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"jmcquown" wrote I keep trying to killfile him but he just keeps coming back. He's obsessed with me. Must be because I'm so gorgeous; I can't think of any other reason ![]() I told you he has a crush on you, be nice. nancy |
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Just because it is a T Bone does not mean it is worth buying, even at a low price. But just because it is low price, does not mean that it is low quality. I grilled one of those $4.99/pound porterhouse steaks (normally or without club card, $10.99/pound) tonight on my charcoal grill, and certainly didn't run into any toughness problems. Perhaps it wasn't as marbled as some steaks might be, but that didn't affect the eating enjoyment. Pricing is often not a quality issue. In almost every line of business, there are deals that companies offer to bring in customers. Often these deals are loss leaders, where they actually lose money on the sale of that one item, in the hopes of making money on other items, or at a minimum bringing customers in who might otherwise never visit. They may make their money back on future sales, if not on this particular visit. Sometimes the purpose of these deals is to drive a competitor out of business, after which they may charge any price. There are many reasons for low prices, and so much of the time it has little to do with the selling of inferior merchandise. I am quite confident in my abilities of judging quality, and I am willing to take the occassional gamble if I am not sure. As a long term strategy, I think I save a lot of money as opposed to discounting out of hand things that are sold for low prices. -- ( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# ) |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message Considering the cost of beef these days, just look at a ribeye. $7.99/lb around here. Ridiculous, if you ask me. Jill Beef has been high for a while now. I just paid 6.89 last week for a whole rib eye and there will be some trim from it. If I bought individual steaks, it would have been 8.99. Just two years ago I could have bought it for about $4.59 for the same thing. |
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"Alex Rast" wrote in message If we as consumers demand prices that are unrealistically low, the result is inevitable - we will drive quality, not to mention a lot of good farmers, out of the market. At the end of the day, a farmer has to make a profit and if he has to slice his operating budgets to the bone in order to make ends meet the result can only be bad for both the quality of meat and the quality of life of the farmers involved. I'd like to see more people happy to pay $10/lb and up for better cuts of beef - because somewhere about that sort of line a farmer can start to make a decent living while being able to offer us a decent product. I don't mind paying if the farmer gets his fair share. Too often the middleman controls the price and pays the farmer squat. Seafood is good for that also, especially lobsters where they buy and hold a million pounds and wait for the price to go up. Had some very good veal chops a few weeks ago at 13.00/lb. |
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"Every heart has its own song." - Rayna (3 1/2 years old)
"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message ... "MareCat" wrote in message ... "Chris Marksberry" wrote in message ... In Houston we still have some pretty good deals going... Randall's (aka Safeway) is still promoting their Rancher's Reserve beef so they have T-bones for $3.99/lb., brisket for .99/lb. How is that Rancher's Reserve beef, Chris? (I don't usually shop at Randall's.) Mary Mary, I'd say adequate... we bought some of the rib eyes when they were on sale for $3.99/lb. and did the first one without marinating, tenderizer, etc. It needed help... kinda tough. The second go around with the Rancher Reserve rib eyes we used meat tenderizer and marinated before putting on the grill. That time it was pretty darn good! Thus far I don't think HEB has to lose any sleep over Rancher's Reserve vs. HEB'S prime. I've never tried HEB's prime beef, either. How is that? Mary |
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Mike Feline wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:47:53 -0500, jmcquown wrote: You don't live here, Swertz. You have no idea what the prices are from week to week. Websites are dated, or didn't you know that? Meat prices are also dated, or didn't you also know that? Sometimes I can buy PRIME rib (standing rib roast, bone-in) for $8.99/lb from Charley's. I hate to break it to you, but that "Prime Rib Roast" is probably USDA grade Select or Choice beef. It's probably not USDA Prime, not at that price. 1. The word "Prime" in "Prime Rib" doesn't mean "USDA Prime". https://www.ams.usda.gov/lsg/mgc/ins...ocs/MGC107.htm (see item IV-G). 