Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

snip

So he paid for his own sins.

No. The LORD paid for ours:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

Paid a price to himself. Foolishness.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

Weird.

"A fool's talk brings a rod to his back, but the lips of the wise
protect them." (Proverbs 14:3)

I wouldn't call your a wise man. Anyone who believes that all babies are
born sinners is in the gaul of bitterness.

The sins of babies (or others) will not be viable excuses for your own
sins, dear Pramesh whom I love.

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

To whom did god have to pay
the price to get permission to save anyone?

The LORD remains absolutely sovereign.

How mythological!

The LORD is not a myth.

I suppose you believe in the Santa too?

No.

His omnipotents is limited by
his masochism.

The LORD remains almighty.

How mythological!

The LORD is not a myth.

I suppose you believe in the Santa too?

No.

Paganistic-trinitarian-polythistic tripe.

The LORD is the truth.

How mythological!

The LORD is not a myth.

I suppose you believe in the Santa too?

No.

The christ myth is more an semblance of the potential in man (Ps.
82:6,John 10:34, 2 Cor. 3:18)

In your opinion.

Well, the typical position that christians take that men are reprobate
and born in sin from the second of birth and if they die then they go
to hell is certainly less than uplifting.

The LORD's salvation is available for all who choose to receive it.
Only those with evil in their hearts find this message less than
uplifting.

Sorry evil one, you can follow your god of torture.

"The LORD works out everything for His own ends -- even the wicked for a
day of disaster." (Proverbs 16:4)

Your God love a calamity and the inquisition was only a small taste of his
sadism.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

A very few christians look at men as
"children" of God with all the potential that that entails, an
uplifting proposition.

Those who are ignorant of salvation by faith have not been saved.

You god has extreem limits - a truly petty beast.

"The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways, and the good man
reward for his." (Proverbs 14:14)

So you're a saved by works guy. Fickle.

No. The LORD saved me through my faith in Him.

I repeat my position which is much more uplifting than yours - The
christ myth is more an semblance of the potential in man (Ps.82:6,John
10:34, 2 Cor. 3:18)

It remains my choice to side with the truth that is LORD Jesus Christ.

Matt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew. you: depart.
from me, ye that work iniquity.

And so it remains my choice to continue writing truthfully so that the
LORD will continue to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.

TIM 3
1 THIS know also, that in the alast. days perilous btimes. shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, acovetous, boasters, bproud,
blasphemers, cdisobedient to parents, dunthankful, unholy,
3 Without anatural. baffection, ctrucebreakers, dfalse. accusers,
eincontinent., fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 aTraitors, bheady., chighminded., lovers of dpleasures more than lovers of
God;
5 Having a aform. of godliness, but bdenying the power thereof: from such
turn away.

All praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength :-))

- the gnostics are more on the mark while christians
completely miss the mark, especially the fundamentalist type.

More opinion.

Hail to the Sun God,
O what a fun God,
Ra Ra Ra.

"They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars
of the heavens, which they have loved and served and which they
have followed
and consulted and worshiped. They will not be gathered up or
buried
but will be like refuse lying on the ground. Wherever I banish
them, all the survivors of this evil nation will prefer death to
life," declares the LORD almighty.

Amen.

Ahhhh rightttt, the bloodthirsty joy of the christian
fundamentalist. (Matt 7:2)

They are the Words of the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind and strength :-)

Well, you can worship the author of Evil if you want

The LORD is not the author of evil.

Have you forgotten Isaiah so easily?

No.

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster (Isaiah 45:7). However, it remains my choice to take the
LORD's advice from Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially
Him.

Then He is the author of Evil

That is not what I discern.

and you love him for it.

My love for Him remains unconditional.

and thank him for
damning babies that die shortly after birth for their lack of faith in
christ.

Referring to children...

"The kingdom of GOD belongs to such as these. Do not keep the children
from Me." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Yet you say that they have to exercise "faith" in your mythological god,
are born in sin before they know good from evil, and are damned before
they
learn to understand language and the concept of faith. What a petty baby
hating god you adore.

The LORD loves sinners. The LORD's kingdom has been built for sinners
who choose to be His children.

The Lord apparently only creates sinners - he can do no better.

Sin is a product of free will. A person with free will is an infinitely
better creation than a person without.

The word
"sinner" only shouts out the weakness of your god's creative powers.

