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The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences stops believing you. The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun. Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night apparently. Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas. Alison wrote: This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !! Very traditional. |
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In article , Helen
McElroy wrote: The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad. The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences stops believing you. The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun. Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night apparently. Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas. Alison wrote: This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !! Very traditional. What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) L -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Lazarus Cooke wrote: In article , Helen McElroy wrote: The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad. The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences stops believing you. The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun. Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night apparently. Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas. Alison wrote: This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !! Very traditional. What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) L -- Remover the rock from the email address We eat both here regularly: There's a recipe for haggis on my web site. Look under Scottish recipes... http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Kate (Sig line AWOL!) |
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Lazarus Cooke wrote: In article , Helen McElroy wrote: The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad. The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences stops believing you. The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun. Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night apparently. Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas. Alison wrote: This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !! Very traditional. What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) L -- Remover the rock from the email address We eat both here regularly: There's a recipe for haggis on my web site. Look under Scottish recipes... http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Kate (Sig line AWOL!) |
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Lazarus Cooke muttered....
What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) While I find haggis quite palatable (and have even eaten a couple of versions I could call good, one even better), I'm not sure that it's a "people's food" at this point in the Scots' national culinary landscape. There are a number of dishes (of which haggis is one) which deserve a better fate than what likely awaits them.... Scrapple (and folks who debate the merits of a Philly Cheesesteak are unlearned barbarians likely to have never eaten good scrapple). Menudo (para la cruda) and the plainer version, simple posole, when made with "real" dry hominy. Spoonbread "Cheese Grits" (at least the souffle-ish versions, dome of which actually have leavening) TMO |
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Olivers wrote:
Lazarus Cooke muttered.... What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) While I find haggis quite palatable (and have even eaten a couple of versions I could call good, one even better), I'm not sure that it's a "people's food" at this point in the Scots' national culinary landscape. Are you based in Scotland? If not, rest assured that last time I looked, it was readily available in both supermarkets and butcher's shops, and eaten regularly. If you are, then I don't know where you are looking, but while most folk don't make there own, it seems to be eaten as regularly as Lorne saussage and butteries! Or kippers, Scotch pies and Arbroath smokies... There are a number of dishes (of which haggis is one) which deserve a better fate than what likely awaits them.... Scrapple (and folks who debate the merits of a Philly Cheesesteak are unlearned barbarians likely to have never eaten good scrapple). Menudo (para la cruda) and the plainer version, simple posole, when made with "real" dry hominy. Spoonbread "Cheese Grits" (at least the souffle-ish versions, dome of which actually have leavening) TMO One day I will save enough WW points to make cornbread... ![]() -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Kate Dicey muttered....
Are you based in Scotland? If not, rest assured that last time I looked, it was readily available in both supermarkets and butcher's shops, and eaten regularly. If you are, then I don't know where you are looking, but while most folk don't make there own, it seems to be eaten as regularly as Lorne saussage and butteries! Or kippers, Scotch pies and Arbroath smokies... While I'm in Scotland for a only few days every two years, my comparison standard of two decades back, a two month period traveling about the country left me believing that haggis (and several other traditional dishes, Scottish and Aglo-S) were rapidly reaching the state of being quaint survivors of a culture and cuisine cherished by a few and unknown to many. There was visible haggis around, but the percentage of the population who seemed to eat it regularly had diminished to tourists, traditionalists and the hardy band of folks to whom it appealed in a culinary sense. While I would be open to challenge (and gladly accept it), I would doubt whether more than 5% of the current population of Scotland would eat haggis more than once in 30 day period (or at any time other than a special celebratory occasion). Even that represents more folks than the percentage of Pennsylvanians who eat scrapple regularly. .....but maybe MickyD's will put a Haggis McMuffin up on the menu board. TMO |
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Olivers wrote:
While I would be open to challenge (and gladly accept it), I would doubt whether more than 5% of the current population of Scotland would eat haggis more than once in 30 day period So when's the last time you've eaten sausage? Roast beef? Prime rib? Liver? Kidneys? MickeyD's? Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG * * * * * * * * * * *Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed |
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Lazarus Cooke wrote:
In article , Helen McElroy wrote: The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad. The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences stops believing you. The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun. Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night apparently. Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas. Alison wrote: This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !! Very traditional. What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) L Lazarus - What's cullen skink? Peg |
