Jimmy Tango wrote:
What do you all think of Jameson?

Vile. But I have a bottle for use in irish car bombs.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

John Gaughan wrote:
notbob wrote:

Wild Turkey is one of the great American bourbons. It blows those
other premium bourbons (Knob Creek, Basil Hayden, etc) out of the water.


I think Knob Creek is much better than Wild Turkey. It has a much more
mellow taste given the proof. But this is coming from a guy whose
favorite drink is Jack Daniels. I'm more into whiskey than bourbon.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/



Bourbon is whiskey! Not all whiskies are bourbon. They have to originate
in Bourbon county Kentucky to officially be called Bourbon.

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Rick & Cyndi wrote:
"Richard Periut" wrote in message
...
: These bourbons are aged in french oak which have been charred.
This
: imparts the smoky vanilla flavors that these premium bourbons
have.
:
: However, Knob Creek, et cetera, have nothing to envy.
:
: I had the pleasure of visiting Makers Mark in Kentucky; it's
good, but
: not up to par with the premium ones.
:
: I don't recall Makers Mark having a "premium" brand, and always
wondered
: why they don't produce one.
:
: Cigar Aficionado had an excellent review on bourbons years ago.
:
: Richard
:===========

That's interesting, about Maker's Mark. I feel just the
opposite. Of course, that's why we each have different tastes
and why there are lots of distilleries... LOL

I actually was introduced to Maker's Mark years ago (back in my
Service days) and then, several years later I dated a fellow
whose family lived in that neck of the woods. I was amazed at
how personable and friendly everyone at Maker's Mark was. Great
tour.

Now, even though I know they're different, my comment to people
trying M.M. for the first time is: If you *like* Jack Daniel's,
you'll *love* Maker's Mark. To me, YMMV, M.M. is a lot smoother
than both Jack D. and Wild Turkey. Before M.M., I was more of a
Chivas Girl... now it's pretty much just a glass of red wine or
an occasional glass of scotch with a little milk... old age, ya
know, I need my calcium. G


I hope you note that when I was refering to premiums, I meant Wild
Turkey RARE BREED (not the other stuff which I liken to moonshine.)
Also, when you refer to J. Daniels, are you talking about the refined
Gentleman Jack?

Richard

--
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beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

In Richard Periut writes:

Bourbon is whiskey! Not all whiskies are bourbon. They have to originate
in Bourbon county Kentucky to officially be called Bourbon.

Wild Turkey Bourbon is made in Anderson County, Maker's Mark in Marion
County, and Virginia Gentleman Bourbon is made in Virginia. There aren't
any active distilleries in Bourbon County, Kentucky.

Regards,
Greg
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Greg Mortensen wrote:
In Richard Periut writes:


Bourbon is whiskey! Not all whiskies are bourbon. They have to originate
in Bourbon county Kentucky to officially be called Bourbon.


Wild Turkey Bourbon is made in Anderson County, Maker's Mark in Marion
County, and Virginia Gentleman Bourbon is made in Virginia. There aren't
any active distilleries in Bourbon County, Kentucky.

Regards,
Greg

I stand corrected; I should of mentioned that this was the case back
then. Now a days, it can only be bourbon if made in Kentucky.


Please check out:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/faq.html#4 And read # 4

Regards,

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Jimmy Tango wrote:

I think Knob Creek is much better than Wild Turkey. It has a much more
mellow taste given the proof. But this is coming from a guy whose
favorite drink is Jack Daniels. I'm more into whiskey than bourbon.


What do you all think of Jameson?

Like most Irish whiskeys, I think it is underrated. To my taste, it has a
lot of the characteristics of single malt scotch but at blended whiskey
prices.

I just bought a bottle of it today. Not only do I like to drink Irish
whiskey, but I make my own Irish Cream with it aka Bailey's.

1/2 bottle Irish whiskey
1 can sweetened condensed milk
4 eggs
1 Tbsp. chocolate syrup

Mix in blender and give it a whiz.
Can be stored in the fridge for 4 days they say, but it is not likely to
last that long.

notbob wrote:
On 2003-12-06, Richard Periut wrote:

Cigar Aficionado had an excellent review on bourbons years ago.

Here you go:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/tasting/tasting0001.html

I wonder if the rick-house mentioned in the first paragraph is
the one that burned down earlier this year.

I made a mistake when I said I like Rare Breed (the author's favorite,
also). I meant WT Kentucky Spirit. Rare Breed is a blend. Kentucky
Spirit is single-barrel.

Drinking will do that to you.

--Blair
"Now where'd I put my signature?"

In Richard Periut writes:

I stand corrected; I should of mentioned that this was the case back
then. Now a days, it can only be bourbon if made in Kentucky.

That's not true, either. Bourbon is a product of the United States, and
can only be made here -- but it can be made in any state. You can read
about the labeling and advertising of distilled spirits in the Code of
Federal Regulations at http://www.access.gpo.gov ; 27CFR5, Sec 5.22
states: "That the word ''bourbon'' shall not be used to describe any
whisky or whisky-based distilled spirits not produced in the United
States."

