I found this rather interesting article on obesity that gives a few more
points than others voiced on the recent "food snob" thread. I thought
it might be of interest to others here.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...398/-1/ARCHIVE

~patches~ wrote:
I found this rather interesting article on obesity that gives a few more
points than others voiced on the recent "food snob" thread. I thought
it might be of interest to others here.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...398/-1/ARCHIVE

IMO too many people cast themselves as victims in this and many other
things. There are choices we should make about how to live our lives
and as far as I'm concerned if someone chooses to be a couch potato
that's perfectly fine but I don't want to hear a lot of grizzling about
how the wicked food companies are at fault. My wife and I were smokers
for many years, I gave up some years before she was diagnosed with lung
cancer; she survived it (11 years now!) but knows perfectly well that
smoking was her choice and certainly wouldn't join in any suit against
the tobacco companies.

Good For you, I am fat. I know why, it is because I love to eat, I know
what I can do about it, eat less, excercise more. Nobody's fault buy my
own.

Jerry

jerryeveretts wrote:

Good For you, I am fat. I know why, it is because I love to eat, I know
what I can do about it, eat less, excercise more. Nobody's fault buy my
own.

Jerry


Jerry, this was a direct response in relation to another thread that has
been ongoing here. If you don't find the article helpful or are not
participating on the other thread, perhaps you should do yourself a
favour and killfile the topic.

In article . com,
"Anthony" wrote:

~patches~ wrote:
I found this rather interesting article on obesity that gives a few more
points than others voiced on the recent "food snob" thread. I thought
it might be of interest to others here.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...LE03/603260398
/-1/ARCHIVE

IMO too many people cast themselves as victims in this and many other
things. There are choices we should make about how to live our lives
and as far as I'm concerned if someone chooses to be a couch potato
that's perfectly fine but I don't want to hear a lot of grizzling about
how the wicked food companies are at fault. My wife and I were smokers
for many years, I gave up some years before she was diagnosed with lung
cancer; she survived it (11 years now!) but knows perfectly well that
smoking was her choice and certainly wouldn't join in any suit against
the tobacco companies.


I'm glad your wife is ok. :-)

I take personal responsibility for my own physical condition.
Granted, I have a couple of medical problems that contribute, but I also
have health insurance.

There is a new weight loss drug becoming available next month.
Can't think of the name of it at the moment, but I recall reading
nothing but good about it over the past couple of years.

I'll be trying it as soon as it comes out...
All of the "side effects" appear to be positive.

More later when I get the damned name of it!
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...

I'll be trying it as soon as it comes out...
All of the "side effects" appear to be positive.

"Seizures, detached limbs, blindness, hair loss, vomiting, numbness in
extremities, weight gain, stroke, agonizing pain in breasts, itchy skin,
dizziness. Speak to your doctor if you experience any of these bonuses".

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

In article . com,
"Anthony" wrote:


~patches~ wrote:

I found this rather interesting article on obesity that gives a few more
points than others voiced on the recent "food snob" thread. I thought
it might be of interest to others here.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...LE03/603260398
/-1/ARCHIVE

IMO too many people cast themselves as victims in this and many other
things. There are choices we should make about how to live our lives
and as far as I'm concerned if someone chooses to be a couch potato
that's perfectly fine but I don't want to hear a lot of grizzling about
how the wicked food companies are at fault. My wife and I were smokers
for many years, I gave up some years before she was diagnosed with lung
cancer; she survived it (11 years now!) but knows perfectly well that
smoking was her choice and certainly wouldn't join in any suit against
the tobacco companies.



I'm glad your wife is ok. :-)

I take personal responsibility for my own physical condition.
Granted, I have a couple of medical problems that contribute, but I also
have health insurance.

There is a new weight loss drug becoming available next month.
Can't think of the name of it at the moment, but I recall reading
nothing but good about it over the past couple of years.

I'll be trying it as soon as it comes out...
All of the "side effects" appear to be positive.

More later when I get the damned name of it!

Om, what I thought was good about this article and in direct relation to
the "food snob" thread is that the issue of obesity is multifauceted.
All the players hold some part of the blame. Now the individual is
ultimately responsible for the food they eat but the manufacturers have
really made this difficult. A lot of people don't realize all the other
stuff in the pre-made mixes or meals so they make them at home and think
they are doing the right thing not even realizing what they are putting
in their bodies. These people think they are cooking and even here it
comes up the cheats of using canned soups or mixes or that semi-homemade
topic that always resurfaces.

~patches~ wrote:
jerryeveretts wrote:

Good For you, I am fat. I know why, it is because I love to eat, I know
what I can do about it, eat less, excercise more. Nobody's fault buy my
own.

Jerry


Jerry, this was a direct response in relation to another thread that has
been ongoing here. If you don't find the article helpful or are not
participating on the other thread, perhaps you should do yourself a
favour and killfile the topic.

Perhaps you thought I was bitching or complaining? I was not, this was
a good for you... you quit smoking, you know the risk, as do I, and
here is my input. If I was annoyed or not interested, I would not have
replied.
thanks.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:42:16 -0500, ~patches~
wrote:

jerryeveretts wrote:

Good For you, I am fat. I know why, it is because I love to eat, I know
what I can do about it, eat less, excercise more. Nobody's fault buy my
own.

Jerry


Jerry, this was a direct response in relation to another thread that has
been ongoing here. If you don't find the article helpful or are not
participating on the other thread, perhaps you should do yourself a
favour and killfile the topic.


Why because he refuses to be a victim?

He's discussing the article, isn't he? a lot of peopel want somebody
to blame. And as long as they blame other people and companies, they
will not have to take responsibility for their actions.

