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Smoked salmon question
I don't know much about smoked salmon but I got to thinking about it this
weekend. I made crostini with curried mascarpone, spiced sweet potato and smoked salmon. This was not the dry, flakey, smokey type of smoked salmon. This was soft, almost like raw with no smokey flavor at all. The label clearly said smoked salmon but how do I differentiate when I am describing it to people? I really don't care for that dry flakey kind. Even the stuff that is completely naturally smoked tastes like chemicals to me, i think it's something in the process maybe. -- ..:Heather:. www.velvet-c.com Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp! |
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You had "cold smoked salmon", by far the most delicate of any salmon
preparation. The only competitive preparation is Gravlax, which is very good as well. What brand was it? What was the date on the package relative to today's date? I like Costco's Norwegian cold smoked salmon, and it's the best deal around for a certified tightwad. "The Bubbo" > wrote in message ... >I don't know much about smoked salmon but I got to thinking about it this > weekend. I made crostini with curried mascarpone, spiced sweet potato and > smoked salmon. This was not the dry, flakey, smokey type of smoked salmon. > This was soft, almost like raw with no smokey flavor at all. > > The label clearly said smoked salmon but how do I differentiate when I am > describing it to people? I really don't care for that dry flakey kind. > Even > the stuff that is completely naturally smoked tastes like chemicals to me, > i > think it's something in the process maybe. > > > -- > .:Heather:. > www.velvet-c.com > Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp! |
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Kent wrote:
> You had "cold smoked salmon", by far the most delicate of any salmon > preparation. The only competitive preparation is Gravlax, which is very good > as well. > What brand was it? What was the date on the package relative to today's > date? > I like Costco's Norwegian cold smoked salmon, and it's the best deal around > for a certified tightwad. > Thank you! It was in fact the Costco Norwegian stuff. I dn't have the package, my sister had purchased some a couple days ago so I took a huge chunk from her. -- ..:Heather:. www.velvet-c.com Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp! |
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The Bubbo wrote:
>I don't know much about smoked salmon but I got to thinking about it this >weekend. I made crostini with curried mascarpone, spiced sweet potato and >smoked salmon. This was not the dry, flakey, smokey type of smoked salmon. >This was soft, almost like raw with no smokey flavor at all. > >The label clearly said smoked salmon but how do I differentiate when I am >describing it to people? I really don't care for that dry flakey kind. Even >the stuff that is completely naturally smoked tastes like chemicals to me, i >think it's something in the process maybe. > > > > I'm not sure from the description you give, but I think that the dry flakey type is hot smoked, and the very thinly sliced, almost like raw type, is cold smoked. I am not the full bottle on the preparation of either, I'm sure good old Google would turn up something. No doubt if I consult Harold McGee there'll be something there as well, but I'ver gotta go go cook the dinner. Christine |
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The Bubbo wrote:
> I don't know much about smoked salmon but I got to thinking about it this > weekend. I made crostini with curried mascarpone, spiced sweet potato and > smoked salmon. This was not the dry, flakey, smokey type of smoked salmon. > This was soft, almost like raw with no smokey flavor at all. > > The label clearly said smoked salmon but how do I differentiate when I am > describing it to people? I really don't care for that dry flakey kind. Even > the stuff that is completely naturally smoked tastes like chemicals to me, i > think it's something in the process maybe. The process involves bringing the fish first. Smoking is the last and really an unnecessary process in cold smoking. The fish is first brined in a combination of salt and brown sugar. Then is is rinsed and soaked in a saturated salt solution after which it is rinsed of excess salt. After that has been done it is usually often brushed with a mixture of brown sugar and rum. It is quite edible at that point but can be cold smoked for the smoky flavour. This style of smoking salmon should give you a product that looks raw. It should be a little drier than raw salmon. Then there is hot smoked salmon which involves some bringing before slow cooking with some heat and smoke. This results in a completely different texture. |
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Kent wrote:
> You had "cold smoked salmon", by far the most delicate of any salmon > preparation. The only competitive preparation is Gravlax, which is very good > as well. > What brand was it? What was the date on the package relative to today's > date? > I like Costco's Norwegian cold smoked salmon, and it's the best deal around > for a certified tightwad. My sister in law was visiting a few weeks ago and brought some smoked Salmon from Giant Tiger, $1.99 for a 5 oz package. It wasn't bad. |