Perhaps to the undiscerning.

Yes, child sacrafice is still a functional component of
traditional christanity.

Actually, it is not nor ever was.

Worship your God of Evil if you must.

The LORD is kind, just and right. The evil resides in the hearts of
those who have rejected Him.

You forgot Isaiah again were god admits to being the author of Evil.

No.

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster (Isaiah 45:7). But, it remains my choice to take the LORD's
advice from Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially Him.

And He's still the creator of Evil.

That is not what I discern.

I am right
on target noting the bloodthirsty joy of the christian fundamentalist.

Righteousness is not bloodthirsty.

While explains why you christians have killed so often in the name of
your mythological god and still proclaim your righteousness.

"Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is
kept safe." (Proverbs 29:25)

GO tell that to Job and his Wife and Children.

They remain safe with the LORD. There is no danger in being tested by
the LORD.

Yes, that's the evil, mean, bloodthirsty ******* biblical god I
recall reading about - a heinous god that blames his own creations
for the errors and failures in of His own creative capabilities -
truly a flaccid and
impotent god. At least Isaiah makes it clear that God creates
evil. (Isa. 45: 7)

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create
disaster, I, the LORD, do all these things."

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster. However, it remains my choice to take the LORD's advice from
Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially Him.

Yes, He is the creator of Evil.

That is not what I discern.

The LORD remains kind, just and right:

And the author of Evil

It is evil that begets evil and not the LORD.

You are calling you god, the author of Isaiah, a liar.

False witness.

From Proverbs 19:9

"A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will
perish."

Then you should stop being a liar

More false witness.

and admit you love a god that creates
evil,

The LORD remains kind, just, and right. He has my unconditional love.

that evil would not exist if your God did not exist,

Nothing would exist if the LORD did not exist.

that your God is
the first and only cause of all Evil.

The LORD remains kind, just and right. Evil arises from the free will
of those who are not kind, just and right.

From Isaiah 45:7

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create
disaster, I, the LORD, do all these things."

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster. However, it remains my choice to take the LORD's advice from
Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially Him.

Evil God.

In your judgment.

In truth, the LORD remains kind, just, and right.

and it's first cause and the one who could prevent
Evil if he wanted too but chooses that Evil exist because it Pleases
Him.

Those who judge the LORD will be judged by the same measure.

Matt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew. you: depart.
from me, ye that work iniquity.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully thereby glorifying
the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-))

Cocky to the end aren't you!

From Isaiah 65:13-25

Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says:

"My servants will eat, but you will go hungry; My servants will drink,
but you will go thirsty; My servants will rejoice, but you will be put
to shame. My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but you
will cry out from anguish of heart and wail in brokenness of spirit. You
will leave your name to My chosen ones as a curse; the Sovereign LORD
will put you to death, but to His servants He will give another name.
Whoever invokes a blessing in the land will do so by the GOD of truth;
he who takes an oath in the land will swear by the GOD of truth. For the
past troubles will be forgotten and hidden from My eyes. Behold, I will
create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be
remembered, nor will they come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create, for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and
its people a joy. I will rejoice over Jerusalem and take delight in My
people; the sound of weeping and of crying will be heard in it no more.
Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or
an old man who does not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be
considered accursed. They will build houses and dwell in them; they will
plant vineyards and eat their fruit. No longer will they build houses
and others live in them, or plant and others eat. For as the days of a
tree, so will be the days of my people; my chosen ones will long enjoy
the works of their hands. They will not toil in vain or bear children
doomed to misfortune; for they will be a people blessed by the LORD,
they and their descendants with them. Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear. The wolf and the lamb will
feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be
the serpent's food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy
mountain," says the LORD.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:27:14 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

snip

So he paid for his own sins.

No. The LORD paid for ours:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

Paid a price to himself. Foolishness.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

In your dreams, moron - certainly not in three of the four newsgroups
you're spamming.

"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:27:14 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

snip

So he paid for his own sins.

No. The LORD paid for ours:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

Paid a price to himself. Foolishness.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

In your dreams, moron

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.

- certainly not in three of the four newsgroups
you're spamming.

In truth, follow-ups to posts are not spam.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

snip

So he paid for his own sins.

No. The LORD paid for ours:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

Paid a price to himself. Foolishness.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

Weird.

