They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

I was walking by the meat counter and spotted some pork ribs marked "pork ribs
brisket bone removed". I've never seen that before so I walked to girl standing
there "chatting" with what I assume was a girlfriend. I waited for several
minutes and finally interrupted her chatter and said "Excuse me I have a
question" Now she worked in the meat department and I said " I have never seen
this statement before are these similar to a Saint Louis cut?" She answered "I
don't know but let me get the butcher for you." she stuck her head into the meat
department and yelled for "Miguel" I think. Miguel came out and I asked the
same question. He looked as if I had asked him to recite the declaration of
independence in Swahili - He mumbled something almost intelligible in a
Mexican accent one could cut with a knife.

STOP right here! I lived in Mexico for several years and I have no problem with
Mexican people at all.

I opted to purchase the package anyway and they smoked up very well and were a
decent value. I will probably purchase them again.

But Damn I would like to be able to communicate with people in the language of
my country.

Rant Over.

Dimitri

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:16:28 GMT, "Dimitri"
wrote:

They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

I was walking by the meat counter and spotted some pork ribs marked "pork ribs
brisket bone removed". I've never seen that before so I walked to girl standing
there "chatting" with what I assume was a girlfriend. I waited for several
minutes and finally interrupted her chatter and said "Excuse me I have a
question" Now she worked in the meat department and I said " I have never seen
this statement before are these similar to a Saint Louis cut?" She answered "I
don't know but let me get the butcher for you." she stuck her head into the meat
department and yelled for "Miguel" I think. Miguel came out and I asked the
same question. He looked as if I had asked him to recite the declaration of
independence in Swahili - He mumbled something almost intelligible in a
Mexican accent one could cut with a knife.

STOP right here! I lived in Mexico for several years and I have no problem with
Mexican people at all.

I opted to purchase the package anyway and they smoked up very well and were a
decent value. I will probably purchase them again.

But Damn I would like to be able to communicate with people in the language of
my country.

Rant Over.

Dimitri

Than language was not your barrier, I'll wager. From what I have read
of the infamous owners of Sam's, they have gotten rid of meat cutters
in their many of their stores because of attempts at unionizing. Your
"butcher" may have been that in title only.

Than again. you might have been lucky to be in a store with a meat
cutter & unlucky to find one that didn't know his brisket bone from
his elbow in English.

Boron

Dimitri wrote:
They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.
[snip]
- He mumbled something almost intelligible in a
Mexican accent one could cut with a knife.

STOP right here! I lived in Mexico for several years and I have no problem with
Mexican people at all.

LOL. The one and only Sam's Club I've ever been in was in Mazatlán,
Mexico. -aem

Dimitri wrote:

But Damn I would like to be able to communicate with people in the language of
my country.

Rant Over.

Long, Long time ago... My mother taught English to folks who came to the
US from Mexico. She herself, was the only one of eight children to be
born, of German parents, here in the US. She is also the only one of the
10 (parents plus 8 offspring) who does NOT speak German.

You see. when her parents decided to become American Citizens... They
decreed the language of the house was to be AMERICAN ENGLISH! (And trust
me, when a German decrees, (s)he decrees!) except for prayers (long
story ommitted)

You see, at that time, folks were proud to come to Americia and thus
worked hard to learn the language. Same for the Mexicans who came over
whom my mother taught English to (She did speak fluent Mexican Spanish,
side effect, she taught them, they taught her)

Today.... In many cases, I find it's the grandchildren (or later) of the
original immigrants who want a return to "The old language" or rather
what they think is the old language.

Plus, Thanks in part to the fracturing of Americia (Interesting, Marx,
in his plan to dominate the world, used this very fracturing as one of
his tools...Now, what I do not know (and I point this out only to state
that I truly do not know)is is this fracturing due to manulipation by
his followers, or did he just predict (very accuratly) it's happening)
(P.N. (that's post note) I prefer to believe prophecy as opposed to
manipulation)

Anyway, back to Thanks in part to thefracturing of Americia, I find
folks who come over the boarder today are not as interested in learning
the new toung... Many of them make no effort to learn english at all

This is very simply wrong... I I were, say, to move to Germany,,, I'd
want to be learning German

--
John in Detroit E-Dress is smoked, try: w a 8 y x m at a r r l dot n e t

"Dimitri" wrote in message
t...
They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

I was walking by the meat counter and spotted some pork ribs marked "pork
ribs brisket bone removed". I've never seen that before so I walked to
girl standing there "chatting" with what I assume was a girlfriend. I
waited for several minutes and finally interrupted her chatter and said
"Excuse me I have a question" Now she worked in the meat department and I
said " I have never seen this statement before are these similar to a
Saint Louis cut?" She answered "I don't know but let me get the butcher
for you." she stuck her head into the meat department and yelled for
"Miguel" I think. Miguel came out and I asked the same question. He
looked as if I had asked him to recite the declaration of independence in
Swahili - He mumbled something almost intelligible in a Mexican accent
one could cut with a knife.

STOP right here! I lived in Mexico for several years and I have no
problem with Mexican people at all.

I opted to purchase the package anyway and they smoked up very well and
were a decent value. I will probably purchase them again.

