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Old 31-01-2006, 11:26 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,rec.food.cooking,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Last evening, Chung's little get-together was a bust.


No. I enjoyed it.

Total of three
names on the board with one flashing in and out - didn't keep the
connection alive.


Folks are not required to stay long. It is a chat room after all.

Poor guy gave a party and nobody came.


It was not a party. You are hardly a nobody, dear Bob :-)

Shocked, I tell you.


It seems you always expect a put-down.

And when so many people take him "seriously" it's hard to imagine that
*nobody* much came by to share his "wisdom" and "education."


Lurkers remain more than welcome :-)

And he seems like such an earnest young "man." So "sincere" in his
efforts to "inform" everyone about his "discernments."


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

A good topic for his "glowfests" would be where to buy those cool big
red noses and floppy shoes. And maybe plate tectonics and nuclear
weaponry and realpolitik and biblical interpretation and ...


Instead of coveting these chats, you are more than welcome to organize
your own.

Please know that you remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name :-))

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 31-01-2006, 09:48 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Bob (this one) wrote:

Last evening, Chung's little get-together was a bust.


No. I enjoyed it.


You could have saved yourself the trouble of going on line if all you
wanted was to be alone.


Those who are walking with Christ are never alone.

Total of three
names on the board with one flashing in and out - didn't keep the
connection alive.


Folks are not required to stay long. It is a chat room after all.


Sure it is. But when no one's there, the amount of "chat" is effectively
zero. No chat = no chat room.


Perhaps you logged into the wrong chatroom. I don't recall ignoring
anyone.

Poor guy gave a party and nobody came.


It was not a party.


LOL It certainly wasn't. Nobody came.

You are hardly a nobody, dear Bob :-)


:-)

Shocked, I tell you.


It seems you always expect a put-down.


It seems you always post non sequiturs. It was a sarcastic comment about
your inability to garner support or endorsement -


Sorry your sarcasm backfired. Please forgive my iniquities.

or participants in
your empty chat room.


Again, perhaps you logged into the wrong chatroom.

And when so many people take him "seriously" it's hard to imagine that
*nobody* much came by to share his "wisdom" and "education."


Lurkers remain more than welcome :-)


Don't know how to read the list down the left side of the screen, do
you? Um, the answer is "no" if you think there are "lurkers."


There were multiple rooms... come to think of it I do not recall anyone
using "Bob(this one)" as a handle last week.

And he seems like such an earnest young "man." So "sincere" in his
efforts to "inform" everyone about his "discernments."


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.


That's laughable. Just laughable.


Sorry my choice bothers you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

A good topic for his "glowfests" would be where to buy those cool big
red noses and floppy shoes. And maybe plate tectonics and nuclear
weaponry and realpolitik and biblical interpretation and ...


Instead of coveting these chats, you are more than welcome to organize
your own.


I have and I do organize my own. Just not for you to visit. I want
truthful, intelligent, honest, generous people who aren't obsessed with
the doom of humanity in mine.


Without the LORD, there is only doom.

I guess that on your planet pointing out your failures is somehow to
covet something.


With the LORD, though we may stumble, HE saves us from falling.

Good reasoning - like your "truthfully" relentless
assertion after being shown to have lied.


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully. Sorry my choice
seems relentless to you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

Please know that you remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name :-))


I love your phony double-chin smiling face. Looks like somebody's ASCII
needs to eat less. Maybe 2#. Bwah...


Sorry my prayers on your behalf bother you. Again, please forgive all
my iniquities.


Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:


LOL


"Written laughter is silent despair."

Right - keep issuing those frantic invitations that no one takes
you up on.


No. I enjoy the chats regardless of the number of folks who attend.
Actually, when there are fewer in attendance, the chats are more
intimate and I get the opportunity to enjoy Paradise more.

Oh, yes, and it would be very entertaining for you to talk
about cooking - after saying that there's no need for recipes.


Chats don't indicate a need.

