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Update: Hershey's Extra Dark 60%



 
 
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:53 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
Mark Thorson
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freedom4all wrote:

So why shouldn't you just eat a Dove bar? Well . . . the
chocolate found in candy is PROCESSED chocolate and it is
laden with fat, wax, fillers, preservatives and sugar.
Xocai contains completely natural, unprocessed chocolate
which retains 100% of its antioxidant and nutritional value!
In addition Xocai contains no fat, no sugar is high
in fiber AND tastes wonderful!


This link will download the United Nations
Codex standard for chocolate:
http://www.caobisco.com/english/pdf/STAN87-EN.pdf

As you can see from the table at the top
of page 3, the minimum fat content for
any kind of chocolate is 12%. For an
unsweetened chocolate, it's 50%. A product
which does not contain at least this much
fat is not chocolate.

This link will bring up the section of the
U.S. Code of Federal Regulations for chocolate:
http://frwebgate3.access.gpo.gov/cgi...ion =retrieve

Most chocolate products are defined in terms
of their % of chocolate liqour. For example,
Sec. 163.123 in paragraph (b)(3) says:

"Semisweet chocolate or bittersweet chocolate
is sweet chocolate that contains not less than
35 percent by weight of chocolate liquor
complying with the requirements of Sec. 163.111
and calculated in the same manner as set forth
in paragraph (a)(2) of this section."

When we go to the definition of chocolate
liquor in Sec. 163.111 paragraph (a)(1),
we see:

"Chocolate liquor contains not less than
50 percent nor more than 60 percent by weight
of cacao fat as determined by the method
prescribed in Sec. 163.5(b)."

Therefore, the minimum fat content of
semisweet or bittersweet chocolate is
35% x 50% = 17.5%


No matter which set of standards are used,
it appears that a product which contains
no fat is NOT chocolate.
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2006, 04:20 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
Mark Thorson
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freedom4all wrote:

Dear Mark,

Thank you for defining what chocolate is. You have shown that
chocolate by definition contain fat (an ingredients that is
bad to our health). Not just that - sugar too.
In my excitement, I have over exaggerate (contains no fat, no sugar .


It's not that Xocai is incorrectly called "chocolate"
and "fat-free, but also "unprocessed".

In other words, it is marketed on a river of lies.
If the marketers of Xocai are willing to say stuff
that is obviously false, why would I assume their
stuff is safe to eat? I don't.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:13 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
bobbie sellers
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On 5 Mar 2006 14:09:44 -0800,"freedom4all", wrote

Dear Mark,

Thank you for defining what chocolate is. You have shown that
chocolate by definition contain fat (an ingredients that is bad to
our health). Not just that - sugar too.


Fat is hardly bad for one's health. Nor is sugar but some of
the substitutes for fat and sugar can lead to digestive upset as
I have been learning with sucralose sweeten cough drops.
Sugar is fine and so are the better class of fats such as
cocoa butter as long as moderation is the key to use of these
ingredients.

In my excitement, I have over exaggerate (contains no fat, no sugar


No in your advertising you exaggerate.
Advertising in the newsgroup is a forbidden activity and if we
bother to complain to the ISP you use you could lose your account.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ One
fluid ounce of Xoçai™ contains only 25 calories, less than one gram
of fat, and only two grams of naturally occurring sugar. Xoçai™ has
a low glycemic index and three ounces of Xoçai™ is a high source of
fiber.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++
Compare to many chocolate product oyt there, Xocai is a healthy
chocolate. You can disqualified Xocai as part of the "chocolate"
family, but to me (seeing or in this case tasting is believing). My
family have being taking this (beverage & nugget) for over three
months now and loving them. To us they taste like chocolate and help
fulfill our love for chocolate but also help us in maintaining a
healthy lifestyle (benefits of chocolate without the guilt).


To you they taste like chocolate most likely because you don't have
any real experience of tasting good chocolate.

A cheaper choice would be Trader Joe's 72% bitter-sweet Pound Plus
whichg contains per serving size of one ounce or 36 grams, 200 calories
and 120 calories from fat. 13 grams of sugar and 3 grams of protein.

And if it seems like two much eat half a serving of good chocolate
rather than a full one.

I am losing weight including 1/3 to 1/2 ounce of this fine chocolate
in my diet and I don't have to worry about any peculiar side effects
from
stuff that chocolate should not touch.

