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  #91 (permalink)  
Old 10-03-2006, 08:49 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,alt.religion.kibology
David DeLaney
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Glitter Ninja wrote:

EEEEEE!!!1!

"Bob (this one)" writes:
Glitter Ninja wrote:


eeeeee111!1

I can't imagine being able to make a patty by hand that was as small
as a fast food patty.

What a perfectly silly thing to say. All it takes is a scale.

Right. I just can't do math, that's the problem.
Or is it that you responded with a whiny little complaint before you
read the whole post? Because later you comment on what I *really* said:
I have trouble keeping a patty that's 1/5th of a pound from falling
apart!

See? Just in case you didn't get that, let me break it down for you,
Sparky: It's not that I can't read a scale, it's that a small patty with
no binder or fillers often falls apart. But who can argue with your
definitive advice:
Really? Then just smoosh it together a bit more.

OH WHAT A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU MR. AMAZING COOKING MAN.
Are you for real? You tell me to "smoosh" the meat more -- and I can
assure you that I am very skilled at smooshing meat -- and then complain
that:
And this kind of nonsense is exactly what I was talking about.

Indeed. It's nonsense like your ridiculous claim that I don't know
how to smoosh meat ("smoosh" being the scientific term) correctly that's
the real problem here.


Oh. Oh oh oh. FEEL the hate. I'm bathing in its glorious black-and-white glow
RIGHT NOW.

We've missed you lotsnlots, Stacia!

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you were previously embattling, ah well" DeLaney
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  #92 (permalink)  
Old 10-03-2006, 08:52 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Nancy Young wrote:

Who f***in crossposted this? Dammit.



Glitter Ninja. To a troll group no less.

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  #93 (permalink)  
Old 10-03-2006, 09:14 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Nancy Young[_1_]
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"Glitter Ninja" wrote in message
...
"Nancy Young" writes:

Who f***in crossposted this? Dammit.


Originally it was posted to rfc and alt.fast-food or something,


No. It was not. I am the OP.

nancy


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Old 10-03-2006, 09:22 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Glitter Ninja
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"Nancy Young" writes:
"Glitter Ninja" wrote:
"Nancy Young" writes:

Who f***in crossposted this? Dammit.


Originally it was posted to rfc and alt.fast-food or something,


No. It was not. I am the OP.


This thread was indeed crossposted to alt.food.fast-food. Check
Google. If you didn't originally crosspost it there, that's fine, but
it was crossposted by someone else during the duration of the thread.
And since you seemed legitimately unable to determine who crossposted, I
gave you a complete answer -- it was crossposted to a.f.f-f once, and to
ARK once.

Stacia

  #96 (permalink)  
Old 10-03-2006, 09:24 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Nancy Young[_1_]
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"Glitter Ninja" wrote

This thread was indeed crossposted to alt.food.fast-food. Check
Google. If you didn't originally crosspost it there, that's fine, but
it was crossposted by someone else during the duration of the thread.
And since you seemed legitimately unable to determine who crossposted, I
gave you a complete answer -- it was crossposted to a.f.f-f once, and to
ARK once.


I have trolls killfiled, sometimes they are the cause of the crosspost.
I really didn't expect you did it. I didn't. I'm very surprised.

nancy



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Old 10-03-2006, 09:31 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Glitter Ninja
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"Nancy Young" writes:

I have trolls killfiled, sometimes they are the cause of the crosspost.
I really didn't expect you did it. I didn't. I'm very surprised.


Eh, feel free to killfile me. While it's not common, I've definitely
crossposted ark and rfc before. It's no skin off my nose if you want to
kf me for it if it upsets you.
I did it because the thread had degenerated into "(this one)" calling
my meat smooshing abilities into question, and the thread had been
crossposted before. Plus I thought Kibo would have some burger facts he
could interject with. Seriously, he's gone off on huge posts about how
McD's mechanically processes their food, and I thought he might love
this topic.

Stacia

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Old 10-03-2006, 09:34 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Nancy Young[_1_]
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"Glitter Ninja" wrote

"Nancy Young" writes:

I have trolls killfiled, sometimes they are the cause of the crosspost.
I really didn't expect you did it. I didn't. I'm very surprised.


Eh, feel free to killfile me. While it's not common, I've definitely
crossposted ark and rfc before. It's no skin off my nose if you want to
kf me for it if it upsets you.


Obviously.

nancy


  #99 (permalink)  
Old 10-03-2006, 09:52 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Glitter Ninja wrote:
"Nancy Young" writes:

Bun/meat ratio ... even if I used the same amount of beef as the
fast food place, I'd use less bread.


I can't imagine being able to make a patty by hand that was as small
as a fast food patty. My husband worked at a small town burger joint as
a kid, and his boss always bragged that they bought patties which were
1/10th of a pound each, while McD's used patties which weighed 1/12th of
a pound. I have trouble keeping a patty that's 1/5th of a pound from
falling apart!


Mmm. Krazy Jim's Blimpy Burgers.

They take a 0.1-lb ball of meat, mash it on the grill (griddle,
actually) with a
stiff spatula. You can get doubles, triples, quads, or quints,
referring to the
number of miniature patties that show up inside the bun. They grind
the meat
in-house. Heaven! The grease runs right down your arm.

You're probably right that less than 1/5 lb can't be patted into a
burger. Alton
Brown's "Man Food Show" makes sliders by rolling ground meat like a pie
crust
between two sheets of plastic wrap, if memory serves.

Cindy Hamilton

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Old 10-03-2006, 10:00 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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notbob wrote:
On 2006-03-10, Bob (this one) wrote:

Beef. Bread. What's to be better?


Lettuce, tomato, cheese, relish, onions, condiments, etc.

Freshly cooked burgers from any of the burger places aren't dry, either.


Since the new temperature/time rules eliminating the threat of e-coli
have been instituted, burgers are cooked more done than I prefer.
Another reason why moisture contributing elements like tomatoes and
onions are more desirable than ever.


Come on up to Michigan. Provided you avoid chain restaurants
(especially
those based in California), you can get your burger cooked any way you
want.
Menus are required to have some boilerplate about the risk of eating
undercooked food, but any restaurant you'd actually want to order a
burger
from will cook it as rare as you like.

Cindy Hamilton

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Old 10-03-2006, 10:37 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,alt.religion.kibology
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:05:30 -0500, Otto Bahn wrote:

YAAAAAYYYY! Kerri *and* Stacia return to ARK! Now all we need is
Seth and my living room suite will be complete.


IFYPFY.
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  #103 (permalink)  
Old 11-03-2006, 12:28 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Roberta wrote:
notbob wrote:

On 2006-03-08, Nancy Young wrote:

I got a jones for a fast food burger, I'm sure it has nothing to
do with me raking in the nice cool air.



No, it's natural outgrowth of living in a instant gratification
consumer society. I've learned to give in immediately. If I suppress
it, it grows and grows till I have one big giant burger jones and
hafta go around scarfing burgers for about month. Be forwarned.

lukewarm Big Mac n fries, also lukewarm....



One of the reasons I don't frequent the top burger chains (McD, Wndy,
BK, JITB, etc). They typically make too many and put them under heat
lamps to rot. Getting a fresh one at these places is a crap shoot.
Find a burger joint that will not start cooking your order until you
order it. It may take a little longer, but the wait is worth it.
We still have some smaller local chains that do this. I find older
chains like Foster's Freeze still operate this way and provide a
freshly cooked burger. Another local chain, In and Out, is so well
liked that it always has a line and never has burgers on hold. If
necessary, find a small local non-chain burger joint. It will
probably costs a little more, but is usually worth it. Whatever you
do, avoid like the plague those bogus gourmet burger places that
charge big bucks, then let you make up your own burger. Whatta scam.

Geez, now I'm dyin' for a burger. See what you did!

nb



Another good way to get a fresh burger is to special order it - just
ask for something to be left off or add something extra...then they have
to make it fresh. If you get one of the big one's (such as the
"Whopper") you can ask for it to be cut in half. I had the unfortunate
pleasure of working at a fast food place in college - these are a few
things I picked up back then. As for the fry thing - I haven't figured
out how to get fresh ones without going back up to the counter and
telling them you want hot fries...

Roberta (in VA)

Tell them you want your fries with no salt. They always come fresh and
hot when I do this whether from a FF place or restaurant.
  #104 (permalink)  
Old 11-03-2006, 02:05 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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notbob wrote:
On 2006-03-10, Nancy Young wrote:

So ... I'll just leave it here. Bob can't make a better burger
using those two ingredients than McDonalds can.


If he can't, it doesn't say much about his expertise as a restauranteer.


Restaurateur...

How lame...

Pastorio
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Old 11-03-2006, 02:41 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Nancy Young wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote

Nancy Young wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote


Look, I am the first to admit I have a fast food burger once
in a while, I'm not ashamed. But I know full well even the *most*
basic burger I could make at home would be a world better than
what we're talking about.


Beef. Bread. What's to be better?


So ... I'll just leave it here.


Nancy, that was an actual question. I distinguished between actual
"quality" criteria and "suits me" criteria. Better can either mean "more
to my liking" or "higher quality" - judged against objective criteria.
Your comments fell within the "suits me" category.

No comment on the nature/cuts of the meat. No comment on the grade of
meat or how it was ground/chopped. No comment on the nature/ingredients
of the breads used. They would all be quality assessments.

Bob can't make a better burger
using those two ingredients than McDonalds can. You win.


Puhleeeze.

There was no contest. I offered a different view and asked a few
questions, that's all.

Pastorio
 




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