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"Peggy" wrote in message ... What's cullen skink? http://www.rampantscotland.com/recip...ipe_cullen.htm -- Bob Kanyak's Doghouse http://kanyak.com |
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"Olivers" wrote in message ... Kate Dicey muttered.... Are you based in Scotland? If not, rest assured that last time I looked, it was readily available in both supermarkets and butcher's shops, and eaten regularly. If you are, then I don't know where you are looking, but while most folk don't make there own, it seems to be eaten as regularly as Lorne saussage and butteries! Or kippers, Scotch pies and Arbroath smokies... While I'm in Scotland for a only few days every two years, my comparison standard of two decades back, a two month period traveling about the country left me believing that haggis (and several other traditional dishes, Scottish and Aglo-S) were rapidly reaching the state of being quaint survivors of a culture and cuisine cherished by a few and unknown to many. There was visible haggis around, but the percentage of the population who seemed to eat it regularly had diminished to tourists, traditionalists and the hardy band of folks to whom it appealed in a culinary sense. While I would be open to challenge (and gladly accept it), I would doubt whether more than 5% of the current population of Scotland would eat haggis more than once in 30 day period (or at any time other than a special celebratory occasion). Even that represents more folks than the percentage of Pennsylvanians who eat scrapple regularly. Well, within less than 10 minutes walk of where I live* I have seen: A budget style supermarket selling haggis A frozen foods supermarket selling haggis, frozen Local corner shops selling haggis, tinned Local butcher shops selling haggis, made on the premises Two large chain supermarkets selling haggis, frozen, tinned and fresh A speciality organic shop selling, yes, organic haggis, and vegetarian haggis A vegetarian shop selling vegetarian haggis An open 24 hour corner shop that sells vegetarian haggis stuffed samosas A least three traditional chippies selling haggis suppers A chinese takeaway that sells haggis suppers A little further afield sees the pattern more or less repeated, with restaurants getting on the act. Not far from here I can get a portion of haggis pakora at an Indian restaurant. I see people buy haggis all the time. I wouldn't say it was ubiquitous or eaten every day but a "quaint survivor"? Colin L *In Glasgow, on the border between a nice part of town and a not so nice part of town |
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Peggy wrote:
Lazarus Cooke wrote: In article , Helen McElroy wrote: The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad. The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences stops believing you. The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun. Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night apparently. Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas. Alison wrote: This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !! Very traditional. What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well balanced nutritionally!) L Lazarus - What's cullen skink? Peg One of my native soups! Made with milk, smoked haddock, neeps and tatties. Meal in a bowl. -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Colin L wrote:
"Olivers" wrote in message ... Kate Dicey muttered.... Are you based in Scotland? If not, rest assured that last time I looked, it was readily available in both supermarkets and butcher's shops, and eaten regularly. If you are, then I don't know where you are looking, but while most folk don't make there own, it seems to be eaten as regularly as Lorne saussage and butteries! Or kippers, Scotch pies and Arbroath smokies... While I'm in Scotland for a only few days every two years, my comparison standard of two decades back, a two month period traveling about the country left me believing that haggis (and several other traditional dishes, Scottish and Aglo-S) were rapidly reaching the state of being quaint survivors of a culture and cuisine cherished by a few and unknown to many. There was visible haggis around, but the percentage of the population who seemed to eat it regularly had diminished to tourists, traditionalists and the hardy band of folks to whom it appealed in a culinary sense. While I would be open to challenge (and gladly accept it), I would doubt whether more than 5% of the current population of Scotland would eat haggis more than once in 30 day period (or at any time other than a special celebratory occasion). Even that represents more folks than the percentage of Pennsylvanians who eat scrapple regularly. Well, within less than 10 minutes walk of where I live* I have seen: A budget style supermarket selling haggis A frozen foods supermarket selling haggis, frozen Local corner shops selling haggis, tinned Local butcher shops selling haggis, made on the premises Two large chain supermarkets selling haggis, frozen, tinned and fresh A speciality organic shop selling, yes, organic haggis, and vegetarian haggis A vegetarian shop selling vegetarian haggis An open 24 hour corner shop that sells vegetarian haggis stuffed samosas A least three traditional chippies selling haggis suppers A chinese takeaway that sells haggis suppers A little further afield sees the pattern more or less repeated, with restaurants getting on the act. Not far from here I can get a portion of haggis pakora at an Indian restaurant. I see people buy haggis all the time. I wouldn't say it was ubiquitous or eaten every day but a "quaint survivor"? Colin L *In Glasgow, on the border between a nice part of town and a not so nice part of town And our local Sainsbury's has it here in Kent - all year round, too, not just in January! -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Opinicus wrote:
"Peggy" wrote in message ... What's cullen skink? http://www.rampantscotland.com/recip...ipe_cullen.htm The potato doesn't have to be mashed: in some areas, you drop them in in lumps and let bits disintegrate in the soup, so it thickens it and you get the lumps too. My granny used to just squeeze them a bit as she dropped them in, so the lumps were all different sizes and shapes! In some areas, diced or grated neeps are also added. It's like most other peasant recipes: a basic idea with slight regional variations. A hotel I worked in on the Fife coast did a very local variation I havent seen elswhere, made with fresh partons. After completion, it was pureed. -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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