Or
nutrition - when you don't know how many calories are in bread or
potatoes


Knowing the weight of either bread or potatoes obviates the need to
guess the number of calories.

and that you say it's OK to lie to dieters.


It remains my choice to continue being truthful to all.

Not to mention
plate tectonics and nuclear weaponry and realpolitik and biblical
interpretation and ...


Yes. There is something to interest everyone in Paradise.

Ever the fool - Chung.


If you were secure in the truth, you would also have the strength to
resist the temptation of descending into namecalling.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 01-02-2006, 05:23 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Bob (this one) wrote:

Last evening, Chung's little get-together was a bust.

No. I enjoyed it.

You could have saved yourself the trouble of going on line if all you
wanted was to be alone.


Those who are walking with Christ are never alone.


Platitudes. Yum.


The truth.

Total of three
names on the board with one flashing in and out - didn't keep the
connection alive.

Folks are not required to stay long. It is a chat room after all.

Sure it is. But when no one's there, the amount of "chat" is effectively
zero. No chat = no chat room.


Perhaps you logged into the wrong chatroom. I don't recall ignoring
anyone.


Of course not. There was nobody there to ignore.


Perhaps you logged in either before or after the scheduled chat
session.

Poor guy gave a party and nobody came.

It was not a party.

LOL It certainly wasn't. Nobody came.

You are hardly a nobody, dear Bob :-)

:-)


Shocked, I tell you.

It seems you always expect a put-down.

It seems you always post non sequiturs. It was a sarcastic comment about
your inability to garner support or endorsement -


Sorry your sarcasm backfired.


LOL You don't get it so it backfired? Zowie, what reasoning...


Then why do you despair?

Please forgive my iniquities.


No, Andrew. Because you'll just continue to do the same things again.
You know they're iniquities, yet you repeat them, all the while asking
for forgiveness for what you do willfully.


If you are unwilling to forgive what you judge to be unrepentant
behavior, why should the LORD forgive you for what HE judges to be your
unrepentant behavior?

or participants in
your empty chat room.


Again, perhaps you logged into the wrong chatroom.


Not a chance. Hit that URL you post so frequently. Took me to your
hilarious "Paradise" with the fake "chat" examples that are really
newsgroup postings. What a fraud you are...

Punched the chatroom link and there I was. Sorts. Just that you couldn't
see me.


Perhaps you logged in either before or after the scheduled chat
session.

And when so many people take him "seriously" it's hard to imagine that
*nobody* much came by to share his "wisdom" and "education."

Lurkers remain more than welcome :-)

Don't know how to read the list down the left side of the screen, do
you? Um, the answer is "no" if you think there are "lurkers."


There were multiple rooms... come to think of it I do not recall anyone
using "Bob(this one)" as a handle last week.


Oh, sure. Multiple rooms with nobody in them. Right.


No.

And he seems like such an earnest young "man." So "sincere" in his
efforts to "inform" everyone about his "discernments."

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

That's laughable. Just laughable.


Sorry my choice bothers you. Please forgive all my iniquities.


Your "choice" is to continue to dissemble. And that's what's funny.

And again you ask for forgiveness for what you will continue to do. How
sanctimonious.


Again, if you are unwilling to forgive what you judge to be unrepentant
behavior, why should the LORD forgive you for what HE judges to be your
unrepentant behavior?

A good topic for his "glowfests" would be where to buy those cool big
red noses and floppy shoes. And maybe plate tectonics and nuclear
weaponry and realpolitik and biblical interpretation and ...

Instead of coveting these chats, you are more than welcome to organize
your own.

I have and I do organize my own. Just not for you to visit. I want
truthful, intelligent, honest, generous people who aren't obsessed with
the doom of humanity in mine.


Without the LORD, there is only doom.


Apparently, with the lord there's doom, too.


No. With the LORD there is hope and eternal life.

As in your frantic
"advisory" about global catastrophe. It's like saying I'd rather be hung
with a nylon rope rather than a hemp rope.


