On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:30:07 -0500, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:55:26 GMT, Doug Kanter wrote:

Yeah...the grater, after cheese, is interesting. I rinse in the coldest
water possible, with the disposal running. If it's not time to run the
dishwasher, I use a long handle stiff brush to clean it immediately. My ex,
on the other hand, would leave bits of cheese stuck to it, fill the sink
with hot water, and add all the dishes with the grater. This ensured that
there's be melted cheese stuck to everything, instead of just the grater.

Sounds like somebody needs a new grater. I've got 3-4 and I only
have trouble with cheese sticking to one of them. The grater is
the one thing I always wash right away. I usually use the hand
held flat ones rather than the cone.

I'm having trouble figuring out why you all have problems with cheese
sticking to your graters.

When I grate cheese, I bang the grater (it's a box grater) a couple of
times to knock off all the stuck bits, then I pop the thing in the
dishwasher. It comes out clean as a whistle every time.

Am I doing something wrong?

Jo Anne

Serene wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:08:06 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:

Some dishes, though, require an inordinant number of dirty dishes
and utensils for what they are. Macaroni and cheese, for pete's
sake, the place is a wreck by the time I'm done. From the grater
to the blender to the measuring cups to pots, gad, it's just
mac n cheese, not coq au vin or anything.

Grater, pot, wooden spoon. That's about it for me with mac-and-cheese,
and a baking dish if I bake it.

And yes, I mean from scratch.

serene

I use more that that simply because I make a white sauce in which to melt
the cheese(s) rather than just stir in grated cheese. So, there's the pasta
pot. The grater. The strainer for the cooked macaroni. Back into the
original pot to mix with the cheese sauce. But after I stir the cheese
sauce into the cooked macaroni, I do always bake it. So there's a baking
pan. The only thing I might get away with calling the sole utensil during
this extravaganza is one wooden spoon and the strainer for the noodles

Jill

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
I don't bake Macaroni and cheese. Never saw the point in it.
But then, I really don't like using my oven much.
Just a personal preference.

Om

Well, of course it is! But there is nothing like the nice crispy bits of
browned cheese on top of a baked mac & cheese 'casserole'. And yes,
sweetie, we know lately you'd deep-fry mac & cheese if it were possible! LOL

Jill

"Jo Anne Slaven" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:30:07 -0500, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:55:26 GMT, Doug Kanter wrote:

Yeah...the grater, after cheese, is interesting. I rinse in the coldest
water possible, with the disposal running. If it's not time to run the
dishwasher, I use a long handle stiff brush to clean it immediately. My
ex,
on the other hand, would leave bits of cheese stuck to it, fill the sink
with hot water, and add all the dishes with the grater. This ensured
that
there's be melted cheese stuck to everything, instead of just the
grater.

Sounds like somebody needs a new grater. I've got 3-4 and I only
have trouble with cheese sticking to one of them. The grater is
the one thing I always wash right away. I usually use the hand
held flat ones rather than the cone.

I'm having trouble figuring out why you all have problems with cheese
sticking to your graters.

When I grate cheese, I bang the grater (it's a box grater) a couple of
times to knock off all the stuck bits, then I pop the thing in the
dishwasher. It comes out clean as a whistle every time.

Am I doing something wrong?

Jo Anne

You're guilty of grater abuse!

Steve Wertz wrote:
On 28 Apr 2006 08:38:23 -0700, OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

If I grate my own cheese, the box grater is cleaned immediately with a
brush and hot soapy water. It only takes a few seconds!

Still no luck with your news server?

-sw

Nope. Not yet.
They deny blocking me at the server.

Aren't they supposed to inform you if they do?

Om

Doug Kanter wrote:

"you I imagine"?

Imagination can run rampant. smirk


All your base are belong to us.

Acid is prefarable.
More tart.
Like me.

Om


http://www.wimp.com/basetwo/

That was scary.

