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Old 18-01-2006, 04:40 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I'm due to receive my first order tomorrow. Just standard-use herbs. My
question is: where is the best place to store the unused portions after I
refill all my spice jars? Kitchen cabinet, refrigerator, freezer or ?

'Would appreciate advice.

Thanks.

Ken
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Old 18-01-2006, 04:49 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Ken Lopez wrote:
I'm due to receive my first order tomorrow. Just standard-use herbs. My
question is: where is the best place to store the unused portions after I
refill all my spice jars? Kitchen cabinet, refrigerator, freezer or ?



Sealed plastic bags in the freezer-- assuming you have the freezer
space, of course. If not, the cupboard is fine.


--Lia

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Old 18-01-2006, 05:24 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Julia Altshuler" wrote

Ken Lopez wrote:
I'm due to receive my first order tomorrow.


That'll be fun. Let us know how it goes.

Just standard-use herbs. My
question is: where is the best place to store the unused portions after
I
refill all my spice jars? Kitchen cabinet, refrigerator, freezer or ?


Sealed plastic bags in the freezer-- assuming you have the freezer space,
of course. If not, the cupboard is fine.


Yeah, I keep most of mine in the freezer, but so long as they are
kept out of bright light and away from heat, you're fine.

nancy




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Old 18-01-2006, 06:44 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Nancy Young wrote:
Yeah, I keep most of mine in the freezer, but so long as they are
kept out of bright light and away from heat, you're fine.


I am just waiting for someone to make a million bucks on an electric
spice cellar. Like the wine cellar out there that keeps wine at the
perfect temperature and humidity, so could there be a wall-mounted for
easy access, spice cellar (or tower) that is econimical and frees up
cabinet space for other items.

Mark my words.

Karen

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Old 18-01-2006, 11:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Julia Altshuler
Ken Lopez wrote:
I'm due to receive my first order tomorrow. Just standard-use herbs. My
question is: where is the best place to store the unused portions after I
refill all my spice jars? Kitchen cabinet, refrigerator, freezer or ?



Sealed plastic bags in the freezer-- assuming you have the freezer
space, of course. If not, the cupboard is fine.


--Lia
The freezer is the worst place to store herb/spices. Any food with exposed edges is prone to freezer burn. With herbs/spices, you're talking the most exposed edges possible. Every edge becomes the perfect receptor for freezer burn/freezer smell absorption. If you're uncertain regarding how freezer smell tastes, melt a few old ice cubes and drink them. Nasty. With herbs you'll get that times 20.

Even out of the freezer you don't want to store herbs/spices in plastic. Although heat and light are enemies, air does just as much damage. Plastic is too permeable for storing spices more than a handful of months.
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Old 18-01-2006, 11:35 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Karen wrote on 18 Jan 2006 in rec.food.cooking


Nancy Young wrote:
Yeah, I keep most of mine in the freezer, but so long as they are
kept out of bright light and away from heat, you're fine.


I am just waiting for someone to make a million bucks on an electric
spice cellar. Like the wine cellar out there that keeps wine at the
perfect temperature and humidity, so could there be a wall-mounted for
easy access, spice cellar (or tower) that is econimical and frees up
cabinet space for other items.

Mark my words.

Karen



been done...it's called the 2nd upright freezer.

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But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.
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Old 19-01-2006, 04:03 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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scott123 wrote:

The freezer is the worst place to store herb/spices. Any food with
exposed edges is prone to freezer burn. With herbs/spices, you're
talking the most exposed edges possible. Every edge becomes the perfect
receptor for freezer burn/freezer smell absorption. If you're uncertain
regarding how freezer smell tastes, melt a few old ice cubes and drink
them. Nasty. With herbs you'll get that times 20.

Even out of the freezer you don't want to store herbs/spices in
plastic. Although heat and light are enemies, air does just as much
damage. Plastic is too permeable for storing spices more than a
handful of months.



What do you suggest instead?


--Lia

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Julia Altshuler wrote on 18 Jan 2006 in rec.food.cooking

scott123 wrote:

The freezer is the worst place to store herb/spices. Any food with
exposed edges is prone to freezer burn. With herbs/spices, you're
talking the most exposed edges possible. Every edge becomes the
perfect receptor for freezer burn/freezer smell absorption. If
you're uncertain regarding how freezer smell tastes, melt a few old
ice cubes and drink them. Nasty. With herbs you'll get that times
20.

Even out of the freezer you don't want to store herbs/spices in
plastic. Although heat and light are enemies, air does just as much
damage. Plastic is too permeable for storing spices more than a
handful of months.



What do you suggest instead?


--Lia



I suggest the freezer...double bag.


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But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.
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Old 21-01-2006, 02:00 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:03:56 -0500, Julia Altshuler
wrote:

scott123 wrote:

The freezer is the worst place to store herb/spices. Any food with
exposed edges is prone to freezer burn. With herbs/spices, you're
talking the most exposed edges possible. Every edge becomes the perfect
receptor for freezer burn/freezer smell absorption. If you're uncertain
regarding how freezer smell tastes, melt a few old ice cubes and drink
them. Nasty. With herbs you'll get that times 20.

Even out of the freezer you don't want to store herbs/spices in
plastic. Although heat and light are enemies, air does just as much
damage. Plastic is too permeable for storing spices more than a
handful of months.



What do you suggest instead?


--Lia

yeah Scott...enquiring minds want to know...what is the solution?
Bill

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Old 21-01-2006, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Julia Altshuler
scott123 wrote:

The freezer is the worst place to store herb/spices. Any food with
exposed edges is prone to freezer burn. With herbs/spices, you're
talking the most exposed edges possible. Every edge becomes the perfect
receptor for freezer burn/freezer smell absorption. If you're uncertain
regarding how freezer smell tastes, melt a few old ice cubes and drink
them. Nasty. With herbs you'll get that times 20.

Even out of the freezer you don't want to store herbs/spices in
plastic. Although heat and light are enemies, air does just as much
damage. Plastic is too permeable for storing spices more than a
handful of months.



What do you suggest instead?


--Lia
Glass jars with metal, rubber sealed, air tight lids, stored in a cool dark place. I have a collection of old mayo and peanut butter jars that I use. Plastic lids aren't the end of the world if that's all you've got. A cool dark place is ideal as well, but a kitchen cabinet is fine too. The glass jar is critical, though, as glass is quite a bit less permeable than plastic.

I actually have more spices/herbs than I do jars. I make sure, though, that anything I plan on storing long term makes it into glass. It makes a huge difference.
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Old 22-01-2006, 05:37 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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scott123 wrote:

Glass jars with metal, rubber sealed, air tight lids, stored in a cool
dark place. I have a collection of old mayo and peanut butter jars
that I use. Plastic lids aren't the end of the world if that's all
you've got. A cool dark place is ideal as well, but a kitchen cabinet
is fine too. The glass jar is critical, though, as glass is quite a
bit less permeable than plastic.

I actually have more spices/herbs than I do jars. I make sure, though,
that anything I plan on storing long term makes it into glass. It makes
a huge difference.



Thanks. I haven't tried it (I've always been happy with thick ziploc
bags), but I may in the future.


--Lia

 




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