A Food and drink forum. FoodBanter.com

Welcome to FoodBanter.com forums which provide access to the finest food and drink related newsgroups.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most newsgroup discussions and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics to the food related newsgroups, communicate privately with other FoodBanter.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.

Go Back   Home » FoodBanter.com forum » Food and Cooking » Historic
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Historic (rec.food.historic) Discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives.

Sicilian Pizza (1955, Chicago?)



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-10-2004, 07:32 AM
Barry Popik
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Sicilian Pizza (1955, Chicago?)

I keep getting "too many posts," so I have to srop sending stuff. I'll
try again with this (sent originally to the American Dialect Society).

Barry Popik

Subj: Sicilian Pizza (1955)
Date: 10/8/2004 2:22:03 AM Eastern Standard Time
From:
Reply-to:

To:

Sent from the Internet (Details)


The NEW YORK POST on Thursday had a Columbus Day special section. In
the
discussion of all things Italian, "pizza" somehow came up.


http://specialsections.nypost.com/ne...007/p66_a3.htm
Pg. 88:
The first know (sic) pizzeria in the US opened in New York City in
1905, by
Gennaro Lombardi. Lombardi's is still going strong, on SPring Street.

Although Neapolitans were the purists, it's believed that Bologna was
the
region that started to use meat--but the Sicilian pizza is not from
Sicily at
all--it's an American invention.


Now that ProQuest has the CHICAGO TRIBUNE up to mid-1953, let's take a
search
look for "Sicilian pizza."

OED ("miserable on food") doesn't have "Sicilian" pizza? Can that be?


(PROQUEST HISTORICAL NEWSPAPERS)
Display Ad 81 -- No Title
Los Angeles Times (1886-Current File). Los Angeles, Calif.: Jan 21,
1965. p.
OC4 (1 page) :
Add zest to your meals, give the family a special treat, visit the
brand new,
so unusual bakery FRANK PANZARELLA just opened in the Magnolia Center,
Magnolia & Ball, Anaheim. Mr. Panzarella, a master baker offers
Italian, French and Sicilian breads, rolls and pastries. You must try
the delightful Sicilian
Pizza, different in shape, they're square, and certain to delight one
and all.
Open 24 hours a day, all baked each night and ready, warm from the
ovens. Free
delivery within the area. FRANK'S BAKERY, OR CALL 827-8440.


(WWW.NEWSPAPERARCHIVE.COM)
Herald Thursday, December 22, 1955 Chicago, Illinois
....Bensenville OPEN TILL MIDNIGHT Try Our SICILIAN PIZZA' CARRY OUT
PH.
BEN'S.....at the home in K I Now Serving PIZZA At MILLIE'S Green St.
at York Rd..
Pg. 69?, col. 1:
PIZZA
AT
MILLIE'S
Green St. at York Rd. in Bensenville
"Try Our Sicilian Pizza"

Daily Intelligencer/ Thursday, June 04, 1964 Doylestown/,
Pennsylvania/
....Fried Meat Balls And Mushrooms. i This PIZZA Is A Meal In Itself.
OUR
REGULAR.....The Newest TasJe BIG JUMBO FAMILY SIZE SICILIAN STYLE Can
Be Cut To
Your Order..


(I'll check the digitized CHICAGO TRIBUNE again in about a month--ed.)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-10-2004, 01:54 PM
Bob (this one)
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Barry Popik wrote:

I keep getting "too many posts," so I have to srop sending stuff.


You've posted this sort of message a few times now. From what source
do you get these notes?

I'll try again with this (sent originally to the American Dialect

Society).

Barry Popik

Subj: Sicilian Pizza (1955)
Date: 10/8/2004 2:22:03 AM Eastern Standard Time
From:
Reply-to:

To:

Sent from the Internet (Details)


The NEW YORK POST on Thursday had a Columbus Day special section. In
the discussion of all things Italian, "pizza" somehow came up.


http://specialsections.nypost.com/ne...007/p66_a3.htm
Pg. 88:
The first know (sic) pizzeria in the US opened in New York City in
1905, by Gennaro Lombardi. Lombardi's is still going strong, on SPring Street.

Although Neapolitans were the purists, it's believed that Bologna was
the region that started to use meat--but the Sicilian pizza is not from
Sicily at all--it's an American invention.