Sorry you feel threatened by possibility of the Lamb's second coming
within the next year or two. Please forgive me for being the bearer of
this advisory.

I guess that on your planet pointing out your failures is somehow to
covet something.


With the LORD, though we may stumble, HE saves us from falling.


LOL That's funny. Absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.


Where there is no falling... there is no failure.

Hilarious Andrew just has to say *something* even if it has no bearing
on what's happening.


See above.

Good reasoning - like your "truthfully" relentless
assertion after being shown to have lied.


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully. Sorry my choice
seems relentless to you. Please forgive all my iniquities.


Would that you wrote truthfully, Andrew.


I am.

It's a singular astonishment
how you get caught in your falsehoods and still assert that you're
writing truthfully.


Those who are blind are just as unable to detect the dark as they are
unable to detect the light.

It's as though your mental state forbids you to
notice what you're actually doing.


Thankfully, the LORD's gift of a discerning heart overcomes all
deficiencies in one's mental state.

Your choice of repeating that phony comment about being truthful is
what's relentless.


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

You may consider yourself unforgiven. As long as you continue in your
demonstrated path of falsehood and deception.


Again, if you are unwilling to forgive what you judge to be unrepentant
behavior, why should the LORD forgive you for what HE judges to be your
unrepentant behavior?

Please know that you remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name :-))

I love your phony double-chin smiling face. Looks like somebody's ASCII
needs to eat less. Maybe 2#. Bwah...


Sorry my prayers on your behalf bother you. Again, please forgive all
my iniquities.


LOL


Without the LORD, there can only be fathomless despair.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

LOL


"Written laughter is silent despair."


LOL


Without the LORD, the despair would be everlasting.

Right - keep issuing those frantic invitations that no one takes
you up on.


No. I enjoy the chats regardless of the number of folks who attend.
Actually, when there are fewer in attendance, the chats are more
intimate and I get the opportunity to enjoy Paradise more.


Right. You and another person. Small group. Enjoy "paradise" more. It's
paradisaical to sit in front of your computer?


No. The physical location where the LORD has me conduct the chat is
Paradise.

Oh, yes, and it would be very entertaining for you to talk
about cooking - after saying that there's no need for recipes.


Chats don't indicate a need.


LOL As though that's what the reference means. Where's that
"discernment" when it could help you understand the obvious?


Knowing your intentions would require the LORD's gift of clairvoyance
and not a discerning heart.

Or
nutrition - when you don't know how many calories are in bread or
potatoes


Knowing the weight of either bread or potatoes obviates the need to
guess the number of calories.


There's no need to guess about calories. That's old information, tested
and retested.


Calorie counting without a bomb calorimeter is calorie guessing.

Knowing the weight tells you nothing about its nutritional
components.


Only the LORD is able to tell you about the exact nutritional
components of the food you are about to eat.

So now that you say the nutritional elements in it are not
necessary to know about, how do you plan to discuss nutrition?


Chats are informal casual banter.

Phony...


"Namecalling is the crutch of those hobbling along without the truth."

and that you say it's OK to lie to dieters.


It remains my choice to continue being truthful to all.


Words are cheap.


Not if they are the LORD's.

Actions are the truth.


Not if they are part of a feign.

You've said it's ok to lie -


It seems to be your choice to bear false witness.

to
give them deliberately overstated and false information. And the
overstatement was about calories which you say are unimportant.


Calories remain meaningless while there are no practical ways of
measuring them.

Make up
your mind.


My mind remains made up.

Not to mention
plate tectonics and nuclear weaponry and realpolitik and biblical
interpretation and ...


Yes. There is something to interest everyone in Paradise.


Sadly, you're ignorant on all those subjects. You've proven it.


Your opinion.

Ever the fool - Chung.


If you were secure in the truth, you would also have the strength to
resist the temptation of descending into namecalling.


I'm secure in the truth that you are a fool.


