zxcvbob wrote:
kevnbro wrote:

Here, Sam's is one of the more expensive places to buy meat, and it
looks a little better (not much) than what's in the supermarkets. The
supermarkets all sell watered-down Wal-mart meat now.

Bob


What's "watered-down WalMart meat"?

The package says, "Enhanced with up to 12 percent solution." The
solution is sodium phosphate, becaues the phosphate allow the meat to
absorb lots of water. Some of them say something like "deep basted (c)"
The brands are Farmland and Hormel, and they supply just about all the
pork in the Midwest now.

Fareway supermarket stores do have un-injected pork - at least here in
my area. But our main chain (Hy-Vee) has nothing but - even in the
"fresh" meat case. I can go to a small town locker, though, and buy
unadultered pork any time.

N.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

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readandpostrosie wrote:
because its a better piece of meat?



Here, Sam's is one of the more expensive places to buy meat, and it looks
a little better (not much) than what's in the supermarkets. The
supermarkets all sell watered-down Wal-mart meat now.

Bob

Where's "here"?

Meen-a-soh-ta.
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http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-15-2006, RIP Connie Drew

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Steve Wertz wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:14:29 GMT, "readandpostrosie"
wrote:

because its a better piece of meat?

What we need is another Mad Cow scare to bring the prices down
again. Actually, we don't need a "scare", we just need to hear
the results of accurate testing (AKA: the "truth").

I think the mad cow scare is what drove the phreakin prices UP!!!
They've only recently become reasonable again. HEB had beautiful
boneless chuck roasts this week for $2.79. Chuck used to be cheaper, but
it got even higher than that for a couple of years.

I cleaned my Hamilton grill and will be marinating and grilling one of
those that I bought tomorrow. ;-d

Or, if it's not raining, I may fire up the outdoor wood grill.....
I have some mesquite to burn. :-)


Does anybody really think the meat supply here in the US is as
mad-cow free as the USDA and meat lobby want us to believe?

One can only hope!

It's all politics. Plenty of JKD to go around for everyone.
They're (USDA and Meat Lobby) just in Containment Mode right now.

-sw

Well, well cooked beef should be safe, just don't eat spinal or brain
tissue.

But, I prefer my beef rare to raw.

We all have to die sometime.........
I'm not going to worry about it.

If I could afford it, I'd eat more Ostrich! That stuff is awesome!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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readandpostrosie wrote:
because its a better piece of meat?



Here, Sam's is one of the more expensive places to buy meat, and it
looks
a little better (not much) than what's in the supermarkets. The
supermarkets all sell watered-down Wal-mart meat now.

Bob

Where's "here"?

Meen-a-soh-ta.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-15-2006, RIP Connie Drew

All your supermarkets sell crappy meat? Notice the word "all". You've tried
all of the ones which are nearby?

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:


"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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readandpostrosie wrote:

because its a better piece of meat?



Here, Sam's is one of the more expensive places to buy meat, and it
looks
a little better (not much) than what's in the supermarkets. The
supermarkets all sell watered-down Wal-mart meat now.

Bob

Where's "here"?

Meen-a-soh-ta.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-15-2006, RIP Connie Drew


All your supermarkets sell crappy meat? Notice the word "all". You've tried
all of the ones which are nearby?




All of them sell crappy pork and chicken. Even the very good-looking
country ribs I bought a week ago at the last independant supermarket in
town (Silver Lake Foods) were obviously full of water when I cooked them.

I haven't bought any beef in a year or two (except whole briskets and a
couple of pounds of frozen hamburger I got at Aldi to check it out) We
still have some beef left in the freezer from cattle that my FIL raised
and had butchered. When it's gone, it's gone, cuz he's gone. :-(

The last real beef that I bought was a couple of Porterhouse steaks from
Cub Foods. They were expensive but very good; compared to the prices
now they were a bargain. Last time I was at Wal-mart, I looked closely
at the beef and it was "enhanced" with "solution". So all the other
supermarket beef is probably injected (or tumbled), but I don't know
that. There are some small grocery stores in the surrounding towns that
might have good meat; I dunno. There's also a grocery store downtown
near the synagogue that has a reputation for selling good meat. The
butcher shop takes up half the store. I should check it out too.

Maybe I need to buy a half a hog early next winter and cut it up myself.
I can hang it from the rafters in the garage...

Best regards,
Bob

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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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readandpostrosie wrote:
because its a better piece of meat?

Here, Sam's is one of the more expensive places to buy meat, and
it looks a little better (not much) than what's in the
supermarkets. The supermarkets all sell watered-down Wal-mart
meat now.


Bob

Where's "here"?

Meen-a-soh-ta.


All your supermarkets sell crappy meat? Notice the word "all". You've tried
all of the ones which are nearby?

You asking me or Bob?
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http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-15-2006, RIP Connie Drew

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zxcvbob wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
(snippage)

All your supermarkets sell crappy meat? Notice the word "all". You've tried
all of the ones which are nearby?




