On 2006-03-09, Doug Weller wrote:

I've noticed the Subway shops are rapidly increasing as well, they seem to
be almost as prolific as Starbucks.

That's because Subway, like some other greedy franchises before them,
will happily oversell their franchise. Subway franchisee's here in
the States have filed major lawsuits againt the company. One guy
bought a Subway franchise only to see a new one pop across the street
within a year!!

On Thu 09 Mar 2006 04:43:27a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it big fish?


Now I see the dropdown menu in REGION! and found a bunch in New Jersey.
There might be one as we pass thru NJ as there are a number of them in
NJ. Thanks for helping me, Ma-der-a.
Dee Dee


I live in South Western Ohio and we are blessed with the White Castle
Chain. They are located throughout the city and surrounding area.
Perfect food for that after-drinking time.

Northeast Ohio also has White Castle in numerous locations. The White Castle
headquarters was moved to Columbus, OH many years ago.

--
Wayne Boatwright o¿o
____________________

BIOYA

Alright, anyone who ends up in my end of the woods and wants a burger
should go to either the Tides Tavern or Sunset Grill. Both have
excellent burgers, substantial portions, and are infinitely better than
fast food, but will still end up coming to your table relatively
quickly. You can call ahead and get take out from the Tides, I've never
done that at Sunset Grill. Also, the fish and chips at the Tides is
wonderful and I crave it.

Regards,
Ranee

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"notbob" wrote

That's because Subway, like some other greedy franchises before them,
will happily oversell their franchise. Subway franchisee's here in
the States have filed major lawsuits againt the company. One guy
bought a Subway franchise only to see a new one pop across the street
within a year!!

Well, I'm not plonking down whatever gazillion dollars on a
franchise without a guarantee of no other one within a certain
number of miles/whatever. I thought that was the usual deal.
Talk about buyer beware.

nancy

notbob wrote:

I've noticed the Subway shops are rapidly increasing as well, they seem to
be almost as prolific as Starbucks.

That's because Subway, like some other greedy franchises before them,
will happily oversell their franchise. Subway franchisee's here in
the States have filed major lawsuits againt the company. One guy
bought a Subway franchise only to see a new one pop across the street
within a year!!

Starbucks is not prolific here. There are two of them in the city of 130,000
near me. They don't stand a chance of competing against Tim Hortons. Around
here it is Hortons that is popping up everywhere. My little town of 15,000 has
Tim Hortons outlets and the city nearest me has 2 of them on the main entrance
road with all the other franchises fast food places, another one round the
corner and 4 more in the city of 45,000. Then there is Hamilton where it is
hard to find an intersection and not see a Tim Hortons within walking distance.

The dirtiest deal I ever say was with a smaller donut store franchise. There was
a franchise operation on a busy intersection. The company opened up a company
run store across the street. Both went under.

Faux_Pseudo wrote:

_.-In rec.food.cooking, Mark D wrote the following -._
Mc D's hasn't just got bad, they've been crap for the last 35 years.
Ever wonder why Mc D's now buys their Beef from Argentina?

Argentina has really good beef. Argentinians know their beef, they
eat more of it per capita than Americans do.

Their Burgers don't even taste like Beef anymore,

That is because most of their burgers aren't beef. Unless it is one
of the ones advertised as 'all beef' it is about half soy. The QP, BM
and B&T are all beef but I think the rest are soy/meat mix.

You have some evidence for that? I've never heard such a claim and I
doubt it's true.


Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Nancy Young wrote:


"notbob" wrote

That's because Subway, like some other greedy franchises before
them, will happily oversell their franchise. Subway franchisee's
here in the States have filed major lawsuits againt the company.
One guy bought a Subway franchise only to see a new one pop across
the street within a year!!

Well, I'm not plonking down whatever gazillion dollars on a
franchise without a guarantee of no other one within a certain
number of miles/whatever. I thought that was the usual deal.
Talk about buyer beware.

A guy at work used a court settlement to buy an exclusive franchise
territory from Little Caesar's (worst pizza in my opinion). Later he
found out that didn't include company-owned stores, just other
franchisers.



Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Argentinian beef is some of the best in the world. On average it's a LOT
better than US beef.
Bob
======================================Is that a fact? I personally
can't say yes, or no to that, as I've never tasted a prime Filet, or
prime Porterhouse that came from Argentina? Have you?

The best beef I ever had in my life, was either from the both long gone
Stock Yard Inn, or Barneys in Chicago.

The Steaks at Stock Yard Inn came from Blue Ribbon Steer, and you
literally "Branded" your own Sreak, it was dry aged prime.

I would assume even today, places like The Chop House, Ruths Chris,
Magnums, and Gibson's in Chicago are still using good ole US slaughtered
Prime.

I know UK/Europe has bought beef from Argentina for quite some time.

To be honest, one has to wonder exactly what the hell we're eating
nowadays anymore?

Food, and what is avaliable to the general public lately is starting to
remind me of the George Orwell Book "1984".

We're getting fish from China, Africa, South America, and one has to
wonder, what happened to our fish here in US?

The US, and Alaska still have some of the very best fishing resources in
the world, but where is all our good fish going? To Tokyo market the
next morning perhaps? Mark

"Default User" wrote

Nancy Young wrote:

Well, I'm not plonking down whatever gazillion dollars on a
franchise without a guarantee of no other one within a certain
number of miles/whatever. I thought that was the usual deal.
Talk about buyer beware.

A guy at work used a court settlement to buy an exclusive franchise
territory from Little Caesar's (worst pizza in my opinion). Later he
found out that didn't include company-owned stores, just other
franchisers.

NASTY!!!! Shame on them. Man, you need a shark lawyer
with franchise experience if you're going into that game. Wow.

nancy

At McD's, a double cheeseburger, fries, and drink is $3. Hard to beat,
pricewise.
======================================Ahh yes, pricewise, but what about
quality?

I've actually come to believe that people nowadays would actually buy a
burger made from Dogshit if it was priced right?

Same thing with everything else lately.
People I di believe will drive 20 miles to save 50 cents shopping, even
if what they're buying is absolute junk.

Example, our local Wally World, basically the only act in this town used
to carry a really good Apple Pie that stood almost 4" thick, weighed a
ton, and was loaded with delicious tasty apples.

For $6, it didn't get any better, but...... Two weeks ago, they canceled
getting that good Pie, and you know why? Because people in this day,
and age (particularly where I live) have become so dam cheap, and
ignorant, that they're not willing to spend anymore than $2.49.

They lie to themselves telling themselves that 'Oh, this Pie is just as
good". But it ain't!
Mark

Mark D wrote:

Argentinian beef is some of the best in the world. On average it's a LOT
better than US beef.
Bob
======================================Is that a fact? I personally
can't say yes, or no to that, as I've never tasted a prime Filet, or
prime Porterhouse that came from Argentina? Have you?

The best beef I ever had in my life, was either from the both long gone
Stock Yard Inn, or Barneys in Chicago.

The Steaks at Stock Yard Inn came from Blue Ribbon Steer, and you
literally "Branded" your own Sreak, it was dry aged prime.

Best beef in the world........ burgers?
I have heard good things about the beef in Argentina and I have had good
American beef. I'm just wondering if the guys at the beef auctions that are
buying the choicest critters are there representing McDs, Wendys and Burger
King. If it came from something with horns and hoofs it is beef enough for
their burgers.

Mark writes:
Glitter Ninja wrote:

Hey there! I am from the Springfield area (family in Springfield,
Ozark, Bois D'ark, Bolivar, and Lebanon) and, when I was a kid, Steak
'n' Shake was the best chain burger you could get in Springfield. There
was still a Steak 'n' Shake near Drury College a few years ago,

Ah yes, I forgot about Steak 'n' Shake! Their Steakburger is pretty good
indeed, so I change my vote to them for best chain burger around here.
Kinda expensive, but good quality meat. They have good breakfast as
well. I've only lived here since late 2000 but I've been to a few
different locations and for the most part they've been fine. I prefer
either the South Glenstone or South Campbell ones though.

Good to know where the others are. I didn't want to go back to the
one near Drury unless I had to. I was only in the area because I was
looking for my grandma's old house; her neighborhood has "meth lab"
written all over it now. (West Elm street, fwiw.)
I live near Topeka now and there's a local place called Bobo's Drive
In which has good burgers but abyssmal service. It's a drive in still
in the original late 40s building, with a big handpainted menu sign.
Kinda neat to go to, but you're lucky if you actually get any food. The
small Vista chain also has really good burgers. I liked Runza, too, but
they aren't in Kansas anymore.

Stacia

(Glitter Ninja) writes:

Good to know where the others are. I didn't want to go back to the
one near Drury unless I had to. I was only in the area because I was
looking for my grandma's old house; her neighborhood has "meth lab"
written all over it now. (West Elm street, fwiw.)

Thanks to Google Maps, I realize I was totally high when I said there
was a Steak 'n' Shake near Drury. I meant the one near SMSU (my dad
went to both colleges and I got them confused), which is apparently the
one on South Campbell you're talking about.
It's far enough away from Scary Neighborhood (tm) that I probably
shouldn't judge it by its location.

Stacia

Doug Weller wrote in
:

On 8 Mar 2006 11:15:42 -0800, in rec.food.cooking,
wrote:

A friend just told me McDonalds is hitting the skids in England: they
recently closed something like 25 shops.

Starbucks etc. and a lot of good sandwich shops are probably the
culprits. I've noticed the Subway shops are rapidly increasing as
well, they seem to be almost as prolific as Starbucks.

I was wondering if McDonalds there have made any changes to their menus
at all in response to this competition?

McDonalds here now sell a range of "Deli Sandwiches" which are all
freshly made to order, a certain number of which have less than 10g fat
- this was obviously a reaction to competition from Subway. McDonalds
here also have a range of salads, and other healthier items such as
breakfast cereal, fruit, yoghurt etc. They also reduced the sugar content
of the buns IIRC. I rarely go to McDonalds, but have bought a Deli Choice
sandwich on a few occasions. It was comparable to similar sandwiches
bought elsewhere both in quality and price.

http://www.mcdonalds.com.au/

They've also had McCafe for some years, and I've heard a lot of ads
lately touting the coffee at normal McDonalds as well - perhaps that's in
response to the Starbucks which are popping up everywhere g.
--
Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

limey wrote:
"Food Snob" wrote:
Of the big 3, I'd say that Burger King has the best burgers, then
Wendy's, and finally McDonalds.
McDonalds burgers are the greasiest. For fries it would be BK, McD
then Wendy's.
All three have awful "shakes."

--Bryan

Yesterday, CNN conducted a taste test on coffees - three unidentified
carafes, one Dunkin Donuts, one Mickey D's and one BK. The Burger
King coffee won hands down. Funny - I never eat at our local BK
because the food is so dismal. I suppose any of them are only as
good as the management.

Dora

When I was taking classes I stopped at BK and also McD's for coffee in the
morning. I can attest the coffee at McD's is a gazillion degrees. It's
like trying to drink lava. Once it was cooled enough I couldn't tell you if
it was any better or worse than BK's... it's just coffee. Probably Folgers.

Jill