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Old 04-03-2006, 03:28 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Anyone ever make their own cheese...I wouldn't think anyone has...but
you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...

I just think it's interesting.

I'm sure someone makes their own butter...or buttermilk?
My grandmother used to make her own butter, she milked the cow, churned
the milk, and would scoop off the heavy cream. She put the heavy cream
in a jar and would shake it?
soon...even heavier cream came to the top...and buttermilk was left in
the jar.

She put the butter in a mold with a little rose on it...

does anyone even own a cow...lol

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Old 04-03-2006, 03:57 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Ranee Mueller
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In article . com,
"Systemrecovery" wrote:

Anyone ever make their own cheese...I wouldn't think anyone has...but
you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...


We make our own yogurt and have a source for unhomogenized milk that
we keep meaning to use to make cheese, but just end up eating the cream
and drinking the milk.

does anyone even own a cow...lol


No, but if we get a handle on the chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese
bees, and maybe rabbits, we'd like to get a milk cow and a bull for
breeding. Actually, I'd love to have two milk cows, a Dexter and a
Guernsey, but the Guernseys are really expensive. The Dexter bull could
service both, and we could eat the meat from the offspring. This was
our year for chickens. Next year we get the other poultry and the bees.
We'll get blackberry honey and orchard honey. The following year is
when we'd go for either rabbits or go straight for the cows. The kids
are interested in the rabbits, but we could go either way, so if they
aren't as interested in two years, we'll save up for the cattle instead.

Regards,
Ranee

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Old 04-03-2006, 05:31 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Ranee Mueller wrote:
We make our own yogurt and have a source for unhomogenized milk that
we keep meaning to use to make cheese, but just end up eating the cream
and drinking the milk.


lol
i can just imagine it tastes better, and plus you don't get all the
hormones that they proved was in store milk. (where they give them to
the milk cows)

someone told me, I would not like the taste of straight cow milk

does anyone even own a cow...lol


No, but if we get a handle on the chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese
bees, and maybe rabbits, we'd like to get a milk cow and a bull for
breeding.


ha! now have you ever actually milked a cow?

i think you have to warm your hands up, or she will kick the bucket
over

Actually, I'd love to have two milk cows, a Dexter and a
Guernsey,


sounds like a plan! where I live in VA, I would have to have so many
acres per bull and per cow...im not sure the formula...but something
like, 1.5 acres per cow..?...

well..be sure to get a brown cow if you like chocolate milk.

I still haven't figured out, how a black and white cow can eat green
grass and give 32 flavors of ice cream.

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

this is one of my favorite passages. specially where she gets up early
and makes biscuits

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Old 04-03-2006, 01:59 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Systemrecovery wrote:
Anyone ever make their own cheese...I wouldn't think anyone has...but
you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...


There are??
Damn.. Barb Shaller must be making a KILLING on all those dues payments!
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Old 04-03-2006, 05:01 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Systemrecovery wrote:
Anyone ever make their own cheese...I wouldn't think anyone has...but
you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...

I just think it's interesting.

I'm sure someone makes their own butter...or buttermilk?
My grandmother used to make her own butter, she milked the cow, churned
the milk, and would scoop off the heavy cream. She put the heavy cream
in a jar and would shake it?
soon...even heavier cream came to the top...and buttermilk was left in
the jar.

She put the butter in a mold with a little rose on it...

does anyone even own a cow...lol

--


I'm going to try to learn to make goat cheese this spring. David and I went to
a goat farm/b&b for our anniversary last year and in the spring when the goats
have babies they get the milk and make some cheese. They don't do it
commercially anymore so they just do it for themselves in the spring. I'm
hoping to head down there again to learn.

I made my own butter once, threw some heavy cream in the stand mixer with the
paddle attachment. I was underwhelmed by the results. I suspect it would have
tasted better if I started with better quality cream.

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Old 04-03-2006, 05:28 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Ranee Mueller
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In article .com,
"Systemrecovery" wrote:

someone told me, I would not like the taste of straight cow milk


I wonder why they said that?


ha! now have you ever actually milked a cow?

i think you have to warm your hands up, or she will kick the bucket
over


I've never milked a cow, unless you count the demonstration, here you
try, at the fair. However, until this last year, we'd never taken care
of chickens. We researched them and read up for about two years before
we got them, we visited people who raised chickens, etc. We're already
researching cattle, etc, and as we get closer, we will most certainly
learn the practical parts of caring for cattle. We've been looking into
the bees for about a year and a half, and were just waiting until we had
one kind of creature under our belts before we added another.

sounds like a plan! where I live in VA, I would have to have so many
acres per bull and per cow...im not sure the formula...but something
like, 1.5 acres per cow..?...


It shouldn't have to do with what state you live in, but how much
room the cow needs to graze. Dexters require 1/2 an acre a head. The
Guernseys require more like the 1 1/2 you mention. We have about five
acres we can use out here, good pasture too.

Regards,
Ranee

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Old 04-03-2006, 05:29 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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In article ,
Ranee Mueller wrote:

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No, but if we get a handle on the chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese
bees, and maybe rabbits, we'd like to get a milk cow and a bull for
breeding. Actually, I'd love to have two milk cows, a Dexter and a
Guernsey, but the Guernseys are really expensive. The Dexter bull could
service both, and we could eat the meat from the offspring. This was
our year for chickens. Next year we get the other poultry and the bees.
We'll get blackberry honey and orchard honey. The following year is
when we'd go for either rabbits or go straight for the cows. The kids
are interested in the rabbits, but we could go either way, so if they
aren't as interested in two years, we'll save up for the cattle instead.