But Damn I would like to be able to communicate with people in the
language of my country.

Rant Over.

Dimitri
You were lucky. I bought some "baby back ribs" from them, and they were
rancid!

"13Ruby" wrote in message
You were lucky. I bought some "baby back ribs" from them, and they were
rancid!

Lucky? I doubt it. Sam's sell millions of pounds of meat every year. You
may have gotten one that did not seal properly at the factory or had some
other problem, but to say that someone was lucky because there was not
defective is a stretch.

"Dimitri" wrote in message
t...
They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

I was walking by the meat counter and spotted some pork ribs marked "pork
ribs brisket bone removed". I've never seen that before so I walked to
girl standing there "chatting" with what I assume was a girlfriend. I
waited for several minutes and finally interrupted her chatter and said
"Excuse me I have a question" Now she worked in the meat department and I
said " I have never seen this statement before are these similar to a
Saint Louis cut?" She answered "I don't know but let me get the butcher
for you." she stuck her head into the meat department and yelled for
"Miguel" I think. Miguel came out and I asked the same question. He
looked as if I had asked him to recite the declaration of independence in
Swahili - He mumbled something almost intelligible in a Mexican accent
one could cut with a knife.

STOP right here! I lived in Mexico for several years and I have no
problem with Mexican people at all.

I opted to purchase the package anyway and they smoked up very well and
were a decent value. I will probably purchase them again.

But Damn I would like to be able to communicate with people in the
language of my country.

Rant Over.

Dimitri
This is not to dispute what you say or to lessen what you say in any sense.
I'm putting in a good word for a Whole Foods I've shopped at in the meat
department. There is a fellow there, who might be from some Mexican or
South American country. He is knowledgeable, and thorough in his
explanation. I can understand him. If I can't understand what he is trying
to communicate, he keeps at it until I do understand. When I don't
understand it's not because of any language barrier. He will bring out a
piece of meat, show me how it's cut, etc. Whether this fellow was born in
the country or not, I don't know. But he's a credit to Whole Foods. Where
they get guys of this caliber in today's world, I do not know!

Sometimes it's hard to communicate with ones that have been born here, too.

Example: A week or so ago I went to buy glasses and frames - you can
probably figure the cost -- trifocals and frames -- not a small amount. I
spent a half-hour looking at frames. The young girl probably spoke no more
than 5 sentences to me, but laid out the frames for me to look at as I told
her my desires. DH was doing the same for himself. We left -- Time
passed and we got the mustard up enough to give it a go again. The big
bosses were there! Different story. We were there no more than 25 minutes
for the both of us -- chose our glasses, paid our money; I spent twice as
much as I normally do, am happy as can be -- it was all a matter of
communication. As we were leaving we saw the young girl entering the room.
It was a matter of timing that we missed her. I wouldn't mention this to
the bosses -- looked too much like a daughter of one of them to take that
chance -- we've been going there for years.

Dee Dee

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:23:23 GMT, John in Detroit
wrote:

Anyway, back to Thanks in part to thefracturing of Americia, I find
folks who come over the boarder today are not as interested in learning
the new toung... Many of them make no effort to learn english at all

The above is evidence that it ain't just immigrants who don't seem
interested in learning English.

NB for John in Detroit:
'boarder' is one who rents a room, or who gets on a train/plane.
'border' is the separator between nations.
'toung' is not a word. At least not in English.
'tongue' is the large taste organ in the mouth, whose name is often
used synonymously with 'language.'

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:22:36 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"13Ruby" wrote in message
You were lucky. I bought some "baby back ribs" from them, and they were
rancid!

Lucky? I doubt it. Sam's sell millions of pounds of meat every year. You
may have gotten one that did not seal properly at the factory or had some
other problem, but to say that someone was lucky because there was not
defective is a stretch.

Yup. I've bought a fair bit of meat from Wal-Mart and no problems
with any of it. I likely bought some at Sam's years ago when I had a
membership--certainly I'd remember if I'd had any problems.

I doubt that there's any actual meat-cutting done at the
Sam's/Wal-Mart stores. Certainly everything at the Wal-Mart I go to
is in pre-sealed packages.

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

Dimitri wrote:
They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

AFAICT, you're not ranting about the ribs, you are ranting about the
guy who helped you. If you couldn't understand him, you needed to ask
him to speak again, and/or get someone to help you whom you could
understand. Maybe if you had done so, the guy could have learned his
job a little better and possibly learned how to use English properly.
IMO, immigrants don't deserve ridicule and scorn, they deserve
compassion and maybe a little help from time to time.

-L.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:21:25 GMT, lid wrote:

Denny Wheeler wrote:

snip

Yup. I've bought a fair bit of meat from Wal-Mart and no problems
with any of it. I likely bought some at Sam's years ago when I had a
membership--certainly I'd remember if I'd had any problems.

There is no way I would buy meat that is labeled "Enhanced with a
solution" as the WalMart beef is. Must be pretty bad to need to be
enhanced with some unknown solution.

