OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
In article ,
The Bubbo wrote:

The last neighborhood grocery store was in the burbs and the most annoying
thing was the very slow moving old people (I know, I'm sorry, but I
sometimes
get impatient when I know what I want but they can't figure out the
difference
between ketchup and cocktail onions). Now I shop at the semi-ghetto grocery
store and the people are WAY more fascinating, a better mix of people and
not
just bland suburbia. I love people, I think they're fascinating, hell
sheldon
is more fascinating than irritating because he's so weird.

lol

One of the more fun places to people watch (besides bars) is the zoo...

nice!
also the dog park! All manner of people at the dog park and you all have your
dogs in common, you meet some interesting people. I always likened it to
parents at their kids' school since you mostly end up talking about your dogs
anyway.

I live just a couple blocks from 2 lakes (nokomis and hiawatha for those in
minneapolis) and you see all kinds of people doing their thing there.

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"~patches~" wrote:
Squirrels are funny! I toss out peanuts to the blue jays so one Christmas
I got the idea to put out the leftover Christmas nuts. DH was not amused
cleaning them out of the downspout We live on the water now so have a
problem feeding wildlife although I still toss our peanuts to the blue
jays each morning. I have one fat blue jay that follows me around when
I'm outside, bold as anything! DH said no bird feeders as we've had a
rodent problem and we do have a lot of other wildlife.

We learned our lesson about feeding squirrels many years ago. You can
actually get them to take the peanut out of your hand. They get very
friendly. In fact, way too friendly. Eventually they would sit on the
railing on our front steps waiting for a handout. The last straw with my
mother was when she wanted to go out shopping one day, and there was a
squirrel spread eagled on the screen door. She couldn't get out. No more
feeding the squirrels after that episode!

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"~patches~" wrote in message
...

Honest to goodness, I came across a website with some pretty good recipes.
All the baked recipes started with *Check the oven for any pot or pans,
once cleared, turn oven to...* I know I bookmarked it in one of the
browsers so I'll post the link when I find it. Really though, careful
directions are better than vague ones.


I have a recipe for cardamom cake. I use twice as much cardamom as the
original recipe called for, so when I share the recipe, I make it clear that
1 measure is what the original recipe said, and 2 measures is what I use -
"start with one and double it if you like the taste and make the cake
again". Gave it to a friend who made like this decision was a major life
crisis. We were on the phone for 20 minutes about THIS ONE THING.
"Well....what should I do???? Do you think I'll like it with 2 measures???"

sigh.....



well, duh, make it with two! Nothing is harmed by more cardamom!!! NOTHING!!!!

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The Bubbo wrote:
Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
"Doug Kanter" hitched up their panties
and posted :

"Joy of Cooking". Now, get ready for the insipid ****s to arrive
with comments. Two of them are regulars here.


I have the book and have used it many times. I bought it when I was
in college. I never learned how to cook at home. It's a great book
but I have not opened it for years. I'll have to dig it out and
take a look. IIRC it was wonderful for people wanting the basics
and learning how to cook.

Michael


for some strange reason my mom always thought I couldn't cook. I never
understood that. Being a quiet kid I never said anything about it.
When I got hitched and moved out my MIL got me the Betty Crocker
cookbook. 12 years later that is one of my most used books. It's got
all the very basic info I needed to get started. I still refer to it
for cooking times and basic info about veggies or meat cuts or
whatever. I have a million other cookbooks great and small that I
reference, but good old Betty has a place in my heart. One of these
days I should pick up JOC, but I'm really visual and I like pics and
I don't recall that my mom's well worn copy had any. Am I wrong?

My mom's 1951 edition of Betty Crocker was so well used it fell apart and
she threw it away! I found one in very good condition on eBay for $5.

In 1978 I bought a copy of the newer Betty Crocker cookbook for myself; it
was much smaller and much less helpful, if you want to know the truth. The
older one has everything you mention. Charts and diagrams and suggestions
about what goes with what. Everything a new cook could possibly want to
know, it's in there.

Jill

"The Bubbo" wrote in message
...
Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
"Doug Kanter" hitched up their panties and
posted :

"Joy of Cooking". Now, get ready for the insipid ****s to arrive with
comments. Two of them are regulars here.


