On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:21:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
wrote:

I think this is funny because it's so true. People up north assume anyone
with a southern accent must be a stupid hillbilly.

It's true, they often do. However, this can be used to your
overwhelming advantage. I just =love= it when some doofus
underestimates me. BEG

Tracy R. ==Tennessee accent, Ivy League diploma :P

"jmcquown" wrote

jay wrote:

us'ins in the south are very friendly to outsiders, that is compared
to
the north, east or west! Our hightly educated sounding southern
accents
allow most in other areas to know we are there. We can go anywhere
out of they south and someone will point out the accent and laugh
because they
can tell from the accent that stupid has arrived! LOL

I think this is funny because it's so true. People up north assume anyone
with a southern accent must be a stupid hillbilly. Talk about prejudice.
I
have a slight southern accent but not overwhelming. I've lived in the
south
for 34 years.

People make assumptions about people all the time because of how
they speak. You think that someone with a heavy Brooklyn accent
doesn't get a lot of crap? Yet you will find so many with a heart of
pure gold. Yes, even to strangers. Not uncommon at all.

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There are
all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is all that nice,
either.

You can change the words from nice to stupid or smart as you
see fit. Same thing.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. (laugh)

nancy

"ravinwulf" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:21:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
wrote:

I think this is funny because it's so true. People up north assume anyone
with a southern accent must be a stupid hillbilly.

It's true, they often do. However, this can be used to your
overwhelming advantage. I just =love= it when some doofus
underestimates me. BEG

Tracy R. ==Tennessee accent, Ivy League diploma :P

It usually turns out that that doofus would probably not be the person you
would want to make your fast-friend anyway - of course, you know that.

I've seen some TV shows or films where some people are stopping alongside
some southerners asking for directions; the southerners get in gear putting
on their best southern stupidity act for them. I always get a laugh no
matter how many times I see this.

Dee Dee

"Nancy Young" wrote in message
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"jmcquown" wrote

jay wrote:

us'ins in the south are very friendly to outsiders, that is compared
to
the north, east or west! Our hightly educated sounding southern
accents
allow most in other areas to know we are there. We can go anywhere
out of they south and someone will point out the accent and laugh
because they
can tell from the accent that stupid has arrived! LOL

I think this is funny because it's so true. People up north assume
anyone
with a southern accent must be a stupid hillbilly. Talk about prejudice.
I
have a slight southern accent but not overwhelming. I've lived in the
south
for 34 years.

People make assumptions about people all the time because of how
they speak. You think that someone with a heavy Brooklyn accent
doesn't get a lot of crap? Yet you will find so many with a heart of
pure gold. Yes, even to strangers. Not uncommon at all.

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There are
all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is all that
nice,
either.

You can change the words from nice to stupid or smart as you
see fit. Same thing.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. (laugh)

nancy
I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled "steel
magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the dictionary. To
me the words refer to someone who stands firm in their convictions (either
good or bad, I don't know) and does it with diplomacy. I'm not sure what it
means to most people.
Dee Dee

"Dee Randall" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There are
all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is all that
nice,
either.

I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled "steel
magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the dictionary. To
me the words refer to someone who stands firm in their convictions
(either good or bad, I don't know) and does it with diplomacy. I'm not
sure what it means to most people.

I can only speak for where I've heard it, so I'm sure it has
different connotations wherever. In real life I've heard steel
magnolia, sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back.
Applied to women with a genteel southern accent.

I imagine, though, it's something along the lines of iron fist/velvet
glove.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
"Dee Randall" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There
are all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is
all that nice,
either.

I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled
"steel magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the
dictionary. To me the words refer to someone who stands firm in
their convictions (either good or bad, I don't know) and does it
with diplomacy. I'm not sure what it means to most people.

I can only speak for where I've heard it, so I'm sure it has
different connotations wherever. In real life I've heard steel
magnolia, sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back.
Applied to women with a genteel southern accent.

I imagine, though, it's something along the lines of iron fist/velvet
glove.

nancy

Yep. Applied to the upper crust of southern society who will pretend to be
nice but in reality will immediately stab you in the back. Fortunately I
don't know or associate with people like that. The folks I know are more
likely to invite you to a cookout for brats and grilled corn than to a
garden party

Jill

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:54:52 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:


"Dee Randall" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There are
all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is all that
nice,
either.

I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled "steel
magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the dictionary. To
me the words refer to someone who stands firm in their convictions
(either good or bad, I don't know) and does it with diplomacy. I'm not
sure what it means to most people.

I can only speak for where I've heard it, so I'm sure it has
different connotations wherever. In real life I've heard steel
magnolia, sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back.
Applied to women with a genteel southern accent.

I imagine, though, it's something along the lines of iron fist/velvet
glove.

nancy

Think more along the lines of the women in the movie "Steel
Magnolias." Soft and delicate but with the backbone and endurance to
face adversity and keep on going.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974

"Nancy Young" wrote in message
...