"Namecalling is the crutch of those hobbling along without the truth."

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 01-02-2006, 07:58 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Johnny Dividas
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If I offered to crucify you, knowing that your death would draw people
to the'light' you say is 'christ', would you take me up on the offer?

Call me.

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Old 01-02-2006, 02:23 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Bob (this one) wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Bob (this one) wrote:

Last evening, Chung's little get-together was a bust.

No. I enjoyed it.

You could have saved yourself the trouble of going on line if all you
wanted was to be alone.

Those who are walking with Christ are never alone.

Platitudes. Yum.


The truth.


Untestable and therefore only an opinion.


Not for the discerning.

Total of three
names on the board with one flashing in and out - didn't keep the
connection alive.

Folks are not required to stay long. It is a chat room after all.

Sure it is. But when no one's there, the amount of "chat" is effectively
zero. No chat = no chat room.

Perhaps you logged into the wrong chatroom. I don't recall ignoring
anyone.

Of course not. There was nobody there to ignore.


Perhaps you logged in either before or after the scheduled chat
session.


Not a bit of it. I slid in at the right time. At least it was within the
range you post. Nothing going on.


Perhaps you got confused about time zone differences and/or daylight
savings time.

Poor guy gave a party and nobody came.

It was not a party.

LOL It certainly wasn't. Nobody came.

You are hardly a nobody, dear Bob :-)

:-)

Shocked, I tell you.

It seems you always expect a put-down.

It seems you always post non sequiturs. It was a sarcastic comment about
your inability to garner support or endorsement -

Sorry your sarcasm backfired.

LOL You don't get it so it backfired? Zowie, what reasoning...


Then why do you despair?


Andrew, that knee-jerk response of yours is tired and worn. And has been
dealt with by many people who have asked you how does one indicate
laughter in a text-only medium? You indicate your mirth with ASCII
symbols.


No. Those are emoticons and not mirth.

Somehow you've decided that laughter indicated is despair. But
your indications are merely mirth. I find that self-serving passive
aggression laughable. So I laugh. And I tell you that I laugh. At you.


And in so doing, you betray the despair in your heart again and again.


Please forgive my iniquities.

No, Andrew. Because you'll just continue to do the same things again.
You know they're iniquities, yet you repeat them, all the while asking
for forgiveness for what you do willfully.


If you are unwilling to forgive what you judge to be unrepentant
behavior, why should the LORD forgive you for what HE judges to be your
unrepentant behavior?


I'll take my chances without your opinions cluttering the vista.


This is a question and not an opinion. It is written that the LORD
will judge all:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

or participants in
your empty chat room.

Again, perhaps you logged into the wrong chatroom.

Not a chance. Hit that URL you post so frequently. Took me to your
hilarious "Paradise" with the fake "chat" examples that are really
newsgroup postings. What a fraud you are...

Punched the chatroom link and there I was. Sorts. Just that you couldn't
see me.


Perhaps you logged in either before or after the scheduled chat
session.


And perhaps not, huh...? Imagine. Something Andrew can't "discern."


A discerning heart does not confer omniscience.

And when so many people take him "seriously" it's hard to imagine that
*nobody* much came by to share his "wisdom" and "education."

Lurkers remain more than welcome :-)

Don't know how to read the list down the left side of the screen, do
you? Um, the answer is "no" if you think there are "lurkers."

There were multiple rooms... come to think of it I do not recall anyone
using "Bob(this one)" as a handle last week.

Oh, sure. Multiple rooms with nobody in them. Right.


No.


LOL My how instructive an answer.


It remains informative.

And he seems like such an earnest young "man." So "sincere" in his

efforts to "inform" everyone about his "discernments."

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

That's laughable. Just laughable.

Sorry my choice bothers you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

Your "choice" is to continue to dissemble. And that's what's funny.

And again you ask for forgiveness for what you will continue to do. How
sanctimonious.


Again, if you are unwilling to forgive what you judge to be unrepentant
behavior, why should the LORD forgive you for what HE judges to be your
unrepentant behavior?