That's one way to keep the lawn mowed and fertilized. Do you have
enough room at your place for bovines, or would you have to lease
pasture and housing for them? Maybe one of the airplane hangars could
be turned into stalls.;-)

I could see doing having a couple of hens for eggs. Unfortunately, we
have a large number of possums and raccoons in the neighborhood that
would steal eggs, and the random coyote that has killed cats and would
probably dispatch chickens if we didn't house them in a hermetically
sealed compound. If we had ample acreage (fat chance), I'd have goats
for the milk and an occasional Jamaican goat curry or roast cabrito.
I'm tempted to rent goats to take care of the scotch broom and ivy on
the cliff next to our house that threaten to take over the back 40
(square feet) of our yard near the temperamental apricot tree.

Cindy, former farm girl and animal science major

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Old 04-03-2006, 05:46 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I'm going to try to learn to make goat cheese this spring. David and I went to
a goat farm/b&b for our anniversary last year and in the spring when the goats
have babies they get the milk and make some cheese. They don't do it
commercially anymore so they just do it for themselves in the spring. I'm
hoping to head down there again to learn.

I made my own butter once, threw some heavy cream in the stand mixer with the
paddle attachment. I was underwhelmed by the results. I suspect it would have
tasted better if I started with better quality cream.


A dairy expert friend of mine once told me something about "aging" the
cream or the butter or something. I wish I could remember what he said.
It may have been a factor in how your butter tasted.
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Old 04-03-2006, 06:10 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Ranee wrote

I made my own butter once, threw some heavy cream in the stand mixer with
the
paddle attachment. I was underwhelmed by the results. I suspect it would
have
tasted better if I started with better quality cream.


jake wrote:

A dairy expert friend of mine once told me something about "aging" the
cream or the butter or something. I wish I could remember what he said. It
may have been a factor in how your butter tasted.


I asked my farm boy husband, who grew up in Virginia. His family had cows
when he was a child
and his aunt had a Jersey cow all her life.. I watched her make butter when
we were there.

Milking a cow takes strong hands.

DH says you need a separator, to separate the cream from the milk. Put the
cream in a large jar each day until you have accumulated enough to go into
the churn. His aunt, I know, had about a gallon jar. She had a smallish
floor churn, with a hand crank to turn the paddle, and lo and behold there
would be butter. I was a city girl, so this was a fun learning experience
for me. The butter was delicious.

Dora


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Old 04-03-2006, 06:40 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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In article ,
Ranee Mueller wrote:


sounds like a plan! where I live in VA, I would have to have so many
acres per bull and per cow...im not sure the formula...but something
like, 1.5 acres per cow..?...


It shouldn't have to do with what state you live in, but how much
room the cow needs to graze. Dexters require 1/2 an acre a head. The
Guernseys require more like the 1 1/2 you mention. We have about five
acres we can use out here, good pasture too.



It does though. My SIL used to live in Kent, and they only allowed two
horses per acre.

As far as grazing goes, I understand that around here, it is up to five
acres per cow. We get very little rain, especially during the summer.

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Old 04-03-2006, 06:51 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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In article . com,
"Systemrecovery" wrote:

Anyone ever make their own cheese...I wouldn't think anyone has...but


No, nobody has ever made cheese. It's just a figment of your
imagination.


you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...



rfc is a newsgroup, and only my newsreader on my computer knows I am
subscribed. You have no way of knowing how many are reading this group.
I've heard it is 50,000 people.



I'm sure someone makes their own butter


My wife has taught a bunch of cooking classes for kids. This is a
favorite project. She takes a little container of heavy cream, puts it
in a jar, and passes it around. Each kid gives a few shakes.
Eventually there is butter in there, which the kids eat.


does anyone even own a cow...lol



Nobody owns a cow. Why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for
free?


:-)

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Old 04-03-2006, 07:45 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Systemrecovery" wrote in message
ups.com...
Anyone ever make their own cheese...


I've made "30 Minute Mozzarella" many times using a kit I bought from this
place: http://www.cheesemaking.com/. The cheese always turns out very nice
and is very easy to make. My brother also gave me a goat cheese making kit
last Christmas, but I haven't tried making that yet.

Mary


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Old 04-03-2006, 08:44 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:59:37 -0500, Goomba38
connected the dots and wrote:

~Systemrecovery wrote:
~ Anyone ever make their own cheese...I wouldn't think anyone
has...but
~ you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...
~
~There are??
~Damn.. Barb Shaller must be making a KILLING on all those dues
payments!

Is that where we're supposed to sent them? No wonder I didn't get
mentioned with the last roundup of local color.

maxine in ri
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:19 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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The Bubbo wrote:

I made my own butter once, threw some heavy cream in the stand mixer with the
paddle attachment. I was underwhelmed by the results.


that's funny
did you add some salt?


how in heck do you make cheese

everytime I leave milk out...the jug swells up...
water floats to the top...

the bottom gets thick and super stinky (if you pour it out and happen
to get a wiff)
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:24 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Dan Abel wrote:
No, nobody has ever made cheese. It's just a figment of your
imagination.


i think you should stop putting your head in the oven

you never know..I see there are over 1,000 members @ RFC...



rfc is a newsgroup, and only my newsreader on my computer knows I am
subscribed. You have no way of knowing how many are reading this group.
I've heard it is 50,000 people.


ah! good point..1,000 came from Googles link "about this group"...
i forgot all about the newsreaders.

Eventually there is butter in there, which the kids eat.


i suppose they put their little butter on some little crackers
and have a little ssssnack


Nobody owns a cow. Why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for
free?


now I think you should stay out of alt.votedemocrat

 




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