part where he added the spam.

David

Great site.. not! it only took 20 minutes to stream a 4 minute video.
Someone should send this guy back to culinary school so he can learn how
to remove an avocado pit the first time.
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Old 19-04-2007, 08:26 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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On Apr 18, 12:46 pm, Sonoran Dude wrote:
dtwright37 wrote:
On Apr 17, 9:38 am, wrote:
The real deal. Prepared at Dos Caminos in NYC.http://realmeals.tv/pro-meals.aspx?b...d=715959423&bc...


I didn't wait for the part where he added the spam.


David


Great site.. not! it only took 20 minutes to stream a 4 minute video.
Someone should send this guy back to culinary school so he can learn how
to remove an avocado pit the first time.


The guacamole recipe was OK, however, a molcajete is not a mixing
bowl... it's for grinding ingredients. Listening to the chef telling
that clueless bimbo that it, somehow, affects the flavor of the food
was hard to do. Frankly, my main problem, as someone who spends most
of his time in Mexico, is that in all my years in Mexico, I have never
heard a Mexican pronounce the word as "GWak-a-molie". The only way I
have ever heard it in Mexico is "wak-a-moh-lay". If you look up the
pronunciation on Google, you will see it both ways... but I have never
heard a hard "g" in a "gua" configuration in Mexico.

It reminds me of the Jack in the Box commercial where Jack calls
bruschetta "brew shetta" instead of "bruce Ketta". I don't eat any
dish in a restaurant that the chef cannot pronounce.

Git a rope.

However, out of respect for the poster... the guacamole would have
tasted fine... there are several (many) ways to make it.

Jack

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Old 19-04-2007, 10:52 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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On Apr 19, 12:26�pm, Jack Tyler wrote:

Frankly, my main problem, as someone who spends most
of his time in Mexico, is that in all my years in Mexico, I have never
heard a Mexican pronounce the word as "GWak-a-molie". *The only way I
have ever heard it in Mexico is "wak-a-moh-lay". * If you look up the
pronunciation on Google, you will see it both ways... but I have never
heard a hard "g" in a "gua" configuration in Mexico.



Guacamole: etymology: Mexican Spanish, from the Nahuatl "ahuacamOlli",
from "ahuacatl" (avocado).

Somebody guessing about how to pronounce "ahuacatl" might come up with
"ah-wha-COT-ul", but they'd be wrong.

In "ahuacatl" the final "tl" sound is more like "thluh". Can you say
"cluh" with your tongue hitting the roof of your mouth behind your
teeth? Soften and shorten the "cluh" and you have "thluh"...

The final "thluh" and "tlee" (tlii) sounds are common among Native
American languages.

A Nahuatl speaker would say "ah-wha-COT-thluh"


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Old 19-04-2007, 11:30 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, Jack Tyler wrote:


Frankly, my main problem, as someone who spends most
of his time in Mexico, is that in all my years in Mexico, I have never
heard a Mexican pronounce the word as "GWak-a-molie". The only way I
have ever heard it in Mexico is "wak-a-moh-lay". If you look up the
pronunciation on Google, you will see it both ways... but I have never
heard a hard "g" in a "gua" configuration in Mexico.
Jack


I agree. My mother spent her formative years in Mexico (but left
before I came around, dang it!) and I never heard her say that word
other than how you described it. Same for the word for water. It was
"ah-wah," not "aug-wa."

David


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Old 19-04-2007, 11:34 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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On Apr 19, 5:30 pm, dtwright37 wrote:
On Apr 19, 2:26 pm, Jack Tyler wrote:



Frankly, my main problem, as someone who spends most
of his time in Mexico, is that in all my years in Mexico, I have never
heard a Mexican pronounce the word as "GWak-a-molie". The only way I
have ever heard it in Mexico is "wak-a-moh-lay". If you look up the
pronunciation on Google, you will see it both ways... but I have never
heard a hard "g" in a "gua" configuration in Mexico.
Jack


I agree. My mother spent her formative years in Mexico (but left
before I came around, dang it!) and I never heard her say that word
other than how you described it. Same for the word for water. It was
"ah-wah," not "aug-wa."

David


P.S. She lived with her family in Wah-tah-la-HAR-ah.

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Old 20-04-2007, 04:49 PM posted to alt.food.mexican-cooking
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On 19 Apr 2007 12:26:52 -0700, Jack Tyler
wrote:



Frankly, my main problem, as someone who spends most
of his time in Mexico, is that in all my years in Mexico, I have never
heard a Mexican pronounce the word as "GWak-a-molie". The only way I
have ever heard it in Mexico is "wak-a-moh-lay". If you look up the
pronunciation on Google, you will see it both ways... but I have never
heard a hard "g" in a "gua" configuration in Mexico.


I agree, Jack - it's grating to the ears to hear something so common
badly mispronounced. But I guess it's a fact of life in the US where
many don't speak other languages - things get americanized. Someone
who speaks spanish would know how to pronounce it correctly.

It reminds me of the Jack in the Box commercial where Jack calls
bruschetta "brew shetta" instead of "bruce Ketta". I don't eat any
dish in a restaurant that the chef cannot pronounce.

Git a rope.


I live in Italy and I hear this all the time, but you can't expect
everyone to speak Italian correctly. Even though it's like the sound
of fingernails on a blackboard to me to hear it spoken incorrectly, I
can't expect everyone to know the language. BUT as you said, a chef
making an Italian dish should know how to pronounce it.

jim




 




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