And this product contain no cholesterol, trans fat or sodium.

And it is not measured in fluid ounces but by weight.

So take your fat reduced anti-chocolate and MLM scheme to some group
besides rec.food.chocolate. Please!

You can call it "Xocai" but your post is SPAM

later
bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
--from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

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Old 08-03-2006, 03:06 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
freedom4all
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Dear All Readers,

Mark, Bobbie, or anyone (including myself) can go on forever with you
say, I say. It is not productive and usually become negative as can be
seen here in the previous posts. I suggest anyone (who wants to know if
Xocai can delivery what it claims) to find out for themselves. Visit
MXI Corp. (manufacturer) for a tour of their manufacturing process and
expereince first hand. Do you own research.

MXI Corp. MXI Corp was established by the Founders of Pure De-lite
Products, Inc. Pure De-lite is recognized as one of the leading
distributors of low-carb, sugar-free chocolate in the United States.
Pure De-lite™ chocolates have achieved top honors and accolades from
companies such as the American Culinary Institute, CNN, and Health &
Fitness as "The Best Low-Carb, Sugar- Free Chocolates" in the
marketplace. For six consecutive years the best selling Pure De-lite™
product has been the antioxidant-rich dark chocolate bar.

MXI Corp., 1150 Trademark Drive, Reno, Nevada 89521. 1-866-4MXI-CORP

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Old 08-03-2006, 03:29 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
freedom4all
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Dear Bobbie,

Fat is hardly bad for one's health. Nor is sugar but some of
the substitutes for fat and sugar can lead to digestive upset as
I have been learning with sucralose sweeten cough drops.
Sugar is fine and so are the better class of fats such as
cocoa butter as long as moderation is the key to use of these
ingredients.


Agreed. When I say fat & sugar is bad, I am referring to when in excess
- found in many commercial chocolate today.


No in your advertising you exaggerate.
Advertising in the newsgroup is a forbidden activity and if we
bother to complain to the ISP you use you could lose your account.


Take it how you like. My intention - to share what I have found, are
enjoying
and benefiting.

To you they taste like chocolate most likely because you don't have
any real experience of tasting good chocolate.


Do you know what chocolate I have taken? Have you tasted Xocai?
Anyway, your statement has no weight whatsoever. As I reply in my other
post,
if one really are looking for a product that can better one's health
and want to
know if Xocai is what it claims to be, he or she will need to do the
research
themselves and also taste it and experience for oneself. I can only
provide
so much inform.

So take your fat reduced anti-chocolate and MLM scheme to some group
besides rec.food.chocolate. Please!


Yes, Xocai is marketed via MLM. Any product has to be marketed some how
or
another. You refer to Trader's Joe product. How do I know you are not
presenting
Trader's Joe? But then again, does that matter if the product works?
Anyway,
my intention is to share what I found. I have provided the MXI Corp.
office and all readers can go direct to them, do not have to go through
me.

Healthy Chocolate Rocks!!

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Old 08-03-2006, 10:42 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
david Hume
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On 7 Mar 2006 18:29:00 -0800, "freedom4all"
wrote:

Dear Bobbie,

Fat is hardly bad for one's health. Nor is sugar but some of
the substitutes for fat and sugar can lead to digestive upset as
I have been learning with sucralose sweeten cough drops.
Sugar is fine and so are the better class of fats such as
cocoa butter as long as moderation is the key to use of these
ingredients.


Agreed. When I say fat & sugar is bad, I am referring to when in excess
- found in many commercial chocolate today.


No in your advertising you exaggerate.
Advertising in the newsgroup is a forbidden activity and if we
bother to complain to the ISP you use you could lose your account.


Take it how you like. My intention - to share what I have found, are
enjoying
and benefiting.

To you they taste like chocolate most likely because you don't have
any real experience of tasting good chocolate.


Do you know what chocolate I have taken? Have you tasted Xocai?
Anyway, your statement has no weight whatsoever. As I reply in my other
post,
if one really are looking for a product that can better one's health
and want to
know if Xocai is what it claims to be, he or she will need to do the
research
themselves and also taste it and experience for oneself. I can only
provide
so much inform.

So take your fat reduced anti-chocolate and MLM scheme to some group
besides rec.food.chocolate. Please!