I am overweight too. I exercise some, but not enough. And I eat too
many high calorie things. I love desserts. I love fried food. It's my
own fault I am overwieght.


--
Meghan & the Zoo Crew
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...

I'll be trying it as soon as it comes out...
All of the "side effects" appear to be positive.

"Seizures, detached limbs, blindness, hair loss, vomiting, numbness in
extremities, weight gain, stroke, agonizing pain in breasts, itchy skin,
dizziness. Speak to your doctor if you experience any of these bonuses".



grins
Actually the side effects on this one are lowered cholesterol and, for
some people, smoking and drinking cessation. It works on the brain
chemistry for breaking addictions.
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article ,
~patches~ wrote:

Om, what I thought was good about this article and in direct relation to
the "food snob" thread is that the issue of obesity is multifauceted.
All the players hold some part of the blame. Now the individual is
ultimately responsible for the food they eat but the manufacturers have
really made this difficult. A lot of people don't realize all the other
stuff in the pre-made mixes or meals so they make them at home and think
they are doing the right thing not even realizing what they are putting
in their bodies. These people think they are cooking and even here it
comes up the cheats of using canned soups or mixes or that semi-homemade
topic that always resurfaces.


It's very true. :-) That is why people need to try to educate themselves
on nutrition. I wish they'd teach it in school! I know that I had to
learn to read and interpret labels. It's not an instinctive thing.
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

jerryeveretts wrote:

~patches~ wrote:

jerryeveretts wrote:


Good For you, I am fat. I know why, it is because I love to eat, I know
what I can do about it, eat less, excercise more. Nobody's fault buy my
own.

Jerry


Jerry, this was a direct response in relation to another thread that has
been ongoing here. If you don't find the article helpful or are not
participating on the other thread, perhaps you should do yourself a
favour and killfile the topic.


Perhaps you thought I was bitching or complaining? I was not, this was
a good for you... you quit smoking, you know the risk, as do I, and
here is my input. If I was annoyed or not interested, I would not have
replied.
thanks.

You must have me confused with someone else. I've *never* smoked a day
in my life! Smoking is not or has ever been allowed in our home either.
DH is exactly the same way having never smoked. Perhaps you are
replying to someone else?

Meghan Noecker wrote:

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:42:16 -0500, ~patches~
wrote:


jerryeveretts wrote:


Good For you, I am fat. I know why, it is because I love to eat, I know
what I can do about it, eat less, excercise more. Nobody's fault buy my
own.

Jerry


Jerry, this was a direct response in relation to another thread that has
been ongoing here. If you don't find the article helpful or are not
participating on the other thread, perhaps you should do yourself a
favour and killfile the topic.



Why because he refuses to be a victim?

No Meghan, because for some reason - see my other reply - he has me
confused with someone else. I took his reply as being a little snipping
with the "Good for you bit". Proper quoting would have solved this
before it became a problem.

He's discussing the article, isn't he? a lot of peopel want somebody
to blame. And as long as they blame other people and companies, they
will not have to take responsibility for their actions.

I am overweight too. I exercise some, but not enough. And I eat too
many high calorie things. I love desserts. I love fried food. It's my
own fault I am overwieght.


--
Meghan & the Zoo Crew
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com

"~patches~" wrote in message
...
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

In article . com,
"Anthony" wrote:


~patches~ wrote:

I found this rather interesting article on obesity that gives a few more
points than others voiced on the recent "food snob" thread. I thought
it might be of interest to others here.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...LE03/603260398
/-1/ARCHIVE

IMO too many people cast themselves as victims in this and many other
things. There are choices we should make about how to live our lives
and as far as I'm concerned if someone chooses to be a couch potato
that's perfectly fine but I don't want to hear a lot of grizzling about
how the wicked food companies are at fault. My wife and I were smokers
for many years, I gave up some years before she was diagnosed with lung
cancer; she survived it (11 years now!) but knows perfectly well that
smoking was her choice and certainly wouldn't join in any suit against
the tobacco companies.



I'm glad your wife is ok. :-)

I take personal responsibility for my own physical condition.
Granted, I have a couple of medical problems that contribute, but I also
have health insurance.

There is a new weight loss drug becoming available next month.
Can't think of the name of it at the moment, but I recall reading nothing
but good about it over the past couple of years.

I'll be trying it as soon as it comes out...
All of the "side effects" appear to be positive.

More later when I get the damned name of it!

Om, what I thought was good about this article and in direct relation to
the "food snob" thread is that the issue of obesity is multifauceted. All
the players hold some part of the blame. Now the individual is ultimately
responsible for the food they eat but the manufacturers have really made
this difficult. A lot of people don't realize all the other stuff in the
pre-made mixes or meals so they make them at home and think they are doing
the right thing not even realizing what they are putting in their bodies.
These people think they are cooking and even here it comes up the cheats
of using canned soups or mixes or that semi-homemade topic that always
resurfaces.

The standard nutritional label has been around for what - 7 years? 10?
Failure to understand them by now is no excuse.

jerryeveretts wrote:

I am not confused I was explaining the "good for you" comment, not YOU
specifically, I was explaining my wording toward Anthony. As if I need
to continue to explain myself so you can understand what is going on.

You don't need to explain yourself to me. I understand perfectly. What
would be nice is to include some part of to whom you are replying as a
quote to avoid misunderstandings. Since I started this thread and
missed Anthony's reply it appeared you were replying to me. I see you
have included a quote and reply here, so thanks.


~patches~ wrote:

You must have me confused with someone else. I've *never* smoked a day
in my life! Smoking is not or has ever been allowed in our home either.
DH is exactly the same way having never smoked. Perhaps you are
replying to someone else?