"Dee Randall" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There are
all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is all that
nice,
either.

I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled "steel
magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the dictionary.
To me the words refer to someone who stands firm in their convictions
(either good or bad, I don't know) and does it with diplomacy. I'm not
sure what it means to most people.

I can only speak for where I've heard it, so I'm sure it has
different connotations wherever. In real life I've heard steel
magnolia, sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back.
Applied to women with a genteel southern accent.

I've heard women who are"sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back"
as
"Chocolate Covered Spiders."
Dee Dee

"jmcquown" wrote in message
. ..
Nancy Young wrote:
"Dee Randall" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south. There
are all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the south is
all that nice,
either.

I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled
"steel magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the
dictionary. To me the words refer to someone who stands firm in
their convictions (either good or bad, I don't know) and does it
with diplomacy. I'm not sure what it means to most people.

I can only speak for where I've heard it, so I'm sure it has
different connotations wherever. In real life I've heard steel
magnolia, sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back.
Applied to women with a genteel southern accent.

I imagine, though, it's something along the lines of iron fist/velvet
glove.

nancy

Yep. Applied to the upper crust of southern society who will pretend to
be
nice but in reality will immediately stab you in the back. Fortunately I
don't know or associate with people like that. The folks I know are more
likely to invite you to a cookout for brats and grilled corn than to a
garden party

Jill

Wasn't Rosyln Carter referred to as a "steel magnolia," but I always thought
it in reference to her as being as Nancy said, iron fist/velvet gloves. But
I really don't know. Just chatting.
Dee Dee

sf wrote:
On 26 Apr 2006 13:48:31 -0700, itsjoannotjoann wrote:


sf wrote:

You don't know me, nor anything about me, you don't live in this area,
you're completely on the other side of the country so don't make
blanket statements that you have no knowledge of. It makes you look
extremely narrow minded and self righteous.

and I'm thinking the same about you
--



Yes, you caught me, my secret is out. I've been exposed by the almighty
and _always_ correct sf. I'm narrow minded and self righteous
because I don't agree with you. I'll have to watch my p's and q's and
step lightly so as not to get your dander up.

Phfffff

jmcquown wrote:

Yep. Applied to the upper crust of southern society who will pretend to be
nice but in reality will immediately stab you in the back. Fortunately I
don't know or associate with people like that. The folks I know are more
likely to invite you to a cookout for brats and grilled corn than to a
garden party

How odd, that I see it having nothing to do with which crust of society
you dwell. To me that description sounds more like sour grapes?
Rather that the ideal southern woman is gentle, perhaps cloyingly sweet
natured in persona, but when necessity calls for it she can handle the
roughest life throws at her with steely resolve to survive.
She's got ovaries and isn't afraid to use 'em! LOL

On Thu 27 Apr 2006 05:48:32p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Goomba38?

jmcquown wrote:

Yep. Applied to the upper crust of southern society who will pretend
to be nice but in reality will immediately stab you in the back.
Fortunately I don't know or associate with people like that. The folks
I know are more likely to invite you to a cookout for brats and grilled
corn than to a garden party

How odd, that I see it having nothing to do with which crust of society
you dwell. To me that description sounds more like sour grapes?
Rather that the ideal southern woman is gentle, perhaps cloyingly sweet
natured in persona, but when necessity calls for it she can handle the
roughest life throws at her with steely resolve to survive.
She's got ovaries and isn't afraid to use 'em! LOL

Since my entire family is from the deep south and I have had plenty of
exposure, I would tend to agree with you, Goomba.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

Dee Randall wrote:
"Nancy Young" wrote in message
...

"Dee Randall" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote

The opposite, of course, is the steel magnolia of the south.
There are all kinds all over the place, not everyone from the
south is all that nice,
either.

I've not heard the words, "steel magnolia" often. When I googled
"steel magnolia"+definition, I didn't see anything; and not in the
dictionary. To me the words refer to someone who stands firm in
their convictions (either good or bad, I don't know) and does it
with diplomacy. I'm not sure what it means to most people.

I can only speak for where I've heard it, so I'm sure it has
different connotations wherever. In real life I've heard steel
magnolia, sweet as pie to your face but don't turn your back.
Applied to women with a genteel southern accent.

I've heard women who are"sweet as pie to your face but don't turn
your back" as
"Chocolate Covered Spiders."
Dee Dee

That's how I've interpreted it (and no, Goomba, it's not sour grapes; I
could give a rip about southern society levels).

Jill

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:15:33 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

You don't have to be an integral part of southern culture to feel the
obvious snubs from some people who moved south from an area up north or even
from out west.

Jill, haven't you gotten the drift by this time that being out of the
mainstream and knowing you'll never be considered "one of them" isn't
something that only southerners experience?????
--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.