"A fool's talk brings a rod to his back, but the lips of the wise
protect them." (Proverbs 14:3)

I wouldn't call your a wise man. Anyone who believes that all babies are
born sinners is in the gaul of bitterness.

The sins of babies (or others) will not be viable excuses for your own
sins, dear Pramesh whom I love.

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

To whom did god have to pay
the price to get permission to save anyone?

The LORD remains absolutely sovereign.

How mythological!

The LORD is not a myth.

I suppose you believe in the Santa too?

No.

His omnipotents is limited by
his masochism.

The LORD remains almighty.

How mythological!

The LORD is not a myth.

I suppose you believe in the Santa too?

No.

Paganistic-trinitarian-polythistic tripe.

The LORD is the truth.

How mythological!

The LORD is not a myth.

I suppose you believe in the Santa too?

No.

The christ myth is more an semblance of the potential in man
(Ps.
82:6,John 10:34, 2 Cor. 3:18)

In your opinion.

Well, the typical position that christians take that men are
reprobate
and born in sin from the second of birth and if they die then they
go
to hell is certainly less than uplifting.

The LORD's salvation is available for all who choose to receive it.
Only those with evil in their hearts find this message less than
uplifting.

Sorry evil one, you can follow your god of torture.

"The LORD works out everything for His own ends -- even the wicked for
a
day of disaster." (Proverbs 16:4)

Your God love a calamity and the inquisition was only a small taste of
his
sadism.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

A very few christians look at men as
"children" of God with all the potential that that entails, an
uplifting proposition.

Those who are ignorant of salvation by faith have not been saved.

You god has extreem limits - a truly petty beast.

"The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways, and the good man
reward for his." (Proverbs 14:14)

So you're a saved by works guy. Fickle.

No. The LORD saved me through my faith in Him.

I repeat my position which is much more uplifting than yours - The
christ myth is more an semblance of the potential in man
(Ps.82:6,John
10:34, 2 Cor. 3:18)

It remains my choice to side with the truth that is LORD Jesus
Christ.

Matt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew. you:
depart.
from me, ye that work iniquity.

And so it remains my choice to continue writing truthfully so that the
LORD will continue to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.

TIM 3
1 THIS know also, that in the alast. days perilous btimes. shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, acovetous, boasters,
bproud,
blasphemers, cdisobedient to parents, dunthankful, unholy,
3 Without anatural. baffection, ctrucebreakers, dfalse. accusers,
eincontinent., fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 aTraitors, bheady., chighminded., lovers of dpleasures more than lovers
of
God;
5 Having a aform. of godliness, but bdenying the power thereof: from such
turn away.

All praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength :-))

- the gnostics are more on the mark while christians
completely miss the mark, especially the fundamentalist type.

More opinion.

Hail to the Sun God,
O what a fun God,
Ra Ra Ra.

"They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the
stars
of the heavens, which they have loved and served and which
they
have followed
and consulted and worshiped. They will not be gathered up or
buried
but will be like refuse lying on the ground. Wherever I
banish
them, all the survivors of this evil nation will prefer death
to
life," declares the LORD almighty.

Amen.

Ahhhh rightttt, the bloodthirsty joy of the christian
fundamentalist. (Matt 7:2)

They are the Words of the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul,
mind and strength :-)

Well, you can worship the author of Evil if you want

The LORD is not the author of evil.

Have you forgotten Isaiah so easily?

No.

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster (Isaiah 45:7). However, it remains my choice to take the
LORD's advice from Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially
Him.

Then He is the author of Evil

That is not what I discern.

and you love him for it.

My love for Him remains unconditional.

and thank him for
damning babies that die shortly after birth for their lack of faith
in
christ.

Referring to children...

"The kingdom of GOD belongs to such as these. Do not keep the
children
from Me." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Yet you say that they have to exercise "faith" in your mythological
god,
are born in sin before they know good from evil, and are damned before
they
learn to understand language and the concept of faith. What a petty
baby
hating god you adore.

The LORD loves sinners. The LORD's kingdom has been built for sinners
who choose to be His children.

The Lord apparently only creates sinners - he can do no better.

Sin is a product of free will. A person with free will is an infinitely
better creation than a person without.

The word
"sinner" only shouts out the weakness of your god's creative powers.

Perhaps to the undiscerning.

Yes, child sacrafice is still a functional component of
traditional christanity.

Actