"notbob" wrote in message
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On 2006-08-09, Craig Welch wrote:

I can't imagine buying any meat that is tampered with in any way.

When I buy meat, I just expect to get meat. Nothing else.

Silly you. They've been screwing with our meat for over half a century
or more.

nb

Pretty much!

kili

"TammyM" wrote in message
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On 9 Aug 2006 07:44:21 -0700, "Nancy2" wrote:


Craig Welch wrote:
Margaret Suran wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/di...=1&oref=slogin



I've never noticed those labels on Costco pork, but I'm betting that
they're injected too. Anyone know for sure?

TammyM

Most meat *is* injected. The only place we can find non-adultered meat
(leave it alone, Sheldon!) is at a local butcher or our "Dreaded Meat
Store", Feltons.

kili

One time on Usenet, said:

I watched a local news segment this morning. It disclosed the product
which colors the imitation crab we put in those California sushi rolls.
.. .It seems the product used to color, is nothing more than crushed
beetles!

It seems their now re-thinking the labeling on products, so folks
actually know!

Years ago, DH worked at a sirimi plant, where they made imitation
"krab" meat, and he told me about the beetle coloring. At first I
thought he was kidding (he's like that), but nope...

--
"Kthonian" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

One time on Usenet, Margaret Suran
said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/di...=1&oref=slogin

Pure thievery! I noticed the "deep basting" trend a few years ago,
when I realized that (around here anyway) I couldn't get dry packaged
pork spare ribs, only the brined ones. (I bitched about this in RFC.)
Soon after all the pork products in our shops were treated this way,
but I recently saw labels for "natural" style chops. I used some of
these to make aem's Tonkatsu Pork a couple of weeks ago, much better
tasting. I can't remember which was more expensive, I'll have to
check later today...

--
"Kthonian" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

"Wal-Mart, for example, says a majority of its fresh offerings are
enhanced with a 6 to 12 percent solution of water, salt, sodium
phosphate and natural flavorings."

Now there's a quality retailer known for its ethics...

The Ranger

Stopped buy meat at Wally-World a few years ago, when we figured this out.
We now get most at Whole Foods, or similar upscale places. Costs more, but
"you are what you eat"

Larry T

So what does it say? I'm probably registered on 6 different
computers, but not this one. And I refuse to go threough another
registration process.

-sw

It says meat producers are injecting our meat.

Larry T

Margaret Suran wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/di...=1&oref=slogin

That's one reason why I buy from the local, organic farmer.

-L.

notbob wrote:
On 2006-08-09, Margaret Suran wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/di...=1&oref=slogin


So, what's the problem? Drowning our meat in some kinda brine has
been all the rage around this ng for more than just awhile. Papaya
juice brines, Fat Man brines, and all manner of salty silliness. Now,
someone does it for use and we're all in a snit. The bounders!

/sarcasm mode off

nb


There is a huge problem if someone who is on a sodium free diet and
unknowingly ingests too much tampered meat. For some sodium sensitive
people, it can suddenly elevate the blood pressure and trigger a stroke.

Margaret Suran wrote in news:WmkCg.6402
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/di...=1&oref=slogin


Great!

I gave up a majority of beef in my diet for pork since there's no mad pig
disease and now this???

As if antibiotics and hormones weren't bad enough?

Thanks for the FYI, Margaret.

Andy
A no/lo-sodium fanatic with high blood pressure.

On 2006-08-09, Margaret Suran wrote:

notbob wrote:

/sarcasm mode off

There is a huge problem if someone who is on a sodium free diet....

sarcasm

n : witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm
to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid"; "Satire is a
sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's
face but their own"--Johathan Swift [syn: irony, satire, caustic remark]
^^^^^ ^^^^^^
||||| ||||||


nb

"Margaret Suran" wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/di...=1&oref=slogin

I started noticing this a couple of years ago with fresh pork products. I
bought it unwittingly on several occassions, and wondered why the pork had
an unpleasant soapy taste (to me). I finally made the connection, and saw
that one of my local supermarket chains switched over pretty much entirely
to enhanced pork. There are supermarkets that do still carry non-enhanced
pork, and big meat packing companies that still provide it to them. Hatfield
Foods and Smithfield Foods seem to offer both non-enhanced and enhanced
fresh pork, but that doesn't mean the supermarkets carry the non-enhanced
versions.

I think the phrase on the label "minimally processed, no artificial
ingredients" is an indication of meat that hasn't been injected. I knew
turkeys were injected with things for decades, as what is a self basting
bird anyway? Back in my days of deep frying turkeys, I knew to get a
minimally processed one since I was going to be doing my own injecting
(injecting a pre-injected bird is counterproductive). I think fresh turkeys
tended to be minimally processed, but frozen turkeys could be either. My
father specifically bought the minimally processed ones because of his
sodium restricted diet.

--
( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# )

notbob wrote:
On 2006-08-09, Margaret Suran wrote:


notbob wrote:


/sarcasm mode off


There is a huge problem if someone who is on a sodium free diet....


sarcasm

n : witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm
to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid"; "Satire is a
sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's
face but their own"--Johathan Swift [syn: irony, satire, caustic remark]
^^^^^ ^^^^^^
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nb
There was a disclaimer that sarcasm mode was off. As in "not on".
I am starting to believe that your name is really Bob.

On 2006-08-09, Margaret Suran wrote:

There was a disclaimer that sarcasm mode was off. As in "not on".
I am starting to believe that your name is really Bob.

Yeah, I see now where that could be taken another way. I meant off as
of the end of rant. Next time I'll go with sarcasm rant /sarcasm.

nb

Steve Wertz wrote in
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:53:20 -0500, Andy wrote:

I gave up a majority of beef in my diet for pork since there's no mad
pig disease and now this???

Mad scientists have indeed invented a porcine spongiform
encephalopathy and have successfully infected pigs with it.

-sw


Steve,

Well ain't you just a ray o' sunshine!!!

Andy

On 2006-08-09, Steve Wertz wrote:

able to justify giving the pigs the disease as long as it slows
down pork sales.

Hey, I like that. Using the same logic, I justify my carnivorous
bent by blaming herd animals for being so gosh darn edible!

"It's their own damn fault for tasting good!"

nb