Asked and answered.


Not really. But it will be. Of this I am certain.

A good topic for his "glowfests" would be where to buy those cool big
red noses and floppy shoes. And maybe plate tectonics and nuclear
weaponry and realpolitik and biblical interpretation and ...

Instead of coveting these chats, you are more than welcome to organize
your own.

I have and I do organize my own. Just not for you to visit. I want
truthful, intelligent, honest, generous people who aren't obsessed with
the doom of humanity in mine.

Without the LORD, there is only doom.

Apparently, with the lord there's doom, too.


No. With the LORD there is hope and eternal life.


One can hope. But one cannot prove.


Those with faith... know.

As in your frantic
"advisory" about global catastrophe. It's like saying I'd rather be hung
with a nylon rope rather than a hemp rope.


Sorry you feel threatened by possibility of the Lamb's second coming
within the next year or two.


LOLOL Extra-hard laughter. Now it's moved from March 29 this year to
"within the next year or two."


If the possibility of a global earthquake is realized on 03/29/2006
though there will be many who will wish the Lamb would hurry and come
again to judge, all things will still happen according to the LORD's
will as prophesied by John in Revelation.

Watched an interesting program on TV tonight about David Koresh and the
events at Waco. He was working on explaining what the seven seals meant
when his life ended. Hmmmmm...


It remains my choice to continuing walking with Christ instead of
leaving HIS side to lead.

Please forgive me for being the bearer of
this advisory.


Bwah... "Advisory" emerging only from your over-fevered imaginings and
hyperreligiosity. Your wacko view of Jesus' two genealogies and how it
fits into Revelation - and how you seem to believe that *you* fit into
Revelation - marks you for the wacko you've proven yourself to be. Your
"advisory" with the nonsensical nuclear bombardment that's supposed to
move tectonic plates merely shows how little you understand and how
little you search for fact.


It seems you would attempt to convince people that you are more
experienced about such matters.

I guess that on your planet pointing out your failures is somehow to
covet something.

With the LORD, though we may stumble, HE saves us from falling.

LOL That's funny. Absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.


Where there is no falling... there is no failure.


LOL Now you're saying that you can have no failures because you're
God's little buddy? You have failed, my friend, and failed mightily many
times. It's a sad program you have of denial of your human failings.


Your opinion is meaningless as will be all of your life if you choose
to remain unrepentant toward the LORD.

Hilarious Andrew just has to say *something* even if it has no bearing
on what's happening.


See above.


I've seen it. But you're still posting for the sheer value of posting.


No. The LORD continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.

Good reasoning - like your "truthfully" relentless
assertion after being shown to have lied.

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully. Sorry my choice
seems relentless to you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

Would that you wrote truthfully, Andrew.


I am.


And yet, Andrew, you've been proven to spin a whopper every now and
again. Sometimes directly and sometimes by your friend Occam's Razor.
The only rational reason why you refuse to name the Atlanta restaurant
that serves lobster and crab for $5 is because it doesn't exist. If it
did and you mentioned it, it would be helpful for everyone. The owners
would have more business, customers would be getting good value and
everyone would benefit. Your unwillingness to offer benefit to so many
people can only reasonably be attributed to falsehood. Occam says so.


Occam's Razor is about parsimony and not opinion.

There are many things I have and will continue to refrain from naming.
These things will continue to exist despite my choice. Sorry my choice
distresses you. Again, please forgive all my iniquities for your own
sake.

It's a singular astonishment
how you get caught in your falsehoods and still assert that you're
writing truthfully.


Those who are blind are just as unable to detect the dark as they are
unable to detect the light.


And those who lie and try to avoid the admission post such dissembling
prattle and show themselves anew to be untruthful.


This reminds me of the blind man who would instruct the seeing about
their vision.

It's as though your mental state forbids you to
notice what you're actually doing.


Thankfully, the LORD's gift of a discerning heart overcomes all
deficiencies in one's mental state.


Demonstrably not the case. Now you assert that you have *no*
deficiencies in your mental state? Not one? None?


What is written has been written plainly.

Your choice of repeating that phony comment about being truthful is
what's relentless.


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.


It remains your fantasy that you write truthfully. It is a singular
astonishment that you feel the need to mention your "truthful" writing
so often and in reply to so much proof to the contrary. You sound like
some sleazy used-car salesman who keeps saying, "trust me."


Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly.

You may consider yourself unforgiven. As long as you continue in your
demonstrated path of falsehood and deception.


Again, if you are unwilling to forgive what you judge to be unrepentant
behavior, why should the LORD forgive you for what HE judges to be your
unrepentant behavior?


He shouldn't. But I'm really not worried about it. And, as you say, the
lord's opinion is the only one that matters in this case.


It is written that those who choose to judge others will be judged by
their own measure (Matthew 7).

Please know that you remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name :-))

I love your phony double-chin smiling face. Looks like somebody's ASCII
needs to eat less. Maybe 2#. Bwah...

Sorry my prayers on your behalf bother you. Again, please forgive all
my iniquities.

LOL


Without the LORD, there can only be fathomless despair.


Yadda yadda yadda...


Please know that you remain in my prayers.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

LOL

"Written laughter is silent despair."

LOL


Without the LORD, the despair would be everlasting.


LOL

Right - keep issuing those frantic invitations that no one takes
you up on.

No. I enjoy the chats regardless of the number of folks who attend.
Actually, when there are fewer in attendance, the chats are more
intimate and I get the opportunity to enjoy Paradise more.

Right. You and another person. Small group. Enjoy "paradise" more. It's
paradisaical to sit in front of your computer?


No. The physical location where the LORD has me conduct the chat is
Paradise.


Call it what you will. It's a man's name for a man's thing.


Paradise belongs to the LORD.

Oh, yes, and it would be very entertaining for you to talk
about cooking - after saying that there's no need for recipes.

Chats don't indicate a need.

LOL As though that's what the reference means. Where's that
"discernment" when it could help you understand the obvious?


Knowing your intentions would require the LORD's gift of clairvoyance
and not a discerning heart.


My intentions aren't the subject, as you know. It's your ridiculous
assertion that recipes are unnecessary. It has obviously escaped your
notice (a nice way to point out your unthinking ignorance) that they're
listings of ingredients, and methods and techniques to create
palatable foods. They're formulae, no different than the sort of
technical description that a chemist would need. Since you know
virtually nothing about food and nutrition, its perectly reasonable that
you also know nothing about cooking.


For those who choose to remain hungry, all edible foods are palatable.

Or
nutrition - when you don't know how many calories are in bread or
potatoes

Knowing the weight of either bread or potatoes obviates the need to
guess the number of calories.

There's no need to guess about calories. That's old information, tested
and retested.


Calorie counting without a bomb calorimeter is calorie guessing.


No, it really isn't. Not in the real world where practical
approximations are the order of the day. Much as you "estimate" how much
the food you eat in a day weighs. Approximately, you've indicated by the
way you say you operate.


Reading the numbers off a food scale is not an estimate but a
measurement.

Knowing the weight tells you nothing about its nutritional
components.


Only the LORD is able to tell you about the exact nutritional
components of the food you are about to eat.


*Exact* descriptions of nutritional components aren't necessary.
Particularly since we don't all work like laboratory equipment.


Thank you for affirming that knowing the nutritional components is not
necessary.

So now that you say the nutritional elements in it are not
necessary to know about, how do you plan to discuss nutrition?


Chats are informal casual banter.


LOL So it won't matter what you say because it's "informal casual banter."


Only what the LORD says matters.

Phony...


"Namecalling is the crutch of those hobbling along without the truth."


More selected "wisdom" from Chung. In this case, it's an accurate
description rather than merely offering negative name for the sake of
insult. That's what namecalling is, you know.