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The Bubbo > wrote: > Thank you! > It was in fact the Costco Norwegian stuff. I dn't have the package, my sister > had purchased some a couple days ago so I took a huge chunk from her. Hey, have you got a Costco membership? -- http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 2-11-2006, Sausage Roll Ups |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, > The Bubbo > wrote: > >> Thank you! >> It was in fact the Costco Norwegian stuff. I dn't have the package, my sister >> had purchased some a couple days ago so I took a huge chunk from her. > > Hey, have you got a Costco membership? no, my sister does. She tried to give me one for christmas, but it's just david and me, i don't really need it. -- ..:Heather:. www.velvet-c.com Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp! |
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The Bubbo wrote:
> > > > > Hey, have you got a Costco membership? > > no, my sister does. She tried to give me one for christmas, but it's just > david and me, i don't really need it. I am afraid to get one. I know there are some good deals in there, but there are just two of us here. When I did have a card I would go in for something specific, not find it and still spend more than $100, mostly on stuff I didn't rally have much use for. |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> > I am afraid to get one. I know there are some good deals in there, but there > are just two of us here. When I did have a card I would go in for something > specific, not find it and still spend more than $100, mostly on stuff I > didn't rally have much use for. > I only really go when I am having a party and need lots of something, but honestly, even for parties of 30 or 40 people I don't get much there. Of course I did buy the 15 pack of Kraft mac and cheese! -- ..:Heather:. www.velvet-c.com Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp! |
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The Bubbo wrote:
> I only really go when I am having a party and need lots of something, but > honestly, even for parties of 30 or 40 people I don't get much there. > > Of course I did buy the 15 pack of Kraft mac and cheese! I found a good deal on frozen shrimp there, but when I went back they no longer had it. I get the impression that a lot of their deals are matter of special deals from suppliers but that they are not committed to carrying any particular products. They had some good deals on thinks like Breton crackers and some pasta sauces which were sold in packs of 3 or four, but they were all variety packs. |
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Smoked salmon question
I make gravlax. http://www.recipezaar.com/31131
You're describing making gravlax and smoking following at a very low temp., 75-80F or so. I've tried this at a temp. of 110-125 in the Luhr Jensen Little Chef with marginal results. I've never tried it with smoke and no heat. That's probably the answer to a question that has haunted me for years. Thanx Kent "Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > The Bubbo wrote: > >> I don't know much about smoked salmon but I got to thinking about it this >> weekend. I made crostini with curried mascarpone, spiced sweet potato and >> smoked salmon. This was not the dry, flakey, smokey type of smoked >> salmon. >> This was soft, almost like raw with no smokey flavor at all. >> >> The label clearly said smoked salmon but how do I differentiate when I am >> describing it to people? I really don't care for that dry flakey kind. >> Even >> the stuff that is completely naturally smoked tastes like chemicals to >> me, i >> think it's something in the process maybe. > > The process involves bringing the fish first. Smoking is the last and > really an > unnecessary process in cold smoking. The fish is first brined in a > combination > of salt and brown sugar. Then is is rinsed and soaked in a saturated salt > solution after which it is rinsed of excess salt. After that has been done > it is > usually often brushed with a mixture of brown sugar and rum. It is quite > edible > at that point but can be cold smoked for the smoky flavour. This style of > smoking salmon should give you a product that looks raw. It should be a > little > drier than raw salmon. > > Then there is hot smoked salmon which involves some bringing before slow > cooking > with some heat and smoke. This results in a completely different texture. > > |
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Dave Smith > wrote: > The Bubbo wrote: > > > > Hey, have you got a Costco membership? > > > > no, my sister does. She tried to give me one for christmas, but it's just > > david and me, i don't really need it. > > I am afraid to get one. I know there are some good deals in there, but there > are just two of us here. When I did have a card I would go in for something > specific, not find it and still spend more than $100, mostly on stuff I > didn't rally have much use for. I'm still working off that barrel of maple syrup I bought back in 1998... sd |
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me wrote:
> I'm still working off that barrel of maple syrup I bought back in > 1998... > Barrel of maple syrup? We are about half way through the litre jug I bought in December, and that is probably the fastest we have ever gone through the stuff. I consider myself lucky. There is a farm nearby that produces maple syrup and it is just down the road from the stable where I take riding lessons. It is much cheaper to buy it in larger volumes. I cringe when I see it in shoppes (with an extra p and an e) where they charge almost as much for a very small bottle of it as I pay for a litre. |