I have the book and have used it many times. I bought it when I was in
college. I never learned how to cook at home. It's a great book but I
have
not opened it for years. I'll have to dig it out and take a look. IIRC
it
was wonderful for people wanting the basics and learning how to cook.

Michael


for some strange reason my mom always thought I couldn't cook. I never
understood that. Being a quiet kid I never said anything about it. When I
got
hitched and moved out my MIL got me the Betty Crocker cookbook. 12 years
later
that is one of my most used books. It's got all the very basic info I
needed
to get started. I still refer to it for cooking times and basic info about
veggies or meat cuts or whatever. I have a million other cookbooks great
and
small that I reference, but good old Betty has a place in my heart. One of
these days I should pick up JOC, but I'm really visual and I like pics and
I
don't recall that my mom's well worn copy had any. Am I wrong?

You're right - JOC has a few line drawings, but nothing very detailed. You'd
hate "In Nonna's Kitchen" if you need pictures to cook. But, you'd love the
tastes. Buy it.

"ensenadajim" wrote in message
...

I had an interesting conversation with my 84-year-old mother about
this "dummying down" of cookbooks. From her perspective, it has to do
with more than a full generation being brought up on fast food,
microwave and throw-in-the-oven dinners. Far too many young ones have
not been taught the rudiments of boiling water, let alone any cooking
that is pointed in the direction of serious cooking.


jim


Tell your mother she's brilliant. I told my son tonight that if he went off
to college without knowing how to make a dozen basic things without recipes,
I'd smother him with a pillow. :-)

"The Bubbo" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"~patches~" wrote in message
...

Honest to goodness, I came across a website with some pretty good
recipes.
All the baked recipes started with *Check the oven for any pot or pans,
once cleared, turn oven to...* I know I bookmarked it in one of the
browsers so I'll post the link when I find it. Really though, careful
directions are better than vague ones.


I have a recipe for cardamom cake. I use twice as much cardamom as the
original recipe called for, so when I share the recipe, I make it clear
that
1 measure is what the original recipe said, and 2 measures is what I
use -
"start with one and double it if you like the taste and make the cake
again". Gave it to a friend who made like this decision was a major life
crisis. We were on the phone for 20 minutes about THIS ONE THING.
"Well....what should I do???? Do you think I'll like it with 2
measures???"

sigh.....



well, duh, make it with two! Nothing is harmed by more cardamom!!!
NOTHING!!!!

Am I the only one here who has the lasagna retard post stuck in his mind? A
few months back, right here in this newsgroup: "Can you make lasagna at
home? How?" I want to find that person and see if it can count to two, and
finds its own toes.

wrote:
Apparently women many women today would rather get an education and
have a career than agonize over "dredging." Good for us. In
addition, there still are parents who need to work long and hard to
keep up and cooking is the least of their worries.

I know that any partner of mine has to be a good cook, plain and simple.
I love food too much.

Orlando

wrote:
Lidia: Young people. They're busy working, they're bombarded with ethnic
cuisines and they try to do it all. They should focus on a single one --
like Italian. They should just get in there and do it.

Does anyone else think Americans are bombarded with ethnic cuisines? I
know I grew up primarily with Dominican, Puerto Rican, Cuban and Italian
foods, although my family liked foods from other cultures and my mother
often learned to cook foods about which I'd inquired or in which I'd
expressed some interest.

Orlando

wrote:
You'd be surprised at how many women have educations, have careers, and
have kids yet still find the time to cook. If anything the cooking
skills have increased in this segment of the population. Educated
people in general tend to be more health conscious. Educated people
with careers tend to have more money so can buy more exotic ingredients
if they choose without the worry of breaking the bank. There are stats
on educated vs uneducated that indicate both of theses comments. I'll
try to find the link.

I doubt that the original article meant that recipes had to be dumbed
down for educated cooks. I mean, if you don't know what "cream
together" or "sear" mean and can use a computer, you'll find out in five
seconds. I think this article was lamenting the lack of skills of less
educated folks with fewer resources to look up cooking terms.

