Steve Pope wrote:
Kate Connally wrote:

Yeah, but, the package, shredded lettuce is still real lettuce.
And "hand-leafed" is just a totally weird term. I would guess
they're implying that someone there takes a whole head of lettuce
and removes the leaves by hand (how else would you do it?).

That's exactly what it means, as opposed to whacking away at the entire
head.

There's a practice of harvesting leaves of lettuce a few at
a time without harvesting the entire plant. Perhaps this
is what is being describe.

That's counter productive, harvessting the outer leaves of lettuce
plants causes bolting. Allowing lettuce to become too mature also
causes bolting. Once lettuce has begun to bolt it's bitter. To
increase the havesting season stagger planting and harvest entire
lettuce plants while still young... two young heads are better than one
large one... also conserves gardening space and ultimately yields a
larger crop from the same space.

Sheldon

Donald Martinich wrote:

You should do that just to see what the fuss is about. Just don't get
your hopes too high.

My sense of it is that I would be getting an above average fast food
hamburger.

Is this the outfit that has the family feud going on for control of the
company? The
story shows up in the SJ Mercury News every few months. Or, maybe I'm
thinking
of something else.

Joseph Littleshoes writes:
This inspired me to do the same thing with a piece of blue cheese, i
really, really like a big lump of blue cheese in my burger.

Cheese embedded in a burger can be very tasty. Heck, several places
in Minnesota specialized in just that (known locally as a Jucy Lucy),
although usually with cheap American Cheese[sic]. Still, it was
actually quite good, if artery hardening.

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

"KevinS" writes:
Is this the outfit that has the family feud going on for control of the
company? The
story shows up in the SJ Mercury News every few months. Or, maybe I'm
thinking
of something else.

Yeah, that's In-n-Out, which is privately owned, and various family
members and estate trustees have been squabling over the last few
years.

Oh well, I hope they don't mess with the burgers---which I like,
although they aren't the holy grail that many make them out to be.
I'll just grab a double-double[1] animal style and rare french fries
and be happy, and enjoy eating at a place where the staff actually
doesn't seem to hate their job.


[1] Not to be confused with a Tim Horton's double-double

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

Steve Wertz wrote:
On 28 Apr 2006 12:03:07 -0700, aem wrote:

Busted! Okay, I confess. I have not eaten a burger of any kind from
any of the other fast food burger places for more than twenty years, so
my prejudice in favor of In 'n Out is entirely ignorant. I just know
that the In'nOut product is fresh and high quality. Once every couple
of years I get a Tommy's burger (L.A. institution), but that's for that
greasy chili your stomach craves at 2 a.m. -aem

I&O's claim is that they never use frozen hamburger. IMO, that's
not much of a marketing gimmick. Frozen hamburger is safer and
no less tasty.

What I want is 100% beef, with no added seasoning in the beef, and
preferably little/none on it other than maybe hickory from cooking it
over real wood. I want it medium rare. Today I got a burger that I
ordered med rare. If I'd gotten rare or medium, I would have been OK
with that, but it came med well, almost well. If my wife hadn't been
on her lunch hour from work and I hadn't had a coupon, I might have
sent it back. The problem with frozen patties is that if they're not
properly thawed, it's hard for them to get the doneness right.

The only thing dofferent about I&O and other fast food joints -
again IMO - is they pay/treat their employees (and managers)
*very* well and the food takes longer to get to you.

That is good. I always tip well for service (not an issue with fast
food joints), but I want quality food, and that means reasonably lean,
fresh beef, not cooked to death. If the interior is mostly or totally
gray, I won't pay premium prices. I live in St. Louis, where you can
get burgers cooked rare all over town, and McD's has well done Big'n
Tastys for $1. If I have to pay double, triple or more, I expect more,
a lot more.

-sw

--Bryan

Steve Wertz wrote:
On 28 Apr 2006 12:03:07 -0700, aem wrote:
I&O's claim is that they never use frozen hamburger. IMO, that's
not much of a marketing gimmick. Frozen hamburger is safer and
no less tasty.

