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a goy's first Seder



 
 
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Old 14-04-2006, 07:56 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
sarah bennett
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wrote:
Boozie Floozie wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:35:30 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote:


On another note, in the past day or so I saw in the paper an
article about Passover preparations. One picture was of a woman
in a kosher store covering the products that people were not to
buy for the holiday. I would have thought anything kosher would
do. Perhaps there is a special distinction that is escaping me.


Passover has extra restrictions, mostly to do with leavening. No
leavened products (yeast, etc.), which extends to other products, too.
Here's a site that may be helpful to you:

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/kosher1.html

serene



Ack!! So no beer? It's basically the same ingredients as bread and
almost the same recipe.

I've heard that the Jews have had a rough time in the past, but nothing
could possible compare to no beer during Passover!

b.


that's what my brother says

--

saerah

http://anisaerah.cmayes.net/blog/

email:
anisaerah at s b c global.net

Adam Bowman wrote:
I always wonder when someone brings up a point about Bush, and you
then bring up something that Clinton did, are you saying they are both
wrong? Because that's all it points out to me, places where they both
messed up. It doesn't negate the fact that Bush did wrong; was that
your intention?

That type of argument is like

"Bob shot someone"

"Yeah, but don't you remember when Don hit that guy with a bat?"

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Old 15-04-2006, 01:33 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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The report:

It was a great evening. More social than cultural, religious or
culinary.

After being greeted at the open door by a naked toddler, and the first
offering of "Gin, gin with ice, martini with gin, wine, or gin without
spam" I knew I wasn't at the seder some of you were warning me about.

Turns out it was a mixed couple hosting, he was the only jew in the
room, and, even before my few days of speed learning, I'd somehow
absorbed more kashrut.

He did a great job for the kids (pyjamas on by now). Even though they
could barely talk, they repeated the questions and prayers in hebrew.
GF, who works at a museum, started to argue about archeological evidence
that jews even existed, but we defused that. In all, questions were
asked and answered, wine was drunk, bitter herbs were eaten and
expalined. This may be my favorite holiday (since halloween has been
commercialized and until someone invites me to purim). I'm thinking
about hosting a secular version with an overt political slant. I've got
a year to think about it.

The food:

As I said, not really a cullinary event.

My asparagus was nixed at the last minute - the host was grilling some.
So now, there is more for me at home.

Also grilled a rack - tasted like meat.

My eggs and beets seemed to go OK (Canned pickled beets with added brown
sugar, cider vinegar, garlic, onion , jalepeno, clove)

GF's grape leaves - rice, raisins, pine nuts, not sure what else

I was dissapointed with the glazed carrots, but people ate them. They
didn't seem to be really "glazed". I did do them in a rush, but I'll
try them again with real butter, more honey and some tweaking. (steamed
baby carrots, with butter, honey, orange zest and juice, dill)

The shame of a pot luck - I took home some of the experimental roasted
veg dip. Can't blame them. Good engredients aren't enough. It was
bland (eggplant, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, other veg and small leafs)
and my usual emergency kick of lemon and garlic didn't quite do it.

Haroset - not what I expected. I thought it would be chunky, like
halva, but our host's was like a dip. Tasty, though.

Thank you all

bulka
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Old 15-04-2006, 01:44 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Once, after a comment to an acquaintance, her husband said "what a
goyishe thing to say." I remember it as a great compliment that for the
time we'd know each other he'd assumed I was of the tribe.

Julia Altshuler wrote:

(I've been removing the word "goy" from the subject line because, while
the word can be used affectionately and humorously, in my childhood it
always had a pejorative meaning, and I'm not here to insult anyone.)

--Lia

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Old 15-04-2006, 02:39 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Margaret Suran[_1_]
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bulka wrote:
The report:

It was a great evening. More social than cultural, religious or
culinary.

After being greeted at the open door by a naked toddler, and the first
offering of "Gin, gin with ice, martini with gin, wine, or gin without
spam" I knew I wasn't at the seder some of you were warning me about.

Turns out it was a mixed couple hosting, he was the only jew in the
room, and, even before my few days of speed learning, I'd somehow
absorbed more kashrut.

He did a great job for the kids (pyjamas on by now). Even though they
could barely talk, they repeated the questions and prayers in hebrew.
GF, who works at a museum, started to argue about archeological evidence
that jews even existed, but we defused that. In all, questions were
asked and answered, wine was drunk, bitter herbs were eaten and
expalined. This may be my favorite holiday (since halloween has been
commercialized and until someone invites me to purim). I'm thinking
about hosting a secular version with an overt political slant. I've got
a year to think about it.

The food:

As I said, not really a cullinary event.

My asparagus was nixed at the last minute - the host was grilling some.
So now, there is more for me at home.

Also grilled a rack - tasted like meat.

My eggs and beets seemed to go OK (Canned pickled beets with added brown
sugar, cider vinegar, garlic, onion , jalepeno, clove)

GF's grape leaves - rice, raisins, pine nuts, not sure what else

I was dissapointed with the glazed carrots, but people ate them. They
didn't seem to be really "glazed". I did do them in a rush, but I'll
try them again with real butter, more honey and some tweaking. (steamed
baby carrots, with butter, honey, orange zest and juice, dill)

The shame of a pot luck - I took home some of the experimental roasted
veg dip. Can't blame them. Good engredients aren't enough. It was
bland (eggplant, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, other veg and small leafs)
and my usual emergency kick of lemon and garlic didn't quite do it.

Haroset - not what I expected. I thought it would be chunky, like
halva, but our host's was like a dip. Tasty, though.

Thank you all

bulka


Great post about a special evening. Thank you for telling us about it
and letting us know about the event after it occurred. )

My Charoset was chunky. Chopped apple, chopped nuts, honey and peach
jam, red sweet wine, spices. No sugar.

You will most likely never get an invitation for a Purim Dinner. It
is not something that is celebrated at home. It is celebrated in the
synagogue with the reading of the Megillah, a reading that goes on and
on forever. Or so it seems. A special pastry (Hamantaschen) is baked
and exchanged with friends, as are other sweets and fruits. That's
it. Oh, you also have to find two needy people and give them alms.
No dinner, no traditional foods, nothing. (

Get yourself invited to the traditional Break Fast next Yom Kippur.
That is something you will most likely enjoy. It takes place when Yom
Kippur is over and it is the first food to be eaten after more than 24
hours of a complete fast. You may not even brush your teeth.
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Old 16-04-2006, 07:25 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
bulka
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Margaret Suran wrote:

You will most likely never get an invitation for a Purim Dinner. It
is not something that is celebrated at home.


Did I mean Purim? There are still a lot of words I don't know, and that
sound the same to me. Maybe I'll do some research. There is a costumed
celebration for which I've seen notices for synegogue-based child
-centered events, but, given human nature, I know there is a drunken
adult version calling me. I'm small c catholic - willing to help
celebrate anyone's happiness.

Hamentaschen - I think I've eaten them, but don't remember any
interesting clothing associated.

bulka
 




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