Orlando

wff_ng_7 wrote:

"~patches~" wrote:

Squirrels are funny! I toss out peanuts to the blue jays so one Christmas
I got the idea to put out the leftover Christmas nuts. DH was not amused
cleaning them out of the downspout We live on the water now so have a
problem feeding wildlife although I still toss our peanuts to the blue
jays each morning. I have one fat blue jay that follows me around when
I'm outside, bold as anything! DH said no bird feeders as we've had a
rodent problem and we do have a lot of other wildlife.


We learned our lesson about feeding squirrels many years ago. You can
actually get them to take the peanut out of your hand. They get very
friendly. In fact, way too friendly. Eventually they would sit on the
railing on our front steps waiting for a handout. The last straw with my
mother was when she wanted to go out shopping one day, and there was a
squirrel spread eagled on the screen door. She couldn't get out. No more
feeding the squirrels after that episode!


That would be a funny sight!

"~patches~" wrote

wff_ng_7 wrote:

railing on our front steps waiting for a handout. The last straw with my
mother was when she wanted to go out shopping one day, and there was a
squirrel spread eagled on the screen door. She couldn't get out. No more
feeding the squirrels after that episode!

That would be a funny sight!

I couldn't believe it, I had a squirrel started banging on the
kitchen window over the sink. Cracked me up. It would
run a safe distance away when I came over. Hop from foot
to foot hoping I'd put out peanuts.

nancy

I learned my lesson with tree rats the first year I lived here. They're
cute but Gawd. I saw one snatch a sandwich off the neighbors patio table
and run up a light post. Steven is a softie. He still puts out (I think
it's called) seed corn cobs for them. I no longer feed them from the
house. They are thieves

Michael

Yes, they ate thru my plastic garbage cans, destroying them, and eating my
collected walnuts. From then on, they could have them off the ground. This
way, they aerate the earth, but try as they may, they cannot get at the bird
food anymore. We finally outsmarted them. They are like rats to me -- not
cute.
The other day we were driving down the driveway, when all of a sudden one
who had been running away from our car, all of a sudden did a flip-flop
upside down and ran to the driveway and underneath our car, but escaped
death -- ran immediately up a tree and furtively looked at us. Wonder where
the word, squirrely, comes from.
Dee Dee

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" wrote in message
.. .
wrote:
You'd be surprised at how many women have educations, have careers, and
have kids yet still find the time to cook. If anything the cooking
skills have increased in this segment of the population. Educated
people in general tend to be more health conscious. Educated people
with careers tend to have more money so can buy more exotic ingredients
if they choose without the worry of breaking the bank. There are stats
on educated vs uneducated that indicate both of theses comments. I'll
try to find the link.

I doubt that the original article meant that recipes had to be dumbed
down for educated cooks. I mean, if you don't know what "cream
together" or "sear" mean and can use a computer, you'll find out in five
seconds. I think this article was lamenting the lack of skills of less
educated folks with fewer resources to look up cooking terms.

Orlando

I've found that as long as you don't choose an insanely busy time to ask,
many restaurant chefs will step out of the kitchen to answer a quick
question. I know a couple of professionally trained chefs, and when I've
asked about certain things, it's been hard to get them to shut up. :-) Sort
of like gardeners, fishing addicts, and most other happy obsessions.

"Dee Randall" wrote:
Yes, they ate thru my plastic garbage cans, destroying them, and eating my
collected walnuts.

It's amazing the sense of smell they have, and what persistence they have to
get at what they smell. Around here we just use trash bags, which makes it
relatively easy for them. One day a squirrel smelled an empty peanut butter
jar in my neighbor's trash, got it out, and carried it onto my patio (under
the "squirrel central" tree). I picked the jar up, double wrapped it, and
put it inside my trash bag. So there were now three layers of plastic bag
around that peanut butter jar. But still the squirrels could smell it, and
they dug that jar out of my trash bag! I did find a way to dissuade them...
putting some ammonia on the objects in the trash bag that they might like
(anything nut related, including nut shells). Either they really hate that
smell, or it fouls up their sense of smell so they can't detect the nut
odor.

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