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Old 29-09-2003, 07:53 AM
lea
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
(HarryD7521) wrote:

What is the difference between Jelly and jam?
P.S. If possible, please reply by E-mail.
Thanks, Harry


Jelly is made from the juice of the fruit; jam is made from the
crushed fruit. Preserves also contain pieces of fruit -- properly
done, the pieces are whole (if small enough) or uniformly cut to
size; preserves are more pourable than spreadable. Jam is more
spreadable than pourable. Conserves are first cousin to jam, often
with raisins and/or nuts in them. Fruit butter is the pureed pulp of
the fruit, thickened by slow cooking to a spreadable consistency.
Marmalades are generally citrus products and contain slivers of the
citrus-used peel. Topping is what we call jam that didn't set; syrup
is what we call jelly that didn't jel. "-)


I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold dessert
popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream. Jam is a conserve you
might spread on toast or a sandwich.

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Old 29-09-2003, 12:48 PM
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"lea" wrote in
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I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold
dessert popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream. Jam is a
conserve you might spread on toast or a sandwich.


So mint jelly served with lamb and mutton usually (not mint sauce). Would
be eaten as a dessert?
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Old 29-09-2003, 01:49 PM
Greg Zywicki
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"lea" wrote in message ...

I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold dessert
popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream.


Hold on here - your kids eat Ice Cream and gellatin together?

And to think your folk criticize peanut butter and jam sandwiches.

Greg Zywicki
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Old 29-09-2003, 02:28 PM
Wayne Boatwright
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peecee wrote in
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|| peecee wrote in
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|| || In article ,
|| ||
(HarryD7521) wrote:
|| ||
|| || What is the difference between Jelly and jam?
|| || P.S. If possible, please reply by E-mail.
|| || Thanks, Harry
|| ||
|| || Jelly is made from the juice of the fruit; jam is made from
|| || the crushed fruit. Preserves also contain pieces of fruit --
|| || properly done, the pieces are whole (if small enough) or
|| || uniformly cut to size; preserves are more pourable than
|| || spreadable. Jam is more spreadable than pourable. Conserves
|| || are first cousin to jam, often with raisins and/or nuts in
|| || them. Fruit butter is the pureed pulp of the fruit, thickened
|| || by slow cooking to a spreadable consistency. Marmalades are
|| || generally citrus products and contain slivers of the
|| || citrus-used peel. Topping is what we call jam that
|| || didn't set; syrup is what we call jelly that didn't jel. "-)
|| ||
|| Country specific, of course.
|| In some parts of the world, Jelly is what Americans often refer
|| to a Jell-o.
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|| Yes, I understand that, but what do those same folks call "jelly"?
|| Curious...

Jelly, we call jelly. (Gelatine desert)
Jam, we call jam. (Spread it on toast, cake etc)
Preserves we call preserve. Not usually pourable.(See "Jam" - not to
be confused with preserved fruit.)
Conserves, we call conserves. rarely contain (if ever?) nuts. (see
jam). Fruit butter, we call fruit butter - lemon butter, etc, although
I have also heard it referred to as lemon curd.
Marmalade we call marmalade, (see jam)
Topping is something used on ice cream or a desert in one context
(runny or firm, but not something that failed to set). Or, something
may be used *as* a topping, ie "Use Jam as a topping" etc.
Syrup is a totally different thing, a runny liquid, fruit or otherwise
based, loaded with copious amounts of sugar, and mush sweeter than
Jams or preserves etc.


I confess that I'm still confused on the "jelly" issue.

In the US, "jelly" is *not* a gelatin product. It is a clear fruit
product made from fruit juice, sugar, and often, added pectin. The end
result is clear, spoonable, and spreadable, and most often used to spread
on toast.

Do other countries not have this? It seems we agree on jam, preserves,
conserves, marmalades, toppings, and syrups. So far, no one has really
mentioned the equivalent of "jelly".

Wayne

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Old 29-09-2003, 10:24 PM
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:28:18 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

I confess that I'm still confused on the "jelly" issue.

In the US, "jelly" is *not* a gelatin product. It is a clear fruit
product made from fruit juice, sugar, and often, added pectin. The end
result is clear, spoonable, and spreadable, and most often used to spread
on toast.