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Dave Smith > wrote: > me wrote: > > > I'm still working off that barrel of maple syrup I bought back in > > 1998... > > > > Barrel of maple syrup? It was a joke (and apparently not a good one) about the size of products at the buying clubs and how difficult it can be for a single person to finish them. :-) > We are about half way through the litre jug I bought in December, and that is > probably the fastest we have ever gone through the stuff. > > I consider myself lucky. There is a farm nearby that produces maple syrup and > it > is just down the road from the stable where I take riding lessons. It is > much > cheaper to buy it in larger volumes. I cringe when I see it in shoppes (with > an > extra p and an e) where they charge almost as much for a very small bottle > of it > as I pay for a litre. Ditto. I actually buy my maple syrup at the co-op, where it is sold in bulk. I prefer Grade B, which I don't often see in bottles. But, either way, it's a much better deal and the syrup is local. sd |
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me wrote:
> > Ditto. I actually buy my maple syrup at the co-op, where it is sold > in bulk. I prefer Grade B, which I don't often see in bottles. But, > either way, it's a much better deal and the syrup is local. > Absent a local co-op, shoppers at Trader Joe's can also get Grade B maple syrup. My current bottle is from Quebec but they also have some from New England, and I guess they also have Grade A, the lighter stuff. Like you, we prefer the darker Grade B. -aem |
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aem wrote:
> me wrote: > > > > Ditto. I actually buy my maple syrup at the co-op, where it is sold > > in bulk. I prefer Grade B, which I don't often see in bottles. But, > > either way, it's a much better deal and the syrup is local. > > > Absent a local co-op, shoppers at Trader Joe's can also get Grade B > maple syrup. My current bottle is from Quebec but they also have some > from New England, and I guess they also have Grade A, the lighter > stuff. Like you, we prefer the darker Grade B. -aem The local maple farm sells it in light, medium, amber and dark. I prefer the dark. |
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"aem" > wrote > me wrote: >> >> Ditto. I actually buy my maple syrup at the co-op, where it is sold >> in bulk. I prefer Grade B, which I don't often see in bottles. But, >> either way, it's a much better deal and the syrup is local. >> > Absent a local co-op, shoppers at Trader Joe's can also get Grade B > maple syrup. My current bottle is from Quebec but they also have some > from New England, and I guess they also have Grade A, the lighter > stuff. Like you, we prefer the darker Grade B. -aem Funny, to me, I looked for it for a long time, couldn't find it, even on my forays into New England. Tried to buy some online, but really, I could only find it in jagunda size, I don't use that much of it, and you know it's not cheap. One day last fall, I was looking for maple syrup when ! there it was! Grade B, right in my local store. At any rate, last time I bought some, a woman was also looking for maple syrup and she asked, why was my bottle different looking from hers, being the same brand. I pointed out about the grade b, she asked what it was like ... I struggled ... uh, it's ... heavier? No. It's ... well, I forget how I explained it to her, she understood, I think. First she'd heard of grades of maple syrup. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> Funny, to me, I looked for it for a long time, couldn't find it, even > on my forays into New England. Tried to buy some online, but really, > I could only find it in jagunda size, I don't use that much of it, and you > know it's not cheap. One day last fall, I was looking for maple syrup > when ! there it was! Grade B, right in my local store. If you buy it in larger quantities it is no more expensive than jams. It also costs more in those fancy jars that some people seem to like. I buy it in plain glass or plastic jigs for $16.95 per litre at the local maple farm. They sell 500 ml jogs for $925 and fancy maple leaf shaped 250 bottles for $8.50, which works out to twice the cost per unit volume that I pay. |
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Nancy Young wrote on 16 Feb 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> Funny, to me, I looked for it for a long time, couldn't find it, even > on my forays into New England. Tried to buy some online, but really, > I could only find it in jagunda size, I don't use that much of it, and > you know it's not cheap. One day last fall, I was looking for maple > syrup when ! there it was! Grade B, right in my local store. > > At any rate, last time I bought some, a woman was also looking for > maple syrup and she asked, why was my bottle different looking from > hers, being the same brand. I pointed out about the grade b, she > asked what it was like ... I struggled ... uh, it's ... heavier? No. > It's ... well, > I forget how I explained it to her, she understood, I think. First > she'd heard of grades of maple syrup. > > nancy > Nevermind this!!! It's story time...tell all about your trip already!!! -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote > Nancy Young wrote: > >> Funny, to me, I looked for it for a long time, couldn't find it, even >> on my forays into New England. Tried to buy some online, but really, >> I could only find it in jagunda size, I don't use that much of it, and >> you >> know it's not cheap. One day last fall, I was looking for maple syrup >> when ! there it was! Grade B, right in my local store. > > If you buy it in larger quantities it is no more expensive than jams. It > also > costs more in those fancy jars that some people seem to like. I buy it in > plain glass or plastic jigs for $16.95 per litre at the local maple farm. > They > sell 500 ml jogs for $925 and fancy maple leaf shaped 250 bottles for > $8.50, > which works out to twice the cost per unit volume that I pay. No doubt that is true where you live. I looked for a long time to find *any* grade b, never mind in big jugs. Online I did find someone willing to sell a large quantity of it, they didn't sell it in smaller quantities .... it was perhaps $45 for a half gallon? something like that? Do not rush to look, I really don't use that much maple syrup that I am dying to find it in large quantities (if that came out wrong, don't take it that I'm being rude, I'm not). So I buy it in small glass jars, not the maple leaf shaped ones but damn, those little leaf jars are *cute* ... nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote on 16 Feb 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> No doubt that is true where you live. I looked for a long time to > find *any* grade b, never mind in big jugs. Online I did find someone > willing to sell a large quantity of it, they didn't sell it in smaller > quantities ... it was > perhaps $45 for a half gallon? something like that? Do not rush to > look, I really don't use that much maple syrup that I am dying to find > it in large quantities (if that came out wrong, don't take it that I'm > being rude, I'm not). > > So I buy it in small glass jars, not the maple leaf shaped ones but > damn, those little leaf jars are *cute* ... > > nancy > http://tinyurl.com/af67p select a dark grade -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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My vacation
"Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote > Nancy Young wrote on 16 Feb 2006 in rec.food.cooking >> I forget how I explained it to her, she understood, I think. First >> she'd heard of grades of maple syrup. > Nevermind this!!! It's story time...tell all about your trip already!!! (laugh!) You know, I didn't come back with any stories ... had a great time, but nothing ... untoward or unusual happened. You know, no guy sitting on his muffin, nothing! Left Saturday morning completely unaware we were heading out right before a good sized snow storm. Broke records around here, I understand. Came home today, it was in the 60s, no snow, all melted. Great timing, I would say. The good news is, I'd asked my brother to stop by on his way to work, please look in on my cat, make sure she has food and water, bring in the mail and the papers, blah blah blah. Got cold feet (harrr) at the last day, worried about leaving her alone, arranged for a kennel. Well, he would have been cursing me out, digging out my driveway, just to get to a cat he's allergic to. I would never have heard the end of it. I ate a TON of food, most of it quite uninteresting. Had a real Cobb Salad at the Brown Derby, that's the restaurant where it was invented, in Hollywood. The waitress brought over a couple of large spoons on a napkin, put them on the edge of the table and said, that's for your Cobb salad. Hmmm. Okay, not familiar with eating a salad with spoons. Turns out the salad comes with a man who mixes it up for you. (laugh) I said thank you because I wasn't sure maybe it was one of those deals you have to say when or they'll keep going, you know, like with the pepper mill? It was very good but boy, I never saw such a finely chopped green salad in all my life. Teensy chopped. Very good, could indeed have eaten it with a spoon. Apparently the UK is empty, all of the citizens are at Disneyworld. I had to laugh when the plane was boarded, a swarm of British teens almost filled the plane. I think they were following me. Well, okay, not really. I was thinking of shouting LIAM to see how many turned around, must be a common name there. They were quite excited to see the Statue of Liberty and the Empire State Building as we were landing, it was cute. Canada is still my favorite stop in Epcot (smile). Fabulous film. Never gets old, I love it. They people who work at the countries in the world showcase are from those countries, there was a cute Canadian guy with that cute Canadian accent. Perhaps they sold maple syrup there, I didn't look. No plans of putting that in my luggage! In England I bought something I have heard about here so many times. Digestive biscuits. For once and for all, I would know what they were. McVitie's, The Original Digestive. Very good and not unlike a soft graham cracker. The English girl working there thought it was a strange purchase, I think ... she kinda looked at me funny. I'm still kicking myself I didn't have the carne asada at Mexico. I don't know why. Stupid stupid stupid. Heh, when I was in Who Wants to be a Millionaire (a show), they focused on someone in the audience, put them up on the tv. Host said hi! and they panned away. Wait! he said, put the camera back on them. Are you from Minnesota? They looked dumbfounded, how did he know that? I hadn't heard them say anything but he sure nailed it. So funny. One night I had a chance to order chicken fried steak so I could tell Jill I had it. I didn't, and didn't make it back to correct that gaffe. Anyway, I had a blast and hey ... 4 parks in 4 days, I was amazed I made it, no kidding. nancy |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote: > > Heh, when I was in Who Wants to be a Millionaire (a show), they > focused on someone in the audience, put them up on the tv. Host said > hi! and they panned away. Wait! he said, put the camera back on them. > Are you from Minnesota? They looked dumbfounded, how did he know > that? I hadn't heard them say anything but he sure nailed it. So funny. Played the odds. Minnesota sends more people to Disneyworld than any other state. -- http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 2-11-2006, Sausage Roll Ups |