I've not noticed that on their beef; the pork, yes. I have looked at
their packer-cut briskets, with an eye toward the smoker. Didn't see
anything on the packaging of them about the solution--but I'll look
next time I'm there. The pork is a brand that I've seen many places
(Farmland)--I've used a slab or two of those ribs. They were okay,
but I think the pork from my nearest grocery is better. None of their
pork is cryovac, that I've seen, and none of it is "enhanced". Good
prices on spareribs, butts, picnics, too. All of which make excellent
barbeque.

And do not try to ask anyone working there what it is.
Either they do not know or are not allowed to tell.

I wouldn't expect 'em to know. But the information should be
available, and if it isn't, they're likely violating some FDA reg.

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

wrote in message
...
snip.

Example: A week or so ago I went to buy glasses and frames - you can
probably figure the cost -- trifocals and frames -- not a small amount. I
spent a half-hour looking at frames. The young girl probably spoke no
more
than 5 sentences to me, but laid out the frames for me to look at as I
told
her my desires. DH was doing the same for himself. We left -- Time

A few weeks ago we drove to the Mexican border (35 miles) walked over
to the eye glass store. Young lady spoke good English. Showed me the
frames in the style I wanted and I picked out the one I liked.
Titanium frame, tri-focal, glass lens, and Photo Gray. Total cost
$135 American.

In 1993 in the border town across from Yuma, AZ we stopped in to look at
glasses and frames in a place that was recommended and when DH used the
toilet, he walked thru their lab which was full of cinder blocks, piles of
sand and bricks, and the lab technician was a girl about 16 (so she looked)
dressed like she was heading out for the evening, with punk rock style and
smoking a fag. She was making the glasses. Maybe grinding lenses is not
rocket science. Tourists seemed to love their glasses.
Dee Dee

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...

snip

In case you're still wondering, the brisket bone is the same as
the chine bone - they're basically the same bone, but the removal
of that bone alone doesn't make them St Louis style ribs, as that
usually involves removing the skirt and trimming the flaps.

mumble Damn gringos mumble

-sw

Actually when I opened the package I understood the racks were the full rib
without the skirt remove as would be the case with the Saint Louis cut. I could
have trimmed the skirt as well and saved it for Pasta sauce which I will do the
next time. I used the side firebox smoker and a modified Memphis rub I was
pleased with the cut and results in the end.

Personally I prefer the Saint Louis cut over all others.

Dimitri

"-L." wrote in message
oups.com...

Dimitri wrote:
They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

AFAICT, you're not ranting about the ribs, you are ranting about the
guy who helped you. If you couldn't understand him, you needed to ask
him to speak again, and/or get someone to help you whom you could
understand. Maybe if you had done so, the guy could have learned his
job a little better and possibly learned how to use English properly.
IMO, immigrants don't deserve ridicule and scorn, they deserve
compassion and maybe a little help from time to time.

-L.


You are correct - however as far as I could tell, there was no one else who
seemed to understand - For any Meat Cutter would instantly know the designation

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide/belly3820.html

My problem is that he had no knowledge of the job. That's like asking a baker
if this Danish was made with yeast.

Just why is it my "compassionate duty" to be his teacher. There are too many
people who choose NOT to learn the language of their host country. If you doubt
what I am saying you can go to Alhambra and it you can't read Chinese characters
you're out of luck or East LA for Spanish, or Westminster for Vietnamese. Some
times there is NO desire at all.

When I do to Tres Sierras (local Mexican Market) they look at my purchases and
automatically start speaking Spanish to me. See there is discrimination on
their side as well. There is no way a Gringo would buy that stuff.

And BTW I am fluent in Spanish I just had no desire to accommodate the
gentleman. It's his problem and not mine.

Dimitri (once again ending a rant)

Dimitri wrote:

"-L." wrote in message
oups.com...

Dimitri wrote:

They opened a new Sam's Club in my area.

AFAICT, you're not ranting about the ribs, you are ranting about the
guy who helped you. If you couldn't understand him, you needed to ask
him to speak again, and/or get someone to help you whom you could
understand. Maybe if you had done so, the guy could have learned his
job a little better and possibly learned how to use English properly.
IMO, immigrants don't deserve ridicule and scorn, they deserve
compassion and maybe a little help from time to time.

-L.



You are correct - however as far as I could tell, there was no one else who
seemed to understand - For any Meat Cutter would instantly know the designation

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide/belly3820.html

My problem is that he had no knowledge of the job. That's like asking a baker
if this Danish was made with yeast.

Just why is it my "compassionate duty" to be his teacher. There are too many
people who choose NOT to learn the language of their host country. If you doubt
what I am saying you can go to Alhambra and it you can't read Chinese characters
you're out of luck or East LA for Spanish, or Westminster for Vietnamese. Some
times there is NO desire at all.

When I do to Tres Sierras (local Mexican Market) they look at my purchases and
automatically start speaking Spanish to me. See there is discrimination on
their side as well. There is no way a Gringo would buy that stuff.

And BTW I am fluent in Spanish I just had no desire to accommodate the
gentleman. It's his problem and not mine.

Dimitri (once again ending a rant)



You're a real prince, Dimitri. You had a chance to be a decent human
being and you passed it up. Congrats.

Peter