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a goy's first Seder



 
 
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:59 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:11 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On 2006-04-11, bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring?


A rack o' BBQ ribs and a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20! That oughta get
their attention.

nb
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:24 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"bulka" wrote in message ...
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka


Other than required toasts, do NOT, under any circumstances drink that wine
unless you're idea of a good time is waking up the next day and feeling like
someone's making a hole in your skull with a 1" flat wood boring bit.


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Old 11-04-2006, 09:54 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?


only if they keep kosher. Some people are stringent on following
passover laws, and not the rest of the year though. I'd ask your friends.


These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka



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Old 11-04-2006, 10:01 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka



From last week's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040400430.html

The mousse cake (first recipe in the article) looks pretty good to me.

Bob
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:32 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.


If they don't keep kosher, it is likely that there won't me any rules
about the
wine. If they are sticking to Kosher for Passover wines (which must
miraculously
ferment without yeast), they can always keep the bottle for another
occasion,
feed it to you, or send it home with you.

As for sides, A salad or a vegetable is very safe. Avoid corn, peanuts
or
grains. Traditional in my family might be a potato kugel (which I
hate). I would make roast or mashed potatos. It is also very Passovery
to eat
spring vegetables like asparagus. Also, hard boiled eggs with salt (but
they may be
making these already).

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Old 11-04-2006, 11:34 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:59:18 -0500, bulka wrote:

I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.


I've never been invitied to one, but it sounds fairly traditional
http://www.fabulousfoods.com/holiday.../passover.html
I'm especially fond of the part where adults are required to drink 4
glasses of wine! Why not make those cheese puffs w/o the ham or
shrimp?

Taken from the above web site

Spinach Moussaka -- Pareve or Dairy option
by: Joan Kekst, author of Passover Cookery

4 matzo slices
1 1/4 lb. fresh spinach, stems removed OR 2 pkg. (10 oz.) frozen
spinach
1 medium onion
2 garlic cloves, chopped
6 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 lb. chopped mushrooms
2 tablespoons almonds, finely chopped
salt and freshly ground pepper to taste
2 teaspoons lemon juice
1 tablespoon feathery dill leaves, minced
2 tablespoons matzo meal
2 eggs plus one egg white
1 1/2 cups mashed potatoes
grated nutmeg

Serves 6 as a main course

Preheat oven to 400° F. Grease a 9-inch square pan with 1 tablespoon
oil. Briefly dip matzo slices in water to soften. Drain on paper
towels. Fit 2 matzo slices on bottom of pan.

Thoroughly drain frozen spinach or wash fresh spinach, remove stems.
Cook fresh spinach in salted water for 2 minutes, drain and chop.

Sauté onion and garlic in 2 tablespoons oil until golden, add the
mushrooms. Cook until mushroom juices evaporate. Season with salt and
pepper, add the spinach, lemon juice and almonds, remove from heat.
Cool.

Lightly beat 2 eggs with a pinch of salt, stir into spinach mixture.
Adjust flavor and add dill and a bit of matzo meal if needed. Brush
matzo in pan with oil and spread with potatoes. Top with the spinach
mixture, cover with remaining matzo and brush with oil.

Beat the egg white with 1 tablespoon oil, add nutmeg and brush on
matzo. Bake 50 minutes, baste with remaining egg white and grated
nutmeg several times. Bake until top is lightly browned.

OPTIONS: Add 1 cup ricotta cheese to the spinach mixture for a hearty
dairy meal during Passover, if desired.
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Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:37 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, sf wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:59:18 -0500, bulka wrote:

I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.


I've never been invitied to one, but it sounds fairly traditional
http://www.fabulousfoods.com/holiday.../passover.html
I'm especially fond of the part where adults are required to drink 4
glasses of wine! Why not make those cheese puffs w/o the ham or
shrimp?


This is not the holiday for drunkeness (that's purim, and people really do
try to get drunk then).

Remember that it's four glass of wine over about four hours (at least in
an orthodox seder).

Also, in less orthodox settings, people don't always drink the entire
glass.

Lena
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:39 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, zxcvbob wrote:

bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?
These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka



From last week's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040400430.html

The mousse cake (first recipe in the article) looks pretty good to me.


allow me to suggest _not_ bringing a cake.

For a holiday about "no leavend products", it seems a bit... jarring.

Lena
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:45 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Lena B Katz wrote:


On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, zxcvbob wrote:

bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine? These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so
I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka



From last week's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040400430.html


The mousse cake (first recipe in the article) looks pretty good to me.


allow me to suggest _not_ bringing a cake.

For a holiday about "no leavend products", it seems a bit... jarring.

Lena



It's a kosher for Passover (and pareve) recipe. Plus, he said the group
was /very/ "Reformed".

I wouldn't bring anything except maybe wine if they were Orthodox.

Bob
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:00 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?

These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.


You'd need to bring food or drink that's not only kosher but Kosher for
Pssover. Don't bring any cooked dish. You can bring a box of
chocolates if marked Kosher for Passover or wine the same. It matters
not how orthodox your hosts, no one brings cooked dishes to a seder.

My suggestion is to play it safe and bring flowers.


Sheldon

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Old 12-04-2006, 12:14 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:45:33 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

Lena B Katz wrote:


On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, zxcvbob wrote:

bulka wrote:
I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine? These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so
I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka


From last week's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040400430.html


The mousse cake (first recipe in the article) looks pretty good to me.


allow me to suggest _not_ bringing a cake.

For a holiday about "no leavend products", it seems a bit... jarring.

Lena



It's a kosher for Passover (and pareve) recipe. Plus, he said the group
was /very/ "Reformed".

I wouldn't bring anything except maybe wine if they were Orthodox.

Bob


If they were Orthodox, they would not ask anyone unfamiliar with
kashrut to bring food or drink.

All guests would be welcome at a seder, though.

Boron

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Old 12-04-2006, 12:43 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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sarah bennett wrote:

bulka wrote:

I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring? I know enough not to make ham and shrimp cheese puffs, but not
much more. I'm looking for somthing traditional, but not so normal and
obvious that everyone else will be bringing the same thing. Any rules
about the wine?



only if they keep kosher. Some people are stringent on following
passover laws, and not the rest of the year though. I'd ask your friends.


"A goy's first Seder"? reminds me of the old, old, old joke about the
shabbes goy who wanted to have Friday evening off, he explained to his
employer, a Rabbi, that he had an invitation to meet Milton Berle and
could he possibly leave earlier than usual on Friday evening to do so?
the Rabbi thought about this for a moment and said "Oy! i should keep a
goy from meeting a berle?"
---
JL



These are a bunch of artists and left of reformed, so I'm not worried
about embarrassing myself, or offending anyone, but it's a tradition and
I want to play by the rules, yet still have fun and maybe show off a
litttle.

We're having lamb and pot-luck sides.

Not completely OT: On Terry Gross's NPR show today I heard a band
called "What I Like About Jew." Their Passover song, "They Tried to
Kill Us; We Survived; Let's Eat." is hilarious.

Bulka




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Old 12-04-2006, 01:51 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:59:18 -0500, bulka wrote:

I'm invited to my first Seder this week.. Any suggestions on what to
bring?


Ask Nancy Young.



 




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