Yes, Xocai is marketed via MLM. Any product has to be marketed some how
or
another. You refer to Trader's Joe product. How do I know you are not
presenting
Trader's Joe? But then again, does that matter if the product works?
Anyway,
my intention is to share what I found. I have provided the MXI Corp.
office and all readers can go direct to them, do not have to go through
me.

Healthy Chocolate Rocks!!


You are so full of crap.
You haven't a clue about whats healthy. Just trying to make money
MLM. I've seen your type sooooooooooo many times over the last 30yrs.
Just another bullshiter and not a very good one ether.
Go away boy your embarrassing to your race.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:56 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
freedom4all
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To all readers,

Again .... you say, I say. It is not productive and very negative.
Real seekers, find out for yourselves. Don't have to believe me.
Do you own research.

Dear David . . .Say what you want. Does not change the fact that I am
healthier (I know it, my daily blood test shows it) and many Xocai's
users experience similar health benefits. We are sharing the good news
to people everywhere. Some welcome it and some don't (like yourselves).
As for MLM, I can see you are not a believer. That's is your choice.
Not point discussing MLM as this is not the place/post.

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Old 08-03-2006, 07:04 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
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freedom4all wrote:

Dear All Readers,


*plonk*



Brian

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If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:30 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
david Hume
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On 8 Mar 2006 02:56:02 -0800, "freedom4all"
wrote:

To all readers,

Again .... you say, I say. It is not productive and very negative.
Real seekers, find out for yourselves. Don't have to believe me.
Do you own research.

Dear David . . .Say what you want. Does not change the fact that I am
healthier (I know it, my daily blood test shows it) and many Xocai's
users experience similar health benefits. We are sharing the good news
to people everywhere. Some welcome it and some don't (like yourselves).
As for MLM, I can see you are not a believer. That's is your choice.
Not point discussing MLM as this is not the place/post.

Take Fat family of yours and hit the gym .
You are so full of shit.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:39 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
Mark Thorson
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Default Update: Hershey's Extra Dark 60%

freedom4all wrote:

Dear All Readers,

Mark, Bobbie, or anyone (including myself) can go on
forever with you say, I say. It is not productive and usually
become negative as can be seen here in the previous posts.


Negative, as in not good for sales. Negative,
as in not letting you get away with your many lies.

You claimed the product was fat-free, then
reversed yourself, after your lie was exposed.

You also claimed the product was unprocessed,
which is inconsistent with its other claimed
properties. For example, the cacao bean
is naturally high in fat. How can the fat
be removed without processing? Chocolate
itself is made using fermentation, roasting,
and grinding processes. There's no such
thing as unprocessed chocolate.

You claimed the product is chocolate, which
is also inconsistent with its other claimed
properties. Chocolate is naturally high in
fat, must have a minimum level of fat
(depending on chocolate type and regulatory
compliance body, a dark chocolate requires
35 to 50%).

With so many lies being told about this product,
a person would have to be crazy to even touch it.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:20 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
freedom4all
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Again, you can give as many negative comments as you want or attack me
with words ..... Does not change the facts. If you think Fat people
are not healthy, that your thinking. And by the way, my family enjoy
fitness center regularly. Bye.

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Old 09-03-2006, 08:13 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
freedom4all
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Site already provided. Go do your own research. Goodbye.

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Old 10-03-2006, 02:22 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
Mark Thorson
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freedom4all wrote:

Site already provided. Go do your own research. Goodbye.


I've already done enough research. This product
is sold by liars, who will say anything to close
the deal.

You claimed the product was fat-free, then
reversed yourself, after your lie was exposed.

You also claimed the product was unprocessed,
which is inconsistent with its other claimed
properties. For example, the cacao bean
is naturally high in fat. How can the fat
be removed without processing? Chocolate
itself is made using fermentation, roasting,
and grinding processes. There's no such
thing as unprocessed chocolate.

You claimed the product is chocolate, which
is also inconsistent with its other claimed
properties. Chocolate is naturally high in
fat, must have a minimum level of fat
(depending on chocolate type and regulatory
compliance body, a dark chocolate requires
35 to 50%).

With so many lies being told about this product,
a person would have to be crazy to even touch it.
Or to do business with slime like you.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:34 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.chocolate
david Hume
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On 9 Mar 2006 06:20:00 -0800, "freedom4all"
wrote:

Again, you can give as many negative comments as you want or attack me
with words ..... Does not change the facts. If you think Fat people
are not healthy, that your thinking. And by the way, my family enjoy
fitness center regularly. Bye.


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