A Food and drink forum. FoodBanter.com

Welcome to FoodBanter.com forums which provide access to the finest food and drink related newsgroups.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most newsgroup discussions and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics to the food related newsgroups, communicate privately with other FoodBanter.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.

Go Back   Home » FoodBanter.com forum » Food and Cooking » General Cooking
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

General Cooking (rec.food.cooking) For general food and cooking discussion. Foods of all kinds, food procurement, cooking methods and techniques, eating, etc.

Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 04:41 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Nancy Young[_1_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,846
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet


"jmcquown" wrote

I keep trying to killfile him but he just keeps coming back. He's
obsessed
with me. Must be because I'm so gorgeous; I can't think of any other
reason


I told you he has a crush on you, be nice.

nancy


  #32 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 04:41 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
wff_ng_7
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 774
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

wrote:
Just because it is a T Bone does not mean it is worth buying, even at a
low price.


But just because it is low price, does not mean that it is low quality. I
grilled one of those $4.99/pound porterhouse steaks (normally or without
club card, $10.99/pound) tonight on my charcoal grill, and certainly didn't
run into any toughness problems. Perhaps it wasn't as marbled as some steaks
might be, but that didn't affect the eating enjoyment.

Pricing is often not a quality issue. In almost every line of business,
there are deals that companies offer to bring in customers. Often these
deals are loss leaders, where they actually lose money on the sale of that
one item, in the hopes of making money on other items, or at a minimum
bringing customers in who might otherwise never visit. They may make their
money back on future sales, if not on this particular visit. Sometimes the
purpose of these deals is to drive a competitor out of business, after which
they may charge any price.

There are many reasons for low prices, and so much of the time it has little
to do with the selling of inferior merchandise.

I am quite confident in my abilities of judging quality, and I am willing to
take the occassional gamble if I am not sure. As a long term strategy, I
think I save a lot of money as opposed to discounting out of hand things
that are sold for low prices.

--
( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# )


  #33 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 05:13 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Edwin Pawlowski
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,890
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet


"jmcquown" wrote in message

Considering the cost of beef these days, just look at a ribeye. $7.99/lb
around here. Ridiculous, if you ask me.

Jill


Beef has been high for a while now. I just paid 6.89 last week for a whole
rib eye and there will be some trim from it. If I bought individual steaks,
it would have been 8.99. Just two years ago I could have bought it for
about $4.59 for the same thing.


  #34 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 05:17 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Edwin Pawlowski
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,890
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet


"Alex Rast" wrote in message

If we as consumers demand prices that are unrealistically low, the result
is inevitable - we will drive quality, not to mention a lot of good
farmers, out of the market. At the end of the day, a farmer has to make a
profit and if he has to slice his operating budgets to the bone in order
to
make ends meet the result can only be bad for both the quality of meat and
the quality of life of the farmers involved. I'd like to see more people
happy to pay $10/lb and up for better cuts of beef - because somewhere
about that sort of line a farmer can start to make a decent living while
being able to offer us a decent product.


I don't mind paying if the farmer gets his fair share. Too often the
middleman controls the price and pays the farmer squat. Seafood is good for
that also, especially lobsters where they buy and hold a million pounds and
wait for the price to go up.

Had some very good veal chops a few weeks ago at 13.00/lb.


  #35 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 05:38 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
MareCat[_1_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 216
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

"Every heart has its own song." - Rayna (3 1/2 years old)
"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message
...

"MareCat" wrote in message
...
"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message
...

In Houston we still have some pretty good deals going... Randall's
(aka
Safeway) is still promoting their Rancher's Reserve beef so they have
T-bones for $3.99/lb., brisket for .99/lb.


How is that Rancher's Reserve beef, Chris? (I don't usually shop at
Randall's.)

Mary


Mary,

I'd say adequate... we bought some of the rib eyes when they were on sale
for $3.99/lb. and did the first one without marinating, tenderizer, etc.
It
needed help... kinda tough. The second go around with the Rancher
Reserve
rib eyes we used meat tenderizer and marinated before putting on the
grill.
That time it was pretty darn good! Thus far I don't think HEB has to lose
any sleep over Rancher's Reserve vs. HEB'S prime.


I've never tried HEB's prime beef, either. How is that?

Mary


  #36 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 09:01 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blair P. Houghton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,796
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

Mike Feline wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:47:53 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

You don't live here, Swertz. You have no idea what the prices are from week
to week. Websites are dated, or didn't you know that? Meat prices are also
dated, or didn't you also know that? Sometimes I can buy PRIME rib
(standing rib roast, bone-in) for $8.99/lb from Charley's.


I hate to break it to you, but that "Prime Rib Roast" is probably
USDA grade Select or Choice beef. It's probably not USDA Prime,
not at that price.


1. The word "Prime" in "Prime Rib" doesn't mean "USDA Prime".
https://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/mgc/ins...ocs/MGC107.htm
(see item IV-G).

2. You don't want rib roast or steaks from USDA Prime
carcasses. Way too much fat. You want sirloin and strip
and t-bones and porterhouses from USDA Prime carcasses.
Basically, loin meat. The place the extra marbling makes
a positive difference. Same deal with Kobe beef. If it
isn't loin, using the name on it is just an overpriced
gimmick.

If it was, they'd have sold all their roasts
to local restaurants and not bother with the private consumer.


Only boutique supermarkets have USDA Prime beef with
any regularity.