Do other countries not have this? It seems we agree on jam, preserves,
conserves, marmalades, toppings, and syrups. So far, no one has really
mentioned the equivalent of "jelly".

Wayne



Yeah we have jelly like that in Sweden. (Gelé). We make it from
apples, currants (very popular), rowanberries or cranberries.
It´s served with meat and potatoes or similar.

Jam we make from lingonberries to be served in a similiar way. All
other jams are served with sweet things/deserts/baked goods.




/Erika

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Then for then years you try to be as little as your parents as possible.
Then you gradually change in to them.
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Old 29-09-2003, 11:19 PM
Craig L.
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"Hahabogus" wrote in message
. 1...
"lea" wrote in
:

I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold
dessert popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream. Jam is a
conserve you might spread on toast or a sandwich.


So mint jelly served with lamb and mutton usually (not mint sauce). Would
be eaten as a dessert?


In Australia, Jelly is also a clear spoonable conserve that can be served
with meat etc as in the case of mint jelly or spread on toast as in the case
of crab-apple jelly or quince jelly. However Lea is also correct jelly is
mostly a cold, wobbly dessert served with icecream.

Craig L.


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Old 30-09-2003, 06:14 AM
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Greg Zywicki saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us
all about it on 29 Sep 2003 05:49:14 -0700:

"lea" wrote in message ...

I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold dessert
popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream.


Hold on here - your kids eat Ice Cream and gellatin together?


And what's wrong with that? Jelly by itself is rather boring unless
you stick something in it (frog in a pond anyone?)... but jelly and
icecream is a timehonoured tradition! We always have it at Christmas
for the people who don't like plum pudding.
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Old 30-09-2003, 10:31 AM
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Greg Zywicki wrote:
"lea" wrote ...

I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold
dessert popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream.


Hold on here - your kids eat Ice Cream and gellatin together?


1. no kids
2. Jelly, not 'gellatin'


And to think your folk criticize peanut butter and jam sandwiches.


Understandably so.
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Old 30-09-2003, 10:33 AM
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Kajikit wrote:
Greg Zywicki told us:
"lea" wrote ...

I don't know where Harry is from, but in Australia, Jelly is a cold
dessert popular with kids, and often eaten with icecream.


Hold on here - your kids eat Ice Cream and gellatin together?


And what's wrong with that? Jelly by itself is rather boring unless
you stick something in it (frog in a pond anyone?)... but jelly and
icecream is a timehonoured tradition! We always have it at Christmas
for the people who don't like plum pudding.


I like it in trifle .. some people like jam, but ... mmm ... jel-ly ...

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Old 30-09-2003, 10:39 AM
lea
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:


I confess that I'm still confused on the "jelly" issue.

In the US, "jelly" is *not* a gelatin product. It is a clear fruit
product made from fruit juice, sugar, and often, added pectin. The
end result is clear, spoonable, and spreadable, and most often used
to spread on toast.

Do other countries not have this?


I'm not a big one for the "jam" aisle at the Supermarket, but I believe: no.
It's something I shy away from in the States too - no nutritional value. If
you want something on your toast, at least put on some fruit chunk and seed


Me, I prefer a savoury spread ... sliced fresh tomatoes with S&P, or the
universally hated Vegemite ( except for here , so perhaps I can't be
pointing the finger at 'good taste'


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Old 30-09-2003, 11:47 AM
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In article ,
Wayne Boatwright wrote:

In the US, "jelly" is *not* a gelatin product. It is a clear fruit
product made from fruit juice, sugar, and often, added pectin. The end
result is clear, spoonable, and spreadable, and most often used to spread
on toast.

Do other countries not have this? It seems we agree on jam, preserves,
conserves, marmalades, toppings, and syrups. So far, no one has really
mentioned the equivalent of "jelly".


I think some of it is a spelling difference. "Jell-O" is a brand name
for gelatine desserts. Knox sells unflavored gelatin. If you check the
snack aisle of your favorite grocery store, you'll see several brands of
"gels" (gelatine that is altered to not require refrigeration, as Jell-O
and other brands do). "G", "J"; not much difference.

sd
 




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