Looking for the recipe for "pulse", the food that Daniel ate in the Old Testament
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My name is Tom. I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that Daniel ate in the Old Testament. From my research I know that it was not meat or fruit. I have searched the net and the book stores, but have not found anyone who could tell me which vegetables were used in pulse, or how it was prepared. If someone has this information and would be willing to share it with me, I would be ever so thankfull. Thank you, Tom |
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:57:08 -0500, Tom > wrote:
>Hi, > >My name is Tom. I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that >Daniel ate in the Old Testament. From my research I know that it was >not meat or fruit. I have searched the net and the book stores, but >have not found anyone who could tell me which vegetables were used in >pulse, or how it was prepared. If someone has this information and >would be willing to share it with me, I would be ever so thankfull. >Thank you, > >Tom 'Pulse' is not a recipe. It is the vegetable itself - any kind of leguminous plant such as peas, lentils and beans. Presumably Daniel would have eaten his pulses as a boiled mush, like Indian dal. |
"Tom" > wrote in message ... > Hi, > > My name is Tom. I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that > Daniel ate in the Old Testament. From my research I know that it was > not meat or fruit. I have searched the net and the book stores, but > have not found anyone who could tell me which vegetables were used in > pulse, or how it was prepared. If someone has this information and > would be willing to share it with me, I would be ever so thankfull. > Thank you, > I have no scientific or historical sources upon which to base an accurate reply, but have spent much of my life consistently understanding the term (at least to my own satifaction) as any one of a number of dried legumes, reconstutued slowly over low heat. Such dishes are found (and appear historical and literary references) all around the Mediterranean Basin from the Pillars to the Levant, in North Africa, Egypt, in the Tigris/Euphrates river networks, old Persia and throughout the Indian subcontinent. IIRC, there are a number of modern (1600-present) references to "pulse" in the framework of "dried peas". From Dhal to Hummus to Split Pea Soup to Frijoles al Charro to "Pease porridge hot, pease porridge cold, pease porridge in the pot, nine days old...", thats the best I can do..... TMO |
> I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that Daniel ate
> in the Old Testament. You aren't going to get anywhere without knowing the Hebrew word (and what it means). There is a Jewish cooking group, I think, they might know. "Pulse" in English means a legume, which in Daniel's time and place would presumably be ful medames (broad beans, field beans). But the translators might have been guessing as much as I am. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
The Hebrew word for pulse in Daniel 1:12 is
zeroa` zay-ro'-ah or zeraSon {zay-raw-ohn'}; from 2232; something sown (only in the plural), i.e. a vegetable (as food):--pulse. There is another reference to pulse in 2 Samuel 17:28, but the Hebrew word here is qaliy kaw-lee' or qaliyi {kaw-lee'}; from 7033; roasted ears of grain:--parched corn. The reference in Daniel indicates vegetables, not just one. The reference in 2 Samuel is parched corn. Thank you for your comments. I will keep looking:) Tom On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:41:46 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address > wrote: >> I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that Daniel ate >> in the Old Testament. > >You aren't going to get anywhere without knowing the Hebrew word >(and what it means). > >There is a Jewish cooking group, I think, they might know. > >"Pulse" in English means a legume, which in Daniel's time and >place would presumably be ful medames (broad beans, field beans). >But the translators might have been guessing as much as I am. > >============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== >Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 ><http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 >stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
You may be correct. I found this on the net
PULSE puls (zero'-im (Dan 1:12 margin, "herbs"), zere'onim (Dan 1:16); compare zerua`, "sowing seed" (Lev 11:37), and zeru'im, "things sown" (Isa 61:11)): (1) In Dan 1:12,16, it must mean herbs or vegetables grown from seeds; a vegetable diet is what is implied. (2) In 2 Sam 17:28, "pulse" after "parched" is not in the original, but is probably more correct than the translation in (1), as "pulse" usually implies leguminous plants, peas, beans, etc. Thank you for your comments. Tom On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:02:13 GMT, "TOliver" > wrote: > >"Tom" > wrote in message .. . >> Hi, >> >> My name is Tom. I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that >> Daniel ate in the Old Testament. From my research I know that it was >> not meat or fruit. I have searched the net and the book stores, but >> have not found anyone who could tell me which vegetables were used in >> pulse, or how it was prepared. If someone has this information and >> would be willing to share it with me, I would be ever so thankfull. >> Thank you, >> > >I have no scientific or historical sources upon which to base an accurate >reply, but have spent much of my life consistently understanding the term >(at least to my own satifaction) as any one of a number of dried legumes, >reconstutued slowly over low heat. Such dishes are found (and appear >historical and literary references) all around the Mediterranean Basin from >the Pillars to the Levant, in North Africa, Egypt, in the Tigris/Euphrates >river networks, old Persia and throughout the Indian subcontinent. > >IIRC, there are a number of modern (1600-present) references to "pulse" in >the framework of "dried peas". > >From Dhal to Hummus to Split Pea Soup to Frijoles al Charro to "Pease >porridge hot, pease porridge cold, pease porridge in the pot, nine days >old...", thats the best I can do..... > >TMO > |
I just found this on the net. It agrees with your comments
PULSE puls (zero'-im (Dan 1:12 margin, "herbs"), zere'onim (Dan 1:16); compare zerua`, "sowing seed" (Lev 11:37), and zeru'im, "things sown" (Isa 61:11)): (1) In Dan 1:12,16, it must mean herbs or vegetables grown from seeds; a vegetable diet is what is implied. (2) In 2 Sam 17:28, "pulse" after "parched" is not in the original, but is probably more correct than the translation in (1), as "pulse" usually implies leguminous plants, peas, beans, etc. Thank you for your comments. Tom On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:11:04 +1000, Richard Wright > wrote: >On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:57:08 -0500, Tom > wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>My name is Tom. I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that >>Daniel ate in the Old Testament. From my research I know that it was >>not meat or fruit. I have searched the net and the book stores, but >>have not found anyone who could tell me which vegetables were used in >>pulse, or how it was prepared. If someone has this information and >>would be willing to share it with me, I would be ever so thankfull. >>Thank you, >> >>Tom > >'Pulse' is not a recipe. It is the vegetable itself - any kind of >leguminous plant such as peas, lentils and beans. > >Presumably Daniel would have eaten his pulses as a boiled mush, like >Indian dal. |
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> My name is Tom. I am looking for a recipe for "pulse", the food that > Daniel ate in the Old Testament. From my research I know that it was > not meat or fruit. I have searched the net and the book stores, but > have not found anyone who could tell me which vegetables were used in > pulse, or how it was prepared. If someone has this information and > would be willing to share it with me, I would be ever so thankfull. "Pulse" usually in culinary circles refers to seeds from vegetables, usuallu those formed in pods, i.e beans and such. Usually in dried form. Considering what was common fare in biblical terms, and still is in the region (middle-east) my guess it woul be lentils, or broad beans. -- Waldo *** Is This A Dead Parrot I See Before Me *** To respond through email remove removespam |
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I know this is a really old thread. I found out about pulse from Don Toleman. He may be able to answer this question for you. He created some product lines around this and is a health nut. I'm not sure if you can contact him personally but he does have a website where he sells his pulse product. Might be worth a shot to hear how he discovered pulse. I saw him speak about it in the 90s. thedontolman.com I'm not sure if this is really pulse or not but it's an amazing product. Good luck. It is dried fruits and nuts some grains, poppy seeds, all dried in a special way then mixed together to form a very portable product. |
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