The LORD continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.

and that you say it's OK to lie to dieters.

It remains my choice to continue being truthful to all.

Words are cheap.


Not if they are the LORD's.


LOL We're talking about your words, Andrew. They're cheap and false.


It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

Actions are the truth.


Not if they are part of a feign.


We're still talking about you, Andrew. It's your actions that are at isesue.


No.

You've said it's ok to lie -


It seems to be your choice to bear false witness.


Um, you contradict yourself in the next entry.


No.

to
give them deliberately overstated and false information. And the
overstatement was about calories which you say are unimportant.


Calories remain meaningless while there are no practical ways of
measuring them.


See, Andrew, the magic word here is "practical." As opposed to your
rigid insistence about "exact" numbers. Literally millions of people
have demonstrated that the "practical" use of the approximations that
calorie charts are can be useful. Reduced calorie dietary plans work
just fine if adhered to.


Folks don't adhere to them.

Make up your mind.


My mind remains made up.

Not to mention
plate tectonics and nuclear weaponry and realpolitik and biblical
interpretation and ...

Yes. There is something to interest everyone in Paradise.

Sadly, you're ignorant on all those subjects. You've proven it.


Your opinion.


Your words and actions and Occam's Razor.


Your belief.

Ever the fool - Chung.

If you were secure in the truth, you would also have the strength to
resist the temptation of descending into namecalling.

I'm secure in the truth that you are a fool.


"Namecalling is the crutch of those hobbling along without the truth."


A sadly accurate description of how you've degenerated from a man who
used to give rational advice to a fanatic who only rants to give himself
ego strokes. You have too many cliches, Andrew, that don't reflect the
truth as the world sees it. That merely serve to offer you yet more
fodder for your passive-aggressive self-aggrandizement. Quoting yourself
as though you were a font of wisdom is merely hubris at a grand scale.


In truth, you do not know the person whom I am quoting.

Asserting that you have no flaws in your mental state and that since
you're guided by God, you make no mistakes, as you say above, is just
more of the same. Even you should be able to see how wrong that is.


It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 01-02-2006, 02:23 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
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Johnny Dividas wrote:
If I offered to crucify you, knowing that your death would draw people
to the'light' you say is 'christ', would you take me up on the offer?


No. It would be my choice to not make a mockery of what Christ Jesus
has done for us.

Call me.


The LORD has not given me HIS gift of clairvoyance.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 03-02-2006, 06:10 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Johnny Dividas
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Johnny Dividas wrote:
If I offered to crucify you, knowing that your death would draw people
to the'light' you say is 'christ', would you take me up on the offer?


Chung wrote:
No. It would be my choice to not make a mockery of what Christ Jesus
has done for us.

Who mentioned mockery? A bit judgemental of you, Andy.
So, as long as you can proselytize from the safety and comfort of your
home/office/church with no personal risk, you consider that adequate to
bringing people to your religion. You're not willing to sacrifice or
even DIE for your beliefs?

Some would consider you a fraud. Sorry if the truth bothers you.

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Old 03-02-2006, 11:55 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Johnny Dividas wrote:
Johnny Dividas wrote:
If I offered to crucify you, knowing that your death would draw people
to the'light' you say is 'christ', would you take me up on the offer?


Chung wrote:
No. It would be my choice to not make a mockery of what Christ Jesus
has done for us.

Who mentioned mockery?


"Penalties are prepared for mockers, and beatings for the backs of
fools." (Proverbs 19:29)

Please consider forwarding the following link to everyone:

http://tinyurl.com/8juld

Simply imagine how a little preparation anticipating this possibility
could alleviate a lot of suffering for those whom you choose to inform
should this possibility be realized.

Prayerfully in Christ's love always and forever,

Andrew
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Old 03-02-2006, 04:05 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Johnny Dividas
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Andy Chung warned:

"Penalties are prepared for mockers, and beatings for the backs of fools." (Proverbs 19:29)



Now, now, Andy.If you were secure in the truth, you would also have the
strength to resist the temptation of descending into namecalling.
Remember, "namecalling is the crutch of those hobbling along without
the truth."