All of them sell crappy pork and chicken. Even the very good-looking
country ribs I bought a week ago at the last independant supermarket in
town (Silver Lake Foods) were obviously full of water when I cooked them.

-snip-

Maybe I need to buy a half a hog early next winter and cut it up
myself. I can hang it from the rafters in the garage...
Bob

You telling me there are aren't any independent butcher shops down
there? I've gotten great meat at Von Hanson's (a chain of butcher shops
now, there are so many of them) but the price was wicked. I'm happy
with Cub; I'm not very fussy.
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:

(snippage)


All your supermarkets sell crappy meat? Notice the word "all". You've tried
all of the ones which are nearby?




All of them sell crappy pork and chicken. Even the very good-looking
country ribs I bought a week ago at the last independant supermarket in
town (Silver Lake Foods) were obviously full of water when I cooked them.


-snip-

Maybe I need to buy a half a hog early next winter and cut it up
myself. I can hang it from the rafters in the garage...
Bob


You telling me there are aren't any independent butcher shops down
there? I've gotten great meat at Von Hanson's (a chain of butcher shops
now, there are so many of them) but the price was wicked. I'm happy
with Cub; I'm not very fussy.


There are one or two, and they are *really* expensive. When I run out
of good meat from the freezer I'll have to start buying from them when I
need good stuff. Usually the stuff from Cub or Silver Lake Foods is
good enough, but I have to be careful when I cook it to allow for all
the extra water. The only meat I buy at Walmart is whole briskets and
frozen turkeys.

We eat a lot or ground turkey (79¢ a pound at Aldi) and roast turkey.
And whatever cured meat products I can find in the used meat bin at
Silver Lake Foods.

Bob

"zxcvbob" wrote in message

The package says, "Enhanced with up to 12 percent solution." The solution
is sodium phosphate, becaues the phosphate allow the meat to absorb lots
of water. Some of them say something like "deep basted (c)" The brands
are Farmland and Hormel, and they supply just about all the pork in the
Midwest now.

And as long as people are dumb enough to buy that crap, the markets will
sell it. I'm fortunate that we still have a few sources of real meat.

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Steve Wertz wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:28:50 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
wrote:

If I could afford it, I'd eat more Ostrich! That stuff is awesome!

Every time I've eaten ostrich, I end up burping and farting
ostrich for days afterwards.

-sw

Yeesh.

Did you get fresh frozen, fillet or ground, and did you over-cook it?

The FF fillet's from Central Market are some of the finest meat I've
ever had. Ostrich fillet is every bit as good as some of the finest and
most tender beef.

I serve them bloody rare.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

Steve Wertz wrote:

It's all politics. Plenty of JKD to go around for everyone.
They're (USDA and Meat Lobby) just in Containment Mode right now.

Well, well cooked beef should be safe, just don't eat spinal or brain
tissue.

Actually, no. The prions that are responsible for it aren't affected by
cooking, no matter the degree of doneness.

Pastorio

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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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readandpostrosie wrote:
because its a better piece of meat?

Here, Sam's is one of the more expensive places to buy meat, and
it looks a little better (not much) than what's in the
supermarkets. The supermarkets all sell watered-down Wal-mart
meat now.


Bob

Where's "here"?

Meen-a-soh-ta.


All your supermarkets sell crappy meat? Notice the word "all". You've
tried
all of the ones which are nearby?

You asking me or Bob?
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http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-15-2006, RIP Connie Drew

You. I asked because it's outrageous that at least one chain or independent
isn't trying to fill the niche left by the dummies who think the public only
wants adulterated meat products. The independents, in particular, are no
longer as "independent" as they used to be. In most cases, they're able to
deal with wholesalers whose buying power (and selection) is greater than
that of the smaller chains. But, we tend not to look closely at those
stores, and sometimes we miss a good thing.

"Bob (this one)" wrote in message
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

Steve Wertz wrote:

It's all politics. Plenty of JKD to go around for everyone.
They're (USDA and Meat Lobby) just in Containment Mode right now.

Well, well cooked beef should be safe, just don't eat spinal or brain
tissue.

Actually, no. The prions that are responsible for it aren't affected by
cooking, no matter the degree of doneness.

Pastorio

It's amazing that after all the publicity, so few people have learned this
from all the news.

Doug Kanter wrote:

I asked because it's outrageous that at least one chain or independent
isn't trying to fill the niche left by the dummies who think the public only
wants adulterated meat products. The independents, in particular, are no
longer as "independent" as they used to be. In most cases, they're able to
deal with wholesalers whose buying power (and selection) is greater than
that of the smaller chains. But, we tend not to look closely at those
stores, and sometimes we miss a good thing.

Costco. Best meats for a long distance around, including the independents.

Pastorio

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

I think the mad cow scare is what drove the phreakin prices UP!!!

I think the low carb diets are what brought prices up. Supply and demand.