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Are sardines deteriorating in quality?



 
 
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:15 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I seem to
be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might this be related
to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem with freshness
procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?

Jack

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Old 11-04-2006, 08:26 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Jack wrote:
I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I seem to
be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might this be related
to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem with freshness
procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?

Jack


Try canned oysters in cottonseed oil.

W : )

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Old 11-04-2006, 08:30 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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"Jack" wrote in message
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I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I seem to
be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might this be related
to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem with freshness
procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?

Jack



Tastes do change over time. Like when you are a child you tend to like
really sugary stuff that you would gag on after you become an adult. But
even adult tastes change over time. So for example, someone who loves
sardines in their 30's might really hate them in their 50's. It's possible
that you simply no longer like the taste of sardines. Very possible. Use
this as an opportunity to try other foods that you usually avoid. You might
be surprised to discover a new favorite food. -Dave


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Old 11-04-2006, 08:53 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Jack wrote:
I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.


Those three, in that order, are the crappiest garbage masquerading as
sardines on the market... yoose gotta pay more than 59¢ a tin.

Try Moosebec or King Edward brands, tiny brisling sardines.

Sheldon Sild

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Old 11-04-2006, 08:59 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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On 2006-04-11, Jack wrote:

Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.


procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?


No, it's just most vendors have cheapened their product. The only one
I know that still provides the real deal, with real sardine flavor, is
King Oscar brand. They're the only one's, to the best of my knowledge
who still provide sardines packed in fish oil. They're obviously more
pricey, but look for King Oscar brisling sardines packed in sild oil.
These are those double row, itty bitty sardines you probably remember
as a kid. Good stuff!

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L58E161FC

nb
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:13 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Jack wrote:

I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.


IMHO, all Brunswick products are the worst in
their class. Kippered herring is one they do
particularly bad.

The Savon drugstore chain sells a brand of
smoked sardines from Riga (Latvia) which
is very good and very cheap. I don't
remember the brand name, but they come
in a gold-colored round can.
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:33 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Jack wrote:
I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I seem to
be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might this be related
to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem with freshness
procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?

Jack


Have you noticed canned tuna? It has gone from a solid chunk of tuna to
tuna soup. Some store brands still have canned tuna that is mostly a
solid chunk, but the so called "name brands" are not worth buying.

Rusty

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Old 11-04-2006, 10:40 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:15:42 -0500, Jack wrote:

I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I seem to
be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might this be related
to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem with freshness
procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?

Jack


I get Season brand of the skinless and boneless, packed in oil. No
changes that I have noticed.

No one in the family will even stay in the kitchen when I open a can
of them...just me and the dog, but she never leaves my side until she
gets her treat. I let her lick the bowl from the sardines & mayo after
the sandwich is made. I prefer it on a bagel, so it squishes out the
sides.

Boron
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:45 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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"Rusty" wrote

Have you noticed canned tuna? It has gone from a solid chunk of tuna to
tuna soup. Some store brands still have canned tuna that is mostly a
solid chunk, but the so called "name brands" are not worth buying.


Check out the Bumblebee in the gold can. Prime Filet, I think it's
called.

nancy


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Old 11-04-2006, 10:55 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Nancy Young wrote:
"Rusty" wrote

Have you noticed canned tuna? It has gone from a solid chunk of tuna to
tuna soup. Some store brands still have canned tuna that is mostly a
solid chunk, but the so called "name brands" are not worth buying.


Check out the Bumblebee in the gold can. Prime Filet, I think it's
called.

nancy


Thanks. I'll check it out. I believe Safeway Sea Trader brand still is
solid chunk, also.

Rusty

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Old 12-04-2006, 05:01 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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"Sheldon" wrote in
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Jack wrote:
I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the
past few years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands
range from Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick,
packed in oil.


Those three, in that order, are the crappiest garbage masquerading as
sardines on the market... yoose gotta pay more than 59¢ a tin.

Try Moosebec or King Edward brands, tiny brisling sardines.


Maybe you do get what you pay for. I'll have to try some "luxury" brands,
but I don't think I'm imagining the decline in taste. Some batches are
still fine, just rarer.

I have a feeling they are packing inferior fish because sardine populations
have been decimated. Overpopulation of people has caused overfishing of
many species (a big story that needs to get more airplay). I wouldn't be
shocked if the cheaper brands contain marginal species to keep costs down.

Some of the bad ones I taste seem like they've gone through more than one
freeze/thaw cycle, or some other trick was employed to stretch margins. The
texture is often mushy or grainy.

Jack

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Old 12-04-2006, 05:07 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Mark Thorson wrote in
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Jack wrote:

I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the
past few years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands
range from Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick,
packed in oil.


IMHO, all Brunswick products are the worst in
their class. Kippered herring is one they do
particularly bad.

The Savon drugstore chain sells a brand of
smoked sardines from Riga (Latvia) which
is very good and very cheap. I don't
remember the brand name, but they come
in a gold-colored round can.


I'll check those out, but I've had good luck with Brunswick kippered
herring "Seafood Snacks." Some have recently been "off" but the seasoning
masks it better than bad sardines.

Jack

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"Mike T." wrote in
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"Jack" wrote in message
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I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past
few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range
from Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick,
packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I
seem to be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might
this be related to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem
with freshness procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance
for canned fish over time?

Jack



Tastes do change over time. Like when you are a child you tend to
like really sugary stuff that you would gag on after you become an
adult. But even adult tastes change over time. So for example,
someone who loves sardines in their 30's might really hate them in
their 50's. It's possible that you simply no longer like the taste of
sardines. Very possible. Use this as an opportunity to try other
foods that you usually avoid. You might be surprised to discover a
new favorite food. -Dave


Possible to some degree, but I offered that comment as more hypothetical. I
still buy good tasting cans 2/3rds of the time. When they're bad it's
usually not subtle. Lack of consistency seems gradually worse since I first
ate them in the 1980s. I suspect that overfishing has caused cheaper brands
to use marginal stocks. The term "sardine" covers a variety of similar
species.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...+of+sardine s

Jack

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Old 12-04-2006, 08:43 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Boron Elgar wrote:

No one in the family will even stay in the kitchen when I open a can
of them...just me and the dog, but she never leaves my side until she
gets her treat. I let her lick the bowl from the sardines & mayo after
the sandwich is made. I prefer it on a bagel, so it squishes out the
sides.



Ah, sardine sandwiches on rye or pumpernickel...with mayo and yellow mustard
and red onion and some lettuce. Expecially nice in the
summer...unfortunately for me now a forbidden treat (sardines can trigger
gout) :-(

--
Best
Greg


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Old 12-04-2006, 09:42 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,misc.consumers
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Jack wrote:
I used to like sardines (except when packed in water), but in the past few
years I seem to buy more cans with bad tasting fish. Brands range from
Bumble Bee, Chicken Of The Sea and my favorite, Brunswick, packed in oil.

More and more, they taste old, overly fishy or just plain wrong. I seem to
be throwing away a third because of the gag reflex. Might this be related
to the general decline in ocean stocks, or a problem with freshness
procedures? Do some people just lose their tolerance for canned fish over
time?

Dunno about quality, have to ask my Princess (kitty).
It could be the FrankenSoy oil they're packed in, esp- the cheap ones. I
like to long, flat can, King or Prince somebody. I'm keeping an eye out
for those Latvians, don't recall ever seeing any in a round can.
 




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