Om

Steve Wertz wrote:
On 28 Apr 2006 08:31:30 -0700, OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

Om - Once again reduced to using Google groups so I won't be around
much until I get this computer straightened out. sigh

I still think it's your news server. Two different news readers
and they both give no errors when you post, they just never show
up. Unless you're having other problems with your computer, I'd
bet it's your news server (blocking you for posting that pizza
pic of patches).

:-

-sw

The computer has been a bit slow but other than that....
All the programs are still working.

As for Patches... snort I pretty well stayed out of that one!
I felt sorry for her if anything.

Om

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
oups.com...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"you I imagine"?

Imagination can run rampant. smirk


All your base are belong to us.

Acid is prefarable.
More tart.
Like me.

Om


http://www.wimp.com/basetwo/

That was scary.

Om


HUG!
It's from some sort of video game whose language was translated (badly,
obviously) by its Japanese authors.

jmcquown wrote:
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
I don't bake Macaroni and cheese. Never saw the point in it.
But then, I really don't like using my oven much.
Just a personal preference.

Om

Well, of course it is! But there is nothing like the nice crispy bits of
browned cheese on top of a baked mac & cheese 'casserole'. And yes,
sweetie, we know lately you'd deep-fry mac & cheese if it were possible! LOL

Jill

Nah...
just the cheese. G

And that I can do. Just have not done it yet!

Today's experiment was yellow and zuchinni squash, wetted then dredged
in spiced corn starch.

Om ;-d

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:38:00 -0500, "jmcquown"
wrote:

Serene wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:08:06 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:

Some dishes, though, require an inordinant number of dirty dishes
and utensils for what they are. Macaroni and cheese, for pete's
sake, the place is a wreck by the time I'm done. From the grater
to the blender to the measuring cups to pots, gad, it's just
mac n cheese, not coq au vin or anything.

Grater, pot, wooden spoon. That's about it for me with mac-and-cheese,
and a baking dish if I bake it.

And yes, I mean from scratch.

serene

I use more that that simply because I make a white sauce in which to melt
the cheese(s) rather than just stir in grated cheese. So, there's the pasta
pot. The grater. The strainer for the cooked macaroni.

Oops, I forgot the strainer. I leave the mac in the strainer while I
whip up the cheese sauce.

serene

"Serene" wrote

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:38:00 -0500, "jmcquown"
wrote:

Serene wrote:

Grater, pot, wooden spoon. That's about it for me with mac-and-cheese,
and a baking dish if I bake it.

And yes, I mean from scratch.

I use more that that simply because I make a white sauce in which to melt
the cheese(s) rather than just stir in grated cheese. So, there's the
pasta
pot. The grater. The strainer for the cooked macaroni.

Oops, I forgot the strainer. I leave the mac in the strainer while I
whip up the cheese sauce.

The blender to pulverize the bread into crumbs and the frying
pan to saute them with butter. The measuring cup I use to heat
the milk in microwave for the white sauce. etc.

nancy

"jmcquown" wrote in message
. ..
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
I don't bake Macaroni and cheese. Never saw the point in it.
But then, I really don't like using my oven much.
Just a personal preference.

Om

Well, of course it is! But there is nothing like the nice crispy bits of
browned cheese on top of a baked mac & cheese 'casserole'. And yes,
sweetie, we know lately you'd deep-fry mac & cheese if it were possible!
LOL

Jill


Oh, it's possible. Chill the mac'n cheese, and cut it into squares. Dredge
in flour, dip in eggs, and coat with breadcrumbs/cracker crumbs/whatever.
Deep fry. Seriously. It works. Saw it on Good Eats. Tried it. Not bad, but I
don't imagine it's something I'd make on a regular basis.

Donna

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Nancy Young" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

Some dishes, though, require an inordinant number of dirty dishes
and utensils for what they are. Macaroni and cheese, for pete's
sake, the place is a wreck by the time I'm done. From the grater
to the blender to the measuring cups to pots, gad, it's just
mac n cheese, not coq au vin or anything.