If by Sicilian pizza they mean the square, bready kind, it's most
assuredly not an American invention. My Sicilian grandmother came to
the US in 1905 with her various recipes for "sfinciuni." Square,
thick, bready pizza with various, rather spare, additions as either
toppings or elements to be included in the dough or both. It wasn't
seen as a small bread matrix to hold toppings. Rather, it was bread
with some flavoring agents for interest.

Pastorio

Now that ProQuest has the CHICAGO TRIBUNE up to mid-1953, let's take a
search look for "Sicilian pizza."

OED ("miserable on food") doesn't have "Sicilian" pizza? Can that be?


(PROQUEST HISTORICAL NEWSPAPERS)
Display Ad 81 -- No Title
Los Angeles Times (1886-Current File). Los Angeles, Calif.: Jan 21,
1965. p.
OC4 (1 page) :
Add zest to your meals, give the family a special treat, visit the
brand new, so unusual bakery FRANK PANZARELLA just opened in the Magnolia Center,
Magnolia & Ball, Anaheim. Mr. Panzarella, a master baker offers
Italian, French and Sicilian breads, rolls and pastries. You must try
the delightful Sicilian Pizza, different in shape, they're square, and certain to delight one
and all. Open 24 hours a day, all baked each night and ready, warm from the
ovens. Free delivery within the area. FRANK'S BAKERY, OR CALL 827-8440.


(WWW.NEWSPAPERARCHIVE.COM)
Herald Thursday, December 22, 1955 Chicago, Illinois
...Bensenville OPEN TILL MIDNIGHT Try Our SICILIAN PIZZA' CARRY OUT
PH.
BEN'S.....at the home in K I Now Serving PIZZA At MILLIE'S Green St.
at York Rd..
Pg. 69?, col. 1:
PIZZA AT MILLIE'S
Green St. at York Rd. in Bensenville
"Try Our Sicilian Pizza"

Daily Intelligencer/ Thursday, June 04, 1964 Doylestown/,
Pennsylvania/
...Fried Meat Balls And Mushrooms. i This PIZZA Is A Meal In Itself.
OUR REGULAR.....The Newest TasJe BIG JUMBO FAMILY SIZE SICILIAN STYLE Can
Be Cut To Your Order..

(I'll check the digitized CHICAGO TRIBUNE again in about a month--ed.)


  #3 (permalink)  
Old 17-10-2004, 02:21 PM
Barry Popik
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

The ProQuest digitization of the Chicago Tribune is now at the end of
1953, and there's no "Sicilian pizza." However, there is "pizza
Siciliana" and "pizza Sicilian style."


(PROQUEST HISTORICAL NEWSPAPERS)
Scotch Haggis Interesting--at Least to Sample; Tuesday Menu
MARY MEADE. Chicago Daily Tribune (1872-1963). Chicago, Ill.: Mar 22,
1948.
p. A7 (1 page) :
A good many of my readers are going to want this new cook book: "The
Art of
Italian Cooking," by Maria Lo Pinto ($2.75, Doubleday and Co., New
York). (...)
Among the 200 recipes in this book are such dishes as rabit--hunter's
style,
brandied duck, Sicilian tomato pie (pizza Siciliana).

Reader's $5 Favorite Recipe Takes Long Trip; Gets a Royal Reception
MARY MEADE. Chicago Daily Tribune (1872-1963). Chicago, Ill.: Jul 21,
1953.
p. A3 (1 page) :
"I also use the creamed cottage cheese for pizza Sicilian style, when
I can't
get ricotta. I roll out the pizza dough, not too thin, spread with
sauteed
onions, a thin layer of the cheese, then seasoned crushed canned
tomatoes, a
thin sprinkling of grated Parmesan or Romano cheese, oregano, and a
few drops of
oil in which a small clove of farlic has been crushed, and bake it.
This is a
rich and filling pizza, and with a tossed vegetable salad, it's a
complete
meal."
 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Watery Chicago Pizza? Alex R. Baking 5 11-05-2004 10:05 PM
Watery Chicago Pizza? Alex R. General Cooking 12 11-05-2004 10:05 PM
Pizza Wars on Travel Channel Sheryl Rosen General Cooking 4 08-12-2003 08:31 PM
Cheese Pizzas (2) Collection A1 WBarfieldsr Recipes (moderated) 0 20-10-2003 03:05 AM
Chicago thin pizza crust Randy Price General Cooking 3 15-10-2003 04:45 PM

fitness forum |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright ©2004-2008 FoodBanter.com, part of the NewsgroupBanter project.
The comments are property of their posters.
Loans - PHP Photo Gallery - Loans - Myspace Layouts - Business Credit Cards