Regan and Regan also make mention of this in "The Bourbon Companion":
"Because of a congressional proclamation issued in 1964, bourbon must be
made in the United States. But it doesn't have to be made in Bourbon
County, Kentucky (where there are no distilleries at present), or even in
the state of Kentucky."

Please check out:
http://www.straightbourbon.com/faq.html#4 And read # 4

#4 is incorrect, as the Federal Regulation doesn't prevent states other
than Kentucky from putting "Bourbon" on the bottle. (An example of this
is "Virginia Gentleman Bourbon", which is made and distilled by the A.
Smith Bowman Distillery in Virginia.)

...but in the end, who cares? As long as I have my Wild Turkey, I'm
happy.

Regards,
Greg

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levelwave wrote:
Blair P. Houghton wrote:

The universe finally conspired to place me, $23, and a
bottle of Wild Turkey 101-proof Rye in the same store.


For me it's all about the Bacarcar... mixed with a little Coke of course...

Bacarcar?

--Blair
"Shite, mon. Have another; you're drunk."

Dave Smith wrote:
"Blair P. Houghton" wrote:

The universe finally conspired to place me, $23, and a
bottle of Wild Turkey 101-proof Rye in the same store.

Isn't Wild Turkey a Bourbon whiskey?
http://www.missionliquors.com/bourbon/wild-turkey.html

It's a brand name for a number of different whiskeys.

--Blair
"Just waiting for someone to make
a Hello Kitty single-malt..."

Greg Mortensen wrote:
In Richard Periut writes:


I stand corrected; I should of mentioned that this was the case back
then. Now a days, it can only be bourbon if made in Kentucky.


That's not true, either. Bourbon is a product of the United States, and
can only be made here -- but it can be made in any state. You can read
about the labeling and advertising of distilled spirits in the Code of
Federal Regulations at http://www.access.gpo.gov ; 27CFR5, Sec 5.22
states: "That the word ''bourbon'' shall not be used to describe any
whisky or whisky-based distilled spirits not produced in the United
States."

Regan and Regan also make mention of this in "The Bourbon Companion":
"Because of a congressional proclamation issued in 1964, bourbon must be
made in the United States. But it doesn't have to be made in Bourbon
County, Kentucky (where there are no distilleries at present), or even in
the state of Kentucky."


Please check out:
http://www.straightbourbon.com/faq.html#4 And read # 4


#4 is incorrect, as the Federal Regulation doesn't prevent states other
than Kentucky from putting "Bourbon" on the bottle. (An example of this
is "Virginia Gentleman Bourbon", which is made and distilled by the A.
Smith Bowman Distillery in Virginia.)

...but in the end, who cares? As long as I have my Wild Turkey, I'm
happy.

Regards,
Greg


I'm getting conflicting advice. I'm going to check those sources.

Thanks,

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Steve Wertz wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 04:42:29 GMT, Richard Periut
wrote:

I don't recall Makers Mark having a "premium" brand, and always wondered
why they don't produce one.

What do the different colors of wax on the caps denote? Red and gold,
maybe some silver, too.

They occasionally make a special batch, but they've taken
to putting different colored wax on bottles simply for
collectibility reasons.

They've stuck pretty close to the single product, and if
they're smart they'll stick to it in the future, but you
know MBA's, they're not really smart, and they all have
something to prove that nobody was questioning in the
first place, so before long you'll probably see Maker's
Mark start putting out "single-barrel" and "founder's
reserve" labels.

--Blair
"There's better ways to lose your integrity."

Richard Periut wrote:
Bourbon is whiskey!

Correct, in the pedantic sense of the word. When I say "whiskey" I mean
"whiskey that is not also bourbon." And when I say that I prefer whiskey
over bourbon, I mean I prefer non-bourbon whiskey over bourbon whiskey.
If I mean bourbon, I say "bourbon." Otherwise I say "whiskey" and refer
to the whiskeys that are not also bourbon.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
For me it's all about the Bacarcar... mixed with a little Coke of
course...

Bacarcar?

Google found zero matches... maybe the OP can shed some light.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

John Gaughan wrote:
notbob wrote:
Wild Turkey is one of the great American bourbons. It blows those
other premium bourbons (Knob Creek, Basil Hayden, etc) out of the
water.

I think Knob Creek is much better than Wild Turkey. It has a much more
mellow taste given the proof. But this is coming from a guy whose
favorite drink is Jack Daniels. I'm more into whiskey than bourbon.

I just got gifted the last fourth of a fifth of KC, and
it's my new favorite bourbon. It's going to make me try
the rest of Beam's specialty brands (Booker Noe's and
the like).

I like the Wild Turkey 101 (in fact, I have a glass
of it next to me right now). Knob Creek is a little
more smoky. Very nice. I used to dig JD, especially as
a Jack-and-Coke. But then I discovered good booze.
Now, like McDonald's burgers, I won't waste my boozing
opportunities on Jack.

Jack isn't bourbon, by the way. Jim Beam is. Jack is
Tennessee Whiskey. They're both sour-mash corn liquor
based whiskeys. The difference, technically, is that
Tennessee Whiskey gets an extra filtering through
white-sugar-maple charcoal. Even so, there are better
Tennessees (George Dickel's, et al).

--Blair
"Mix with gusto."