2. You don't want rib roast or steaks from USDA Prime carcasses. Way too much fat. You want sirloin and strip and t-bones and porterhouses from USDA Prime carcasses. Basically, loin meat. The place the extra marbling makes a positive difference. Same deal with Kobe beef. If it isn't loin, using the name on it is just an overpriced gimmick. If it was, they'd have sold all their roasts to local restaurants and not bother with the private consumer. Only boutique supermarkets have USDA Prime beef with any regularity. AJ's tries to sell USDA Prime Prime Rib for like $18/lb. Suckers aren't born, they're impulse-marketed. Especially if they're selling USDA Select T-Bones and Porterhouses for $7. That's a typical price these days. You want to tell me and everyone else otherwise? Yep. Just did. Not really. --Blair |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message And much better bang for the buck, the porterhouse. Poor neglected porterhouse... leaves more for me at about $3 USD/lb. Jill --has knife, can debone but why bother? Only place around here that has Porterhouse at that price is the dog food factory. Safeway and Fry's will do deep-discount meat a few times a year. 4th of July weekend is a high probability for it. I wouldn't be surprised to see that. But what I'd do then is debone it. Then I'd have a strip and a filet. For $3/lb plus some fun-type elbow grease. --Blair |
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In rec.food.cooking, wff_ng_7 wrote:
wrote: Just because it is a T Bone does not mean it is worth buying, even at a low price. But just because it is low price, does not mean that it is low quality. True. But no mention has yet been made taht any of this super-low priced beef is better than USDA Select. Perhaps it wasn't as marbled as some steaks might be, but that didn't affect the eating enjoyment. Of course it does. Pricing is often not a quality issue. In almost every line of business, there are deals that companies offer to bring in customers. Often these deals are loss leaders, where they actually lose money on the sale of that one item, in the hopes of making money on other items, or at a minimum bringing customers in who might otherwise never visit. They may make their money back on future sales, if not on this particular visit. Sometimes the purpose of these deals is to drive a competitor out of business, after which they may charge any price. Granted. -- A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. --Edward R. Murrow |
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"MareCat" wrote in message ... "Every heart has its own song." - Rayna (3 1/2 years old) "Chris Marksberry" wrote in message ... "MareCat" wrote in message ... "Chris Marksberry" wrote in message ... In Houston we still have some pretty good deals going... Randall's (aka Safeway) is still promoting their Rancher's Reserve beef so they have T-bones for $3.99/lb., brisket for .99/lb. How is that Rancher's Reserve beef, Chris? (I don't usually shop at Randall's.) Mary Mary, I'd say adequate... we bought some of the rib eyes when they were on sale for $3.99/lb. and did the first one without marinating, tenderizer, etc. It needed help... kinda tough. The second go around with the Rancher Reserve rib eyes we used meat tenderizer and marinated before putting on the grill. That time it was pretty darn good! Thus far I don't think HEB has to lose any sleep over Rancher's Reserve vs. HEB'S prime. I've never tried HEB's prime beef, either. How is that? Mary Mary, Very nice prime at HEB, but (not surprisingly) quite pricey if it's not on sale. If they have a Wegman's (do they?) in Baltimore you shouldn't be hurting though. Hope you keep in touch once you move! Chris in Pearland, TX |
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"Chris Marksberry" wrote in message
... "MareCat" wrote in message ... I've never tried HEB's prime beef, either. How is that? Mary Mary, Very nice prime at HEB, but (not surprisingly) quite pricey if it's not on sale. If they have a Wegman's (do they?) in Baltimore you shouldn't be hurting though. I read that there's going to be a Wegman's opening up near where we'll be living. I love Wegman's! Been to ones in Corning, NY and in Bethlehem, PA (where my brother lives). Hope you keep in touch once you move! Chris in Pearland, TX I will! And I'll still lurk on Houston.eats... Mary |
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:28:12 GMT, Steve Wertz
wrote: All the HEB's in Austin carry USDA Prime strips and ribeyes ($11-$14/lb), and sometimes lesser, non-primal cuts. They are not a boutique chain - they cater to everyone, rich and poor. Same as Howe's markets in the LA area. They often have primal cuts and they have a great reputation for really good meat.... They are not a boutique grocery chain..but a regular neighborhood grocery. Now, here in Albuquerque, I am trying to find a market that has outstanding meat. There is a two market "chain" here that is called Kellers, but I haven't been in there yet. From their website, it seems more upscale. That will do in a pinch, but I would love to find a general market that has a good meat department. I haven't tried the local carnecerias yet, some of which have ads on their storefronts of having game, and unsual meat items. Christine |
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