It changes the structure and it tends to become dry. When I shape the
patty from thawed ground beef, I feels it is rather watery (which is
less bound to the meat than before it was fozen), and the fat has
seperated from the meat and sticks as a thin layer to my hand.

im a kiwi girl so i dont know what some of the american food outlets
are ...... whats an in and out burger and whats a double double ????

tessa

butterflyangel wrote:
im a kiwi girl so i dont know what some of the american food outlets
are ...... whats an in and out burger and whats a double double ????

http://www.in-n-out.com/secretmenu.asp

Give my regards to Peter Jackson and tell him to make The Hobbit film.

It depends on how it's frozen. When you put it in your kitchen freezer
the freezing process is slow causing the water in the cells to expand and
burst the cell wall. That's why there's so much blood and water in the
wrapper when you thaw it. Commercially frozen meat is flash frozen and the
effect is minimized.

"Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen" wrote in
message ...
Steve Wertz wrote:
On 28 Apr 2006 12:03:07 -0700, aem wrote:
I&O's claim is that they never use frozen hamburger. IMO, that's
not much of a marketing gimmick. Frozen hamburger is safer and
no less tasty.

It changes the structure and it tends to become dry. When I shape the
patty from thawed ground beef, I feels it is rather watery (which is less
bound to the meat than before it was fozen), and the fat has seperated
from the meat and sticks as a thin layer to my hand.

Steve Wertz wrote in
:

On Mon, 01 May 2006 11:52:09 +0200, Michael Archon Sequoia
Nielsen wrote:

Steve Wertz wrote:
On 28 Apr 2006 12:03:07 -0700, aem wrote:
I&O's claim is that they never use frozen hamburger. IMO, that's
not much of a marketing gimmick. Frozen hamburger is safer and
no less tasty.

It changes the structure and it tends to become dry. When I shape the
patty from thawed ground beef, I feels it is rather watery (which is
less bound to the meat than before it was fozen), and the fat has
seperated from the meat and sticks as a thin layer to my hand.

I find I don't have that problem when I let the meat thaw in the
fridge. If I know I'm making hamburgers, I shape the meat before
I freeze (like the distributors do).

-sw


The frozen sirloin burgers the distributors make in 16 (?) packs are half
grease and half beef anyway. My bbq caught on fire because of the
drippings igniting.

Burger is so cheap why freeze in the first place? Gonna have a crowd, go
to your wholesale store and buy fresh 5 or more pounds of 80/20 and
hamburger press 'em and grill 'em.

Or for tonight, buy a pound and pan fry/steam them covered and let 'em
plump.

Dress to kill and serve!

Maybe...

Andy

In article ,
Donald Martinich wrote:

In article .com,
"KevinS" wrote:


Hmm, you go to Las Vegas from the east coast and you get to
In-n-Out before I do, and I live in Northern California. I moved here
about a year ago. Never heard of INO before moving here. Never
been in one. Can't recall ever driving past one, although the website
says there are several in my area. Well, if I ever go by one, I'll stop
and
check it out.

You should do that just to see what the fuss is about. Just don't get
your hopes too high. I will say that I prefer IO to Mc Duck's, BK, Jack,
and Wendy, especially if they are all near the same off-ramp. They are
freshly cooked but it's still an industrial fast-food burger. And if
you factor in the the frequently longer wait...

A few friends and I visit Las Vegas two or three times a year and we
usually eat at least one meal at the Inn 'N Out that's just off the
Strip near the New York New York. We usually walk there to burn off the
calories. The burgers are great there, but I really like the In 'N Out
t-shirts. Each year, they have a different In 'N Out t-shirt!

Stan Horwitz wrote:
Donald Martinich wrote:
"KevinS" wrote:

Hmm, you go to Las Vegas from the east coast and you get to
In-n-Out before I do, and I live in Northern California. I moved here
about a year ago. Never heard of INO before moving here. Never
been in one. Can't recall ever driving past one, although the website
says there are several in my area. Well, if I ever go by one, I'll stop
and check it out.