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Nancy Young wrote on 16 Feb 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> Anyway, I had a blast and hey ... 4 parks in 4 days, I was amazed I made > it, no kidding. > > nancy > > And a very nice story it was...thank you. -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote on 16 Feb 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> LOL... That is funny. I was on the Riki Lake show. It was not a trash > episode it was a good one. Was it the one about What to do with your spare Dwarf? -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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Nancy Young wrote on 16 Feb 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> Anyway, I had a blast and hey ... 4 parks in 4 days, I was amazed I made > it, no kidding. > > nancy > Very nice story...With Damsel away we need more such stories... -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> > > (laugh!) You know, I didn't come back with any stories ... had a great > time, but nothing ... untoward or unusual happened. You know, no > guy sitting on his muffin, nothing! > > nancy > > I love disney world in a really sick and wrong way. I don't know what the deal is, I don't care for anything Disney, I just LOVE disneyworld. Last time I went was two years ago, my ex's parents (before we were exes) bought all their kids and significant others 5 day parkhopper passes and then flew us all down there, rented cars for us and put us up in a resort. It was a crazy good time. I got a pair of Tigger ears and wore them non-stop. The best food experience was our last night there when we all went out to eat at the restaurant at the resort at Animal Kingdom. My ex has food issues and there was precious little she could eat from the buffet so the chef created an amazing 4 course meal on the fly that conformed to her every food issue. He was totally cool. -- ..:Heather:. www.velvet-c.com Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp! |
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"The Bubbo" > wrote > Nancy Young wrote: >> (laugh!) You know, I didn't come back with any stories ... had a great >> time, but nothing ... untoward or unusual happened. You know, no >> guy sitting on his muffin, nothing! > I love disney world in a really sick and wrong way. I don't know what the > deal > is, I don't care for anything Disney, I just LOVE disneyworld. Last time I > went was two years ago, my ex's parents (before we were exes) bought all > their > kids and significant others 5 day parkhopper passes and then flew us all > down > there, rented cars for us and put us up in a resort. It was a crazy good > time. > I got a pair of Tigger ears and wore them non-stop. It's just fun and it's just what I needed. Amuses me to see all kinds of people of all ages and accents. Part of the fun. > The best food experience was our last night there when we all went out to > eat > at the restaurant at the resort at Animal Kingdom. My ex has food issues > and > there was precious little she could eat from the buffet so the chef > created an > amazing 4 course meal on the fly that conformed to her every food issue. > He > was totally cool. That's great, I bet they like a challenge. This was the first time I've been to Animal Kingdom, I didn't think to try to eat at the resort there. Heck, I don't even know where the resort is, there. nancy |
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Grade B maple syrup (was Smoked salmon question)
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"Nancy Young" > wrote: > At any rate, last time I bought some, a woman was also looking for > maple syrup and she asked, why was my bottle different looking from > hers, being the same brand. I pointed out about the grade b, she asked > what it was like ... I struggled ... uh, it's ... heavier? No. It's ... > well, > I forget how I explained it to her, she understood, I think. First she'd > heard of grades of maple syrup. I liken it to the difference between EVOO and regular OO. 'Course, that assumes the questioner understands _that_ difference. sd |
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Kent wrote:
> I make gravlax. http://www.recipezaar.com/31131 > You're describing making gravlax and smoking following at a very low temp., > 75-80F or so. I've tried this at a temp. of 110-125 in the Luhr Jensen > Little Chef with marginal results. I've never tried it with smoke and no > heat. That's probably the answer to a question that has haunted me for > years. The instructions I followed advised not to let the smoking temperature exceed 110 F. I have made it a few times and it turns out great every time. I made a tray of canapés for a Christmas Eve party at my brothers by rolling thin slices of the smoked salmon around a blob of cream cheese with a few thing slices of onion and a caper or two and stuck a tooth pick through them. I took the platter up and set it on the table, went down to hang up my coat and when I went back up they were gone. People like it. |
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