Yeah...the grater, after cheese, is interesting. I rinse in the coldest
water possible, with the disposal running. If it's not time to run the
dishwasher, I use a long handle stiff brush to clean it immediately. My
ex, on the other hand, would leave bits of cheese stuck to it, fill the
sink with hot water, and add all the dishes with the grater. This
ensured that there's be melted cheese stuck to everything, instead of
just the grater.

(laugh) That's funny. I imagine everyone has their own irritating
habits in the kitchen. Well, except me, of course. Heh. I've given
up on being able to trust the dishtowel as being clean. I have to get
a clean one every time. This is because someone learned at his mother's
knee that if water gets on the floor, just grab a dishtowel and mop it
up. He doesn't even know he's doing it. grrrr Let it slide, toss it in
the laundry if you catch him. And never trust an unattended dishtowel.

nancy


My mother in law had an interesting habit that I had to help her break,
before it became necessary to break her arm. If there were crumbs on the
counter, she'd brush them onto the floor. "Crumbs" were blindly defined as
pretty much anything, though. Could be bits of grated cheese, garlic
skins, fresh herbs - any kind of residue from whatever was being dealt
with at the time. Her kitchen reflected the results of years of doing
this.

You can probably imagine what it was like trying to put an end to this,
maintaining a balance between the woman needing to be killed, but not
****ing off her daughter. Finally, she did it one day when we had 20
people coming over for dinner and I was at the limit of my patience with
the preparations already. I ramped up the "stop that" request to about 120
decibels. I swear, her hair actually moved backward, but she stopped.

Having dogs in the house, they assume that anything that falls on the floor
is edible, so crumbs aren't an issue. One time I dropped a blob of spaghetti
sauce on one of the throw rugs and I thought that after I was done cooking,
I'd toss it on the wash. As I'm working I hear the dog licking the rug, and
I'm thinking that this will get the chunky residue off, no problem. She
didn't walk away until the spot was completely gone. No trace.

Now if only I could find a way to get them to clean all of the floors and
rugs like that, I'd be in business.

Donna

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Nancy Young" wrote:

don't clean up after dinner. I clean up later or even the next day.
Right
after I eat is not when I feel like messing around with dirty dishes and
pots. Bad habit, but I don't see it changing.

nancy

Why is it a bad habit? Whose business is it when or if you clean up
your dirty dishes? I don't like guests "helping" me with dishes or
clearing the table after a meal. I have my own system (I use the term
loosely). I don't like people messing with it.

Rob and I often clean up way later and rehash the evening's events and
conversations. Nice. When it's him and me, he clears the table and I
usually load the dishwasher because he doesn't do it to my satisfaction.

He empties the dishwasher, too. And, in theory, puts the dishes away.
In theory. Why won't he put the pots and pans and food storage items
away? I'll be goddamned if I know. I think it's a passive aggressive
move on his part. My theory is that he's trying to **** me off into
complaining about his efficiency and helpfulness so that he can say,
"FINE! Then YOU do it!" He's trying to get fired from the task. It
ain't gonna happen. I haven't been married to him for 40 years for
nothing.

When we lived near DH's family, if I had a bunch of them over, they'd all
pile into the kitchen afterward to help clean up. Before I had a dishwasher,
this meant that somebody would wash, somebody else would dry and another
would put things away. For weeks afterward, I'd end up looking for some
utensil and have to search all over for it, trying to imagine where someone
else would have put it away.

Good thing about the dishwasher is that you stuff everything in there and
walk away. People generally don't hang around and wait for it to finish so
they can put things away for you.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
oups.com...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"you I imagine"?

Imagination can run rampant. smirk


All your base are belong to us.

Acid is prefarable.
More tart.
Like me.

Om


http://www.wimp.com/basetwo/

That was scary.

Om


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