Jude wrote:


Are you familiar with the phrase "separation of church and state"? Or
the concept that out founding fathers were trying to protect the
colonists' desires to escape the King's REQUIREMENT that English
citizens in the 1700s were to be actively involved with the Anglican
Church? They came here to escape force-fed religion.

Sort of. The Puritans came to set up religious colonies where they could force
feed their own religion. A few years after starting the Massachusetts colony the
same religious group rebelled back in England and there was a civil war. They
killed the king because he was too sympathetic to Catholics and they imposed
their brand of Protestantism on everyone else. Some of the famous slaughters that
the Irish carry on about to this day were carried out by the Roundhat army of the
Puritans.

"Goomba38" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

The Unitarian merit badge was eliminated because BSA feels that
particular religion is too tolerant of gays. Nice, eh?

...and atheists too, I believe?

I doubt there was ever a merit badge for atheists, considering the BSA's
general stance on religion.

In article ,
notbob wrote:

On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:

Definitely. The BSA does not vet its leaders well enough to be sure they
finished high school. Or 6th grade.

What does education have to do with it? If a person takes on the
responsibility of taking boys/girls under their wing to provide moral
leadership and gives of their time and energy, why should education be
a criteria?

I agree... ;-)

Wisdom is not earned by formal education.
Sometimes quite the opposite.

Yeah I have a 4 year BS degree but I went to the school of hard knocks
before I decided it was in my best interest to go back to school.

Even now I know well educated morons... Much to my sorrow.


I believe it retracted its statement.....

"it"?

All genders are neutral on usenet. lol
Unless it's proven otherwise!
I can provide references at least. G
Some of my very best freinds have been met via the internet.


nb
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

In article ,
"Default User" wrote:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:


That's funny as hell and I was not aware of that. ;-)
Hubbard being an excellent Sci-fi author (my favorite book of his
is "The Man that Fell to Earth") I'm not surprised.

I'm not aware of that book. There is The Man Who Fell to Earth, but
that wasn't written by Lron.

Dammit. I got the name wrong... I work nights, been up since 8 PM
last night. WTF was the name of the book about the kid that was
raised by martions, then brought back to earth and he had to adjust
to our culture? The kids name was Michael IRRC. I've not read the
book in several years...

Stranger in a Strange Land, perhaps? That was a Heinlein.


There are many that believe that, due to the racial diversity
etc., that earth was colonized by various humanoids and we did
not evolve here.

Idiots might believe that.

Who's to say they are wrong? ;-)

It has about as much credibility as creationism, in that you have
completely ignore all the real evidence in favor of magical crap.



Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:

Definitely. The BSA does not vet its leaders well enough to be sure they
finished high school. Or 6th grade.

While I agree that formal education is just a small part of life's learning
process, there *are* certain things one may not learn without exposure to
subjects like logic, math, writing, etc. Look at some of the insane
conclusions people come to here on usenet, or in public life. My cat's got
better reasoning powers than some people.

But, my comment was aimed primarily at the boy scout leader my son wasted
time with. The woman was a complete idiot, and that is fact, not opinion.



What does education have to do with it? If a person takes on the
responsibility of taking boys/girls under their wing to provide moral
leadership and gives of their time and energy, why should education be
a criteria?

I believe it retracted its statement.....

"it"?

I'm being gender-sensitive. I have no idea what Nola's gender is.

On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:
there *are* certain things one may not learn without exposure to
subjects like logic.....

Basic logic requires no formal education.

nb

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:
there *are* certain things one may not learn without exposure to
subjects like logic.....

Basic logic requires no formal education.

nb

Well, where do you think it comes from, since so many people have none of
it?

In article ,
"Default User" wrote:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

In article ,
"Default User" wrote:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:


That's funny as hell and I was not aware of that. ;-)
Hubbard being an excellent Sci-fi author (my favorite book of his
is "The Man that Fell to Earth") I'm not surprised.

I'm not aware of that book. There is The Man Who Fell to Earth, but
that wasn't written by Lron.

Dammit. I got the name wrong... I work nights, been up since 8 PM
last night. WTF was the name of the book about the kid that was
raised by martions, then brought back to earth and he had to adjust
to our culture? The kids name was Michael IRRC. I've not read the
book in several years...

Stranger in a Strange Land, perhaps? That was a Heinlein.

THANK YOU!!!
So many of my wicca and sci-fi books got destroyed in that damned flood.
:-( I need to do some re-ordering of Heinlein and Scott Cunningham.



There are many that believe that, due to the racial diversity
etc., that earth was colonized by various humanoids and we did
not evolve here.

Idiots might believe that.

Who's to say they are wrong? ;-)

It has about as much credibility as creationism, in that you have
completely ignore all the real evidence in favor of magical crap.



Brian

Not really... Even the fossil evidence does not explain the extreme
racial diversity?

I'm not a believer in that concept, just playing devil's advocate.

It's fun. G
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article ,
notbob wrote:

On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:
there *are* certain things one may not learn without exposure to
subjects like logic.....

Basic logic requires no formal education.

nb

Agreed!
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:
there *are* certain things one may not learn without exposure to
subjects like logic.....

Basic logic requires no formal education.

nb

Well, where do you think it comes from, since so many people have none of
it?



The X chromosome. smirk

Om - Gotta go get at least 3 hours sleep for work tonight. sigh
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"Default User" wrote in message
...

It has about as much credibility as creationism, in that you have
completely ignore all the real evidence in favor of magical crap.

Psst....wanna buy a crystal?

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...

So many of my wicca

She floats! She's a witch!


Not really... Even the fossil evidence does not explain the extreme
racial diversity?

But, other things do. I'll leave it for you to find them.

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Default User" wrote in message
...

It has about as much credibility as creationism, in that you have
completely ignore all the real evidence in favor of magical crap.

Psst....wanna buy a crystal?



ROFL!!!

Ever been to the quartz crystal mines in Hot Springs Arkansas?
A rockhound paradise!

One does not have to believe in the mystical powers of crystals to enjoy
their sheer psychedelic beauty. :-)
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...

So many of my wicca

She floats! She's a witch!

quack quack



Not really... Even the fossil evidence does not explain the extreme
racial diversity?

But, other things do. I'll leave it for you to find them.

Spoilsport! :-)

I got into that for the sheer fun of it.
Why won't you play along?




--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

On 2006-03-29, Doug Kanter wrote:

Well, where do you think it comes from, since so many people have none of
it?

What? You had to go to school to learn the basic logic of, if you
stick your hand in the fire, it hurts, if you don't stick your hand in
the fire, it doesn't? I hope, for the sake of your hand, you got good
grades!

OTOH, I can't count the number of people I know who have a whole wall
of degrees, yet are severely lacking in basic logic. BTW, "logic" in
the lower classes is commonly known as "common sense" and I readily
agree it's a commodity sorely lacking in both camps.

nb