AJ's tries to sell USDA Prime Prime Rib for like $18/lb.
Suckers aren't born, they're impulse-marketed.

Especially if they're selling USDA Select T-Bones and Porterhouses
for $7.


That's a typical price these days.

You want to tell me and everyone else otherwise?


Yep. Just did.


Not really.

--Blair
  #37 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 09:03 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Blair P. Houghton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,796
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
And much better bang for the buck, the porterhouse. Poor
neglected porterhouse... leaves more for me at about $3 USD/lb.

Jill --has knife, can debone but why bother?


Only place around here that has Porterhouse at that price is the dog food
factory.


Safeway and Fry's will do deep-discount meat a few times
a year. 4th of July weekend is a high probability for it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see that.

But what I'd do then is debone it.

Then I'd have a strip and a filet. For $3/lb plus some
fun-type elbow grease.

--Blair
  #38 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 04:39 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 207
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

In rec.food.cooking, wff_ng_7 wrote:
wrote:
Just because it is a T Bone does not mean it is worth buying, even at a
low price.


But just because it is low price, does not mean that it is low quality.


True. But no mention has yet been made taht any of this super-low priced
beef is better than USDA Select.

Perhaps it wasn't as marbled as some steaks
might be, but that didn't affect the eating enjoyment.


Of course it does.

Pricing is often not a quality issue. In almost every line of business,
there are deals that companies offer to bring in customers. Often these
deals are loss leaders, where they actually lose money on the sale of that
one item, in the hopes of making money on other items, or at a minimum
bringing customers in who might otherwise never visit. They may make their
money back on future sales, if not on this particular visit. Sometimes the
purpose of these deals is to drive a competitor out of business, after which
they may charge any price.


Granted.

--
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
--Edward R. Murrow
  #39 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 06:12 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Chris Marksberry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 264
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet


"MareCat" wrote in message
...
"Every heart has its own song." - Rayna (3 1/2 years old)
"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message
...

"MareCat" wrote in message
...
"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message
...

In Houston we still have some pretty good deals going... Randall's
(aka
Safeway) is still promoting their Rancher's Reserve beef so they have
T-bones for $3.99/lb., brisket for .99/lb.

How is that Rancher's Reserve beef, Chris? (I don't usually shop at
Randall's.)

Mary


Mary,

I'd say adequate... we bought some of the rib eyes when they were on

sale
for $3.99/lb. and did the first one without marinating, tenderizer, etc.
It
needed help... kinda tough. The second go around with the Rancher
Reserve
rib eyes we used meat tenderizer and marinated before putting on the
grill.
That time it was pretty darn good! Thus far I don't think HEB has to

lose
any sleep over Rancher's Reserve vs. HEB'S prime.


I've never tried HEB's prime beef, either. How is that?

Mary



Mary,

Very nice prime at HEB, but (not surprisingly) quite pricey if it's not on
sale. If they have a Wegman's (do they?) in Baltimore you shouldn't be
hurting though. Hope you keep in touch once you move!

Chris in Pearland, TX


  #40 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2006, 09:36 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
MareCat[_1_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 216
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message
...

"MareCat" wrote in message
...

I've never tried HEB's prime beef, either. How is that?

Mary



Mary,

Very nice prime at HEB, but (not surprisingly) quite pricey if it's not on
sale. If they have a Wegman's (do they?) in Baltimore you shouldn't be
hurting though.


I read that there's going to be a Wegman's opening up near where we'll be
living. I love Wegman's! Been to ones in Corning, NY and in Bethlehem, PA
(where my brother lives).


Hope you keep in touch once you move!

Chris in Pearland, TX


I will! And I'll still lurk on Houston.eats...

Mary


  #41 (permalink)  
Old 06-07-2006, 04:35 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Christine Dabney
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,147
Default Bone In T-bone by OmManiPadmeOmelet

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:28:12 GMT, Steve Wertz
wrote:

All the HEB's in Austin carry USDA Prime strips and ribeyes
($11-$14/lb), and sometimes lesser, non-primal cuts. They are
not a boutique chain - they cater to everyone, rich and poor.


Same as Howe's markets in the LA area. They often have primal cuts
and they have a great reputation for really good meat....

They are not a boutique grocery chain..but a regular neighborhood
grocery.

Now, here in Albuquerque, I am trying to find a market that has
outstanding meat. There is a two market "chain" here that is called
Kellers, but I haven't been in there yet. From their website, it
seems more upscale. That will do in a pinch, but I would love to find
a general market that has a good meat department.

I haven't tried the local carnecerias yet, some of which have ads on
their storefronts of having game, and unsual meat items.

Christine
 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Minestrone Soup with ham bone and pig skin. Pandora General Cooking 1 28-11-2005 10:36 PM
Soy protein cuts bone fracture risk -study", Reuters UK Beach Runner Vegan 6 16-09-2005 07:10 AM
The dairy debate: Does milk build stronger bones? MrPepper11 Vegan 34 21-03-2005 03:00 AM
upton customer service + chatsford bone china pot--A+ Frank & Renee Tea 4 31-01-2005 01:32 AM
boneless skinless? or bone in and with skin? bluxxxebowxxxling@yahoo.ca General Cooking 34 03-08-2004 07:00 PM

fitness forum |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright ©2004-2008 FoodBanter.com, part of the NewsgroupBanter project.
The comments are property of their posters.
Debt Help - Debt Help - Electronics - Advertising - Mortgages