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Old 11-03-2006, 09:04 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
jay
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What is an authentic hamburger?
What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?

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Old 11-03-2006, 09:42 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
notbob
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On 2006-03-11, jay wrote:

What is an authentic hamburger?
What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?


There used to be a poster of a blueprint for the perfect hamburger.
I've been unable to find it on the net, so far. But, I did find this
site, which is a hoot:

http://www.ahamburgertoday.com/

still lookin'...
nb
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:05 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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jay wrote:

What is an authentic hamburger?
What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?


I can't answer as to authentic but we like homemade patties on homemade
buns topped with a combination of any of the following: mayo, cheese,
mustard, ketchup, relish, dill pickles, hot peppers, onions either raw
or sauteed, sauteed mushrooms, lettuce something more substantial than
iceberg, tomatoes, bacon. DH makes the very best burgers! They end up
being about 1/2 lb cooked patties, nice and thick and juicy! I'm in
charge of making the buns and I make up bowls of the additions then we
let each top their own. IMO ingredients stacked on top depends on your
tastes. Since cheese is put on while the burger is still on the grill,
cheese is first. Then it's up to who is eating it as to order. My
order is mayo each side of the bun, add pattie with cheese, lettuce,
tomato, onion, mushrooms, dill pickles, hot peppers, mustard. I don't
care for bacon on my burger. With DH's burgers, I can only eat half so
I usually cut my burger in half and dress one half then save the other
half for later or share with another who only wants half.

We frequent a pub who's burgers are a close second to DH's. They are
also 1/2 lb. The are served cut in half with a side of dill pickle
rounds and raw spanish onions. Toppings include your choice of cheese,
mushrooms, bacon or combination thereof. Condiments are ketchup and
mustard.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:10 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_1_]
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Default burgers 101 ?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:04:40 GMT, jay wrote:


What is an authentic hamburger?


I take it you're not American.

What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?


What I like may not be what someone else likes. My current favorite
hamburger palace literally has a salad bar to choose from for
toppings. It's still "authentic". Personally, if I was limited....
it would be "good" mustard, onion, lettuce and a slice of tomato.
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:44 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Steve Wertz wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:04:40 GMT, jay wrote:


What is an authentic hamburger?
What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?



Everyone knows the best hamburger is made from St. Bernard meat
and Heinz ketchup.


Not true. I have homemade ketchup that will kick Heinz's butt big time!
It is excellent on homemade burgers. I also have a ketchup made from
green tomatoes that would beat Heinz hands down.

This is a newbie post - the kind you get from WebTV'ers and
AOL'ers that just want to see what kind of thread they can
produce.


Oh come on! Where is your sense of humour?


I expected better of you, Jay. I see I still have some work to
do. I've been giving you too much free reign lately.

-sw

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Old 11-03-2006, 10:51 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
jay
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Default burgers 101 ?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:42:44 -0600, notbob wrote:

On 2006-03-11, jay wrote:

But, I did find this
site, which is a hoot:

http://www.ahamburgertoday.com/

still lookin'...
nb


Thanks.. that is a GOOD one!
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:43 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Michel Boucher
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sf wrote in
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What is an authentic hamburger?


I take it you're not American.


Odd thing to say when that would apply to nearly 96% of the world's
population.

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"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why
the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

Dom Helder Camara
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:43 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Michel Boucher
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Steve Wertz wrote in
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the best hamburger is made from St. Bernard meat


I draw the line at eating dog.

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the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

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Old 12-03-2006, 12:06 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_1_]
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:42:44 -0600, notbob wrote:

On 2006-03-11, jay wrote:

What is an authentic hamburger?
What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?


There used to be a poster of a blueprint for the perfect hamburger.
I've been unable to find it on the net, so far. But, I did find this
site, which is a hoot:

I LOVE that poster! I never saw it for sale, only framed in burger
joints. There was a series, but I can't tell you what the others were
now.
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Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:08 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_1_]
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:42:44 -0600, notbob wrote:

On 2006-03-11, jay wrote:

What is an authentic hamburger?
What ingredients are included on an "authentic" hamburger?
Is there a particular order in which the ingredients must be "stacked" on
an authentic hamburger?


There used to be a poster of a blueprint for the perfect hamburger.
I've been unable to find it on the net, so far. But, I did find this
site, which is a hoot:

http://www.ahamburgertoday.com/

still lookin'...


this is better, but still not it....
http://www.dailywriting.net/burgerblueprnt.gif

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Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:12 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_1_]
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:44:28 -0500, ~patches~ wrote:

I have homemade ketchup that will kick Heinz's butt big time!
It is excellent on homemade burgers.


Oh yeah? So, post the recipe hot shot.

sf
ducking and running

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Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:39 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
jay
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:04:40 +0000, jay wrote:

Argument still going on here.. fixing hamburgers for ~ 60 people of varied
origins. I thought we had everything and anything that one could
possibly think of to put between 2 buns.g nearly?? Still some "do you
have any___ will happen" Sounds like patches has her act together in
regard to the burger. ( DH ..is getting around..lot of people cooking for
him) Maybe notbob will find the poster on line.

I think it should go this way. Home ground chuck (80/15) or somewhere
around that mix. Never have made the buns.. (sorry patches you win that
one)..soft bun with no seeds. Ingredients should be the usual lettuce,
tomato, pickles(jalapeños are OK), onion, cheddar, (or nearly any cheese)
mayonnaise and yellow mustard. The stacking order has to be this way...


Bottom bun toasted, mustard, pickles against the mustard (or pickled
jalapeños), 1/3 pound of beef cooked to your liking, cheese on beef,
onions on beef or cheese, lettuce, tomato on top against the mayonnaise on
top toasted bun.

Exact same ingredients list..stacked differently..completely different
tasting sandwich/burger.

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Old 12-03-2006, 12:40 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
sf[_1_]
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:43:27 -0600, Michel Boucher wrote:

sf wrote in
:

What is an authentic hamburger?


I take it you're not American.


Odd thing to say when that would apply to nearly 96% of the world's
population


As a stupid question and you get a stupid answer.
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Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:49 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
notbob
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On 2006-03-11, sf wrote:

this is better, but still not it....
http://www.dailywriting.net/burgerblueprnt.gif


Yeah, sf. Not the one I remember, but close.

nb
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Old 12-03-2006, 01:40 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
~patches~[_1_]
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sf wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:44:28 -0500, ~patches~ wrote:


I have homemade ketchup that will kick Heinz's butt big time!
It is excellent on homemade burgers.



Oh yeah? So, post the recipe hot shot.

sf
ducking and running


Hey, you want it I can post it!
 




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