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Storing sour cream upside down prevents spoilage?



 
 
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Old 18-03-2006, 10:24 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?
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Old 18-03-2006, 10:26 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Abe wrote:
Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


that has been my experience (unopened, at least).

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Old 18-03-2006, 11:35 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Abe wrote:
Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


What prompts you to ask this?

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Old 18-03-2006, 11:59 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Storing sour cream upside down prevents spoilage?

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?

What prompts you to ask this?

I heard it on a late night infomercial for a book of household hints.
I was wondering if it's true or not.

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Old 19-03-2006, 01:00 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I buy cottage cheese in half-gallon containers and store it upside down.
Been doing it so long I forget the reason why, but it stays fresh for long
periods without mold.
Lefty
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Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?



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Old 19-03-2006, 01:17 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Abe wrote:

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


How long are you trying to keep it for?

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Old 19-03-2006, 02:36 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default Storing sour cream upside down prevents spoilage?

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?

How long are you trying to keep it for?

Supposedly makes it last a week or 2 longer.
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Old 19-03-2006, 04:08 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Abe" wrote in message
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Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?

How long are you trying to keep it for?

Supposedly makes it last a week or 2 longer.


Perhaps this is why ALL the sour cream at Costco is leaking down the sides
and edges of the container. A while back a checker when checking out my
sour cream or ricotta turned it upside down. I asked her why she did that;
I really can't remember exactly what she said, but I didn't connect it with
the messy containers. I've been refusing to buy their sour cream, but this
week I noticed that they weren't messy. Perhaps the lids are on tighter, or
someone doesn't know this secret. I've not heard of it before.
Dee Dee


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Old 19-03-2006, 04:59 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Abe wrote in news:f12p12p3prga7utheql63e7blov78gedgf@
4ax.com:

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


From http://ww3.komotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1454284
How to make just about everything in the refrigerator stay fresh longer.
After it is opened just store it upside down. I have tested this with
Milk, Sour Cream, Dip, Applesauce, Jelly, Jam, Pickles, Peppers and more.
If you can't store it upside down “milk for instance” store it on it’s
side just make sure that the liquid covers the cap. When storing anything
upside down try to make sure that the contents sink to the “Top” to
create a “seal”. The reason this works is bacteria needs to “land” on
food and needs air to grow. This method stops both.

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Charles
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at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein

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Old 19-03-2006, 05:12 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Sat 18 Mar 2006 09:59:32p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Charles
Quinn?

Abe wrote in news:f12p12p3prga7utheql63e7blov78gedgf@
4ax.com:

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


From http://ww3.komotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1454284
How to make just about everything in the refrigerator stay fresh longer.
After it is opened just store it upside down. I have tested this with
Milk, Sour Cream, Dip, Applesauce, Jelly, Jam, Pickles, Peppers and more.
If you can't store it upside down “milk for instance” store it on it’s
side just make sure that the liquid covers the cap. When storing anything
upside down try to make sure that the contents sink to the “Top” to
create a “seal”. The reason this works is bacteria needs to “land” on
food and needs air to grow. This method stops both.


Not disputing this, but why doesn't a well-sealed container do the same?

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Old 19-03-2006, 07:51 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Charles Quinn wrote:
Abe wrote in news:f12p12p3prga7utheql63e7blov78gedgf@
4ax.com:

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


From http://ww3.komotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1454284
How to make just about everything in the refrigerator stay fresh longer.
After it is opened just store it upside down. I have tested this with
Milk, Sour Cream, Dip, Applesauce, Jelly, Jam, Pickles, Peppers and more.
If you can't store it upside down “milk for instance” store it on it’s
side just make sure that the liquid covers the cap. When storing anything
upside down try to make sure that the contents sink to the “Top” to
create a “seal”. The reason this works is bacteria needs to “land” on
food and needs air to grow. This method stops both.


Forgive me, but I think that's a silly rationale. A closed container
already has a "seal." The closure.

Once the container is open, bacteria have already gotten in. Before it's
open, unless it's been deliberately processed to kill bacteria
(pasteurized) it already has them in it. Milk will spoil without ever
being opened.

In every opened container, there's already air in it. In many
still-closed containers, there's already air in it - that milk above
isn't filled to the very top.

I can't see any bacteriological reason to do this. I can't see any "air"
reason to do this. If the container is closed tightly enough to not
leak, getting contents to rest against the inside of that doesn't give a
*more closed* closure.

I'd need a lot better information that that quotation above to begin to
credit it with any rationality. That web site has a lot of downright
wrong information.

"Bread: Put your bread in the fridge and it will keep fresh well past
the date." It actually gets stale faster than if stored at room temp.
The only reason to refrigerate bread is to postpone molding.

"To keep champagne bubbly after opening and serving the first glass,
place a spoon handle, or a fork handle, whichever fits into neck of
bottle and your champagne will remain bubbly even until the next morning
to serve at breakfast." Pure nonsense. The laws of physics don't change
because there's a spoon nearby.

"Lettuce: To keep a head of lettuce fresh, completely wrap it in a paper
towel and put it in a zip lock bag. I have had lettuce last over a
month!" And in a deliberate experiment I did with several heads of
romaine lettuce, they all lasted several weeks except the one I left
completely uncovered. The carefully wrapped ones lasted nearly as long
as the ones I left in the Costco plastic bag I bought them in.

"Potato Chips: If you have a bunch of potato chip bags open simply roll
them up and throw them in the freezer. This will keep them fresh a lot
longer." Somebody do that and tell me that they're "fresh."

That site is twaddle of many a purest ray serene.

Pastorio
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Old 19-03-2006, 08:40 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Bob Pastorio wrote:

I can't see any bacteriological reason to do this. I can't see any "air"
reason to do this. If the container is closed tightly enough to not leak,
getting contents to rest against the inside of that doesn't give a *more
closed* closure.


The only *possible* rationale that I could come up with -- and I'm not
claiming it's valid -- is that when you open a container of some semi-solid
product, environmental pathogens are introduced to the exposed surface of
the product. When you put the lid back on and turn it upside down, those
pathogens (or most of them, anyway) are no longer exposed to the air inside
the container. If they're aerobic, their growth will be slowed, at least.
But of course there are plenty of nasty anaerobic bugs (botulism, for one),
the whole argument completely falls apart if you're talking about something
with low viscosity, and even if the product *is* semi-solid, there will
still be bubbles containing air and those pathogens. Besides, as you
mentioned, unless the package has been specially treated (e.g. UHT milk)
there are already pathogens in the product.


That site is twaddle of many a purest ray serene.


Well, thank goodness for THAT! The last thing we need around here is
contaminated twaddle! :-)

Bob


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Old 19-03-2006, 02:13 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Charles Quinn" wrote in message
25.201...
Abe wrote in news:f12p12p3prga7utheql63e7blov78gedgf@
4ax.com:

Does storing plastic containers with sour cream or cottage cheese
upside down in the fridge really make it last longer?


From http://ww3.komotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1454284
How to make just about everything in the refrigerator stay fresh longer.
After it is opened just store it upside down. I have tested this with
Milk, Sour Cream, Dip, Applesauce, Jelly, Jam, Pickles, Peppers and more.
If you can't store it upside down "milk for instance" store it on it's
side just make sure that the liquid covers the cap. When storing anything
upside down try to make sure that the contents sink to the "Top" to
create a "seal". The reason this works is bacteria needs to "land" on
food and needs air to grow. This method stops both.

--

Charles
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at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein



Thanks, Charles,

Geez, I'm thinking maybe I should put these items that I always seem to have
to use up at the ending date into my vacuum packing containers -- but would
be a real PITA, I should add. The items I keep on hand and never seem to
get used up before they go bad:

heavy cream
ricotta
sour cream

I have added 'vacuum' lids to the huge (Costco) jars of kalamata olives and
I don't get the scum on them anymore (not that the scum will hurt you). I
add the vacuum lid to jam also. Not that my jam ever went bad -- tee hee.
I've added the vacuum lids to expensive tiny jars of chutneys, bruschetta's,
that type of thing before, too.

So -- you're saying that keeping the upside down keeps the air out from
BETWEEN the jar lid and the product will do trick. I see.


Re the hint:
"Frozen Goods: Put an ice chest with some ice in your car the next time you
go grocery shopping, and ask the bag boy to put all the cold & frozen items
together in the bags, so you can fit them in the ice chest for the ride
home, especially in hot weather. The food will keep much longer without
having been subjected to the heat, even for a few minutes. Ed Jackson, AL"

We always carry an ice check with ice blocks, no matter what the weather.
Traveling all day even in cold weather, it makes a fortified container for
soft goods and can be packed nicely with produce not to be smashed.

Dee Dee


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Old 19-03-2006, 02:43 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Dee Randall" wrote:

Charles
The significant problems we face cannot be solved
at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein



Thanks, Charles,

Geez, I'm thinking maybe I should put these items that I always seem to have
to use up at the ending date into my vacuum packing containers -- but would
be a real PITA, I should add. The items I keep on hand and never seem to
get used up before they go bad:

heavy cream
ricotta
sour cream


Dee.

Ricotta and heavy cream can both be frozen.

I buy sour cream in 8 oz. containers......

Cheers!
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I'll say "whoops" for you Dee :-)

I'm wondering about how the "earth as spherical theory" is seen as wrong. I
guess I will get the book.
Lefty
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"Dee Randall" wrote in message
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Charles
The significant problems we face cannot be solved
at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein


***

Here is a similar idea expressed

The young specialist in English Lit, ...lectured me severely

on the fact that in every century people have thought they understood

the Universe at last, and in every century they were proved to be

wrong. It follows that the one thing we can say about our modern

"knowledge" is that it is wrong.



... My answer to him was, "... when people thought the Earth

was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical

they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical

is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is

wronger than both of them put together."

--Isaac Asimov,The Relativity of Wrong, Kensington Books, New

York, 1996, p 226











 




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