Now, back to the part of my post you discarded and ignored:

As long as you can proselytize from the safety and comfort of your
home/office/church with no personal risk, you seem to consider that
adequate to bringing people to your religion. Are you not willing to
sacrifice or even DIE for your beliefs?

A question has been posed to you, "doctor". Answer it.

Many more now consider you a fraud. Sorry if the truth bothers you.

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Old 04-02-2006, 08:45 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Simply imagine how a little preparation anticipating this possibility
could alleviate a lot of suffering for those whom you choose to inform
should this possibility be realized.


Imagine how many people would be grateful if you'd just post the name of
that fabulous restaurant in Atlanta where lobster and crab are $5.


The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform others to their benefit and
not to further the idolatry of food worship.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/09/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 04-02-2006, 08:45 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Johnny Dividas wrote:
Andy Chung quoted:

"Penalties are prepared for mockers, and beatings for the backs of fools." (Proverbs 19:29)


Now, now, Andy.If you were secure in the truth,


Those who walk with Christ are secure in the truth for HE **is** the
truth.

you would also have the
strength to resist the temptation of descending into namecalling.


Those who walk with Christ have HIS infinite strength.

Remember, "namecalling is the crutch of those hobbling along without
the truth."


Correct.

Now, back to the part of my post you discarded and ignored:

As long as you can proselytize from the safety and comfort of your
home/office/church with no personal risk, you seem to consider that
adequate to bringing people to your religion.


The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either
proselytize nor to convert.

Are you not willing to
sacrifice or even DIE for your beliefs?


It remains my choice to obey the LORD and not test Him.

A question has been posed to you, "doctor". Answer it.


Asked and answered.

Many more now consider you a fraud.


Their opinion is as meaningless as yours. Only the LORD's opinion
matters.

Sorry if the truth bothers you.


The LORD does not bother me but is the Source of my strength.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/09/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld

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Old 04-02-2006, 10:33 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Simply imagine how a little preparation anticipating this possibility
could alleviate a lot of suffering for those whom you choose to inform
should this possibility be realized.

Imagine how many people would be grateful if you'd just post the name of
that fabulous restaurant in Atlanta where lobster and crab are $5.


The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform others to their benefit and
not to further the idolatry of food worship.


What wonderful, fake King Jamesian prattle.


Consider yourself informed.

You see it coming though you may choose to close your eyes and feign
sleep.

Iran is now making weapons grade plutonium full tilt rejecting all
diplomacy in response to plans to bring her before the U.N. Security
Council in March. Their stated plan is to wipe Israel off the face of
the planet. Military action against Iran appears to be imminent. We
may very well find out that Iran already has WMDs compliments of Saddam
when she uses them on U.S. troops.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/29/05) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

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Old 05-02-2006, 04:52 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,rec.food.cooking
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_1_]
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Bob (this one) wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Bob (this one) wrote:


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Simply imagine how a little preparation anticipating this possibility
could alleviate a lot of suffering for those whom you choose to inform
should this possibility be realized.

Imagine how many people would be grateful if you'd just post the name of
that fabulous restaurant in Atlanta where lobster and crab are $5.

The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform others to their benefit and
not to further the idolatry of food worship.

What wonderful, fake King Jamesian prattle.


Consider yourself informed.


LOL


"Written laughter is silent despair."

With fake King Jamesian prattle...?


....despite your opinion that what you have read is prattle.

So it's not to people's benefit to eat good quality food for low prices?


Not when there is overeating.

How come you were so enthused about the place when you first mentioned
it?


They are acknowledging that food should be quantified by weight.

Were you worshipping food then?


No.

And if you were not, what makes you
think that others wouldn't do the same?


Your behavior.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those
following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/09/06) from
6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/8juld