You should do that just to see what the fuss is about. Just don't get
your hopes too high. I will say that I prefer IO to Mc Duck's, BK, Jack,
and Wendy, especially if they are all near the same off-ramp. They are
freshly cooked but it's still an industrial fast-food burger. And if
you factor in the the frequently longer wait...

A few friends and I visit Las Vegas two or three times a year and we
usually eat at least one meal at the Inn 'N Out that's just off the
Strip near the New York New York. We usually walk there to burn off the
calories. The burgers are great there, but I really like the In 'N Out
t-shirts.

You eat the t-shirts?

Sheldon

In article .com,
"Sheldon" wrote:

Stan Horwitz wrote:
Donald Martinich wrote:
"KevinS" wrote:

Hmm, you go to Las Vegas from the east coast and you get to
In-n-Out before I do, and I live in Northern California. I moved here
about a year ago. Never heard of INO before moving here. Never
been in one. Can't recall ever driving past one, although the website
says there are several in my area. Well, if I ever go by one, I'll stop
and check it out.

You should do that just to see what the fuss is about. Just don't get
your hopes too high. I will say that I prefer IO to Mc Duck's, BK, Jack,
and Wendy, especially if they are all near the same off-ramp. They are
freshly cooked but it's still an industrial fast-food burger. And if
you factor in the the frequently longer wait...

A few friends and I visit Las Vegas two or three times a year and we
usually eat at least one meal at the Inn 'N Out that's just off the
Strip near the New York New York. We usually walk there to burn off the
calories. The burgers are great there, but I really like the In 'N Out
t-shirts.

You eat the t-shirts?

Anything is good with a little Heinz Ketchup!

In article . com,
"aem" wrote:

Steve Wertz wrote:
On 27 Apr 2006 16:32:55 -0700, aem wrote:

No kidding. In 'n Out uses leaves of real lettuce. The bad joke is
that all the other fast food burger places use packaged shredded
lettuce. -aem

Jack in the Box doesn't (except maybe on their tacos).

Busted! Okay, I confess. I have not eaten a burger of any kind from
any of the other fast food burger places for more than twenty years, so
my prejudice in favor of In 'n Out is entirely ignorant. I just know
that the In'nOut product is fresh and high quality. Once every couple
of years I get a Tommy's burger (L.A. institution), but that's for that
greasy chili your stomach craves at 2 a.m. -aem

If anyone wants a truly upscale hamburger in Las Vegas, there's a
gourmet burger bar in the Mandalay Bay's shopping mall where the burgers
are fantastic! You get a choice of several different cheeses, different
meats (bison, ostrich, kobe beef, lamb, and regular beef), several
cheeses, and tons of different toppings. This is not a fast food place
and its prices are not cheap, but they are not particularly expensive
either, depending on what one orders. The name of the place escapes me
though, but its easy to find just by walking through the mall area
toward the Luxor.

Stan Horwitz wrote:
In article .com,
"Sheldon" wrote:

Stan Horwitz wrote:
Donald Martinich wrote:
"KevinS" wrote:

Hmm, you go to Las Vegas from the east coast and you get to
In-n-Out before I do, and I live in Northern California. I moved here
about a year ago. Never heard of INO before moving here. Never
been in one. Can't recall ever driving past one, although the website
says there are several in my area. Well, if I ever go by one, I'll stop
and check it out.

You should do that just to see what the fuss is about. Just don't get
your hopes too high. I will say that I prefer IO to Mc Duck's, BK, Jack,
and Wendy, especially if they are all near the same off-ramp. They are
freshly cooked but it's still an industrial fast-food burger. And if
you factor in the the frequently longer wait...

A few friends and I visit Las Vegas two or three times a year and we
usually eat at least one meal at the Inn 'N Out that's just off the
Strip near the New York New York. We usually walk there to burn off the
calories. The burgers are great there, but I really like the In 'N Out
t-shirts.

You eat the t-shirts?

Anything is good with a little Heinz Ketchup!

You think I didn't know you'd say that. LOL

I bet you can produce a line of tee shirts with genuine Heinz stains
and trade mark them.

Sheldon