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How safe is your grocery store?



 
 
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Old 01-02-2006, 10:47 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
Doug Kanter
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Default How safe is your grocery store?

Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/


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Old 01-02-2006, 11:22 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Doug Kanter wrote:
Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/



That was really interesting; thanks! As someone who has been employed in
a supervisory capacity in a grocery store, I know all too well how
difficult it is to get employees to take food safety seriously (at least
to the degree that they should).

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saerah

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disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
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"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
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Old 01-02-2006, 11:50 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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sarah bennett wrote:

That was really interesting; thanks! As someone who has been employed in
a supervisory capacity in a grocery store, I know all too well how
difficult it is to get employees to take food safety seriously (at least
to the degree that they should).



One day, we will once again be an agri-society

someone says, what about the old folks...

ha! let their children do the honorable thing and take care of them

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Old 02-02-2006, 01:32 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Doug Kanter wrote:
Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/


Safe.. been using it for years, still very healthy!

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Old 02-02-2006, 01:51 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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sarah bennett wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/



That was really interesting; thanks! As someone who has been employed in
a supervisory capacity in a grocery store, I know all too well how
difficult it is to get employees to take food safety seriously (at least
to the degree that they should).



The bit about birds flying about some stores was somewhat "interesting"
:-)

--
Best
Greg

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Old 02-02-2006, 02:04 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Gregory Morrow" wrote in message
oups.com...

sarah bennett wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health
violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/



That was really interesting; thanks! As someone who has been employed in
a supervisory capacity in a grocery store, I know all too well how
difficult it is to get employees to take food safety seriously (at least
to the degree that they should).



The bit about birds flying about some stores was somewhat "interesting"
:-)

--
Best
Greg


The Wal-Mart here used to have birds. They even had bird houses on top of
one of the heat ducts above frozen foods. Then they got a new store manager
and the birds went away. I haven't remembered to look and see if the bird
houses are still there.

Ms P


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Old 02-02-2006, 02:48 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
sarah bennett wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:

Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/



That was really interesting; thanks! As someone who has been employed in
a supervisory capacity in a grocery store, I know all too well how
difficult it is to get employees to take food safety seriously (at least
to the degree that they should).




The bit about birds flying about some stores was somewhat "interesting"
:-)


I have seen birds flying around in nearly every store I've worked at,
and in many stores I've shopped in. It is hard to keep them out,
especially when it is cold outside. We would never have just washed off
packaged products if a bird had shat on them, though.

--

saerah

http://anisaerah.blogspot.com/

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams
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Old 02-02-2006, 03:24 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/


One of the TV news magazine shows had a story about filthy supermarkets
last weekend. Ugh! Fortunately, the supermarkets where I shop were rated
fine.
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Old 02-02-2006, 03:59 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:51:19 -0800, Gregory Morrow wrote:


The bit about birds flying about some stores was somewhat "interesting"
:-)


Not a bit.. I have seen plenty birds in the Sams store..not to mention the
flock of buzzards in the parking lot.. and more then enough blackbirds for
many a pie.

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Old 02-02-2006, 07:55 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Doug Kanter wrote:
Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/


I see a lot of difference from store to store, especially in the Meat
Depts. Our good store (Winco) has Purell sanitizer and paper towels
available for customers, and it's meat trays are very clean and never
smell - they clean them out at least daily with bleach. Fred Meyer,
OTOH, almost always has blood dripping everywhere, stinky bins, and
finally recently put in paper towels. It's just gross.
-L.

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Old 02-02-2006, 07:59 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"-L." wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health

violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/


I see a lot of difference from store to store, especially in the Meat
Depts. Our good store (Winco) has Purell sanitizer and paper towels
available for customers, and it's meat trays are very clean and never
smell - they clean them out at least daily with bleach. Fred Meyer,
OTOH, almost always has blood dripping everywhere, stinky bins, and
finally recently put in paper towels. It's just gross.
-L.


That is disgusting. There are no groceries like that in Raleigh, NC. Where
is the health department?


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Old 02-02-2006, 08:12 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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cybercat wrote:
That is disgusting. There are no groceries like that in Raleigh, NC. Where
is the health department?


Yes there is, STALKER - and they are even WORSE:

A Food Lion in Cary (a RALEIGH suburb, as you well know) was guilty of
selling ground beef containing E. coli O157:H7 (a potentially lethal
strain) in 1999.
http://archives.foodsafetynetwork.ca...0-13-99-01.txt

Another store in Raleigh was guilty of the same thing in 2000:
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oa/recalls/...pr069-2000.htm

And Harris Teeter in Raleigh, 2002:
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/recalls/...pr010-2002.htm

That's just a few examples. Your stores are just as nasty as the rest
of the US.

BTW, how many more posts are you going to make where I prove you WRONG?

-L.

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Old 02-02-2006, 09:40 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Gregory Morrow" writes:

The bit about birds flying about some stores was somewhat "interesting"


The store we used to go to always had birds. The big doors for trucks
in the back let birds in, and no one tried to get rid of the birds.
They stayed there long enough to build nests and have babies and, I
assume, eat the produce.
The store we go to now had a bird in it once, a few months ago, and
employees actually caught it and released it outside. Haven't seen any
evidence of birds otherwise.

Stacia

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Old 02-02-2006, 03:31 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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The store we used to go to always had birds. The big doors for trucks
in the back let birds in, and no one tried to get rid of the birds.
They stayed there long enough to build nests and have babies and, I
assume, eat the produce.
The store we go to now had a bird in it once, a few months ago, and
employees actually caught it and released it outside. Haven't seen any
evidence of birds otherwise.

Stacia


There are some big hardware stores that have birds in them all the time. A
while back a huge bird got into a warehouse store and was batting its body
against the upper edge of the big door trying to get out, but evidently
didn't want to drop down far enough to get out of the door itself. If one
watched it, it would be torture; but it was doing that when we walked in to
shop and still doing it later in the day when we left. I have no idea how
long it lasted -- But it must've been a wretched experience for the large
bird.
Dee Dee


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Old 02-02-2006, 05:33 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:47:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Interesting thing from MSNBC. Read carefully. Some of the health
violations
aren't related to the condition of the food itself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10976595/


What did they do, recycle this story? Isn't this past it's
sell-by date?

They did this same story about 2 years ago. It looks exactly the
same. Even the name of investigation "Supermarket Sweep" is the
same.

-sw


I didn't notice the date on the story. Maybe it's the exact same one you saw
2 years ago. If that's the case, do you believe much has changed? If yes,
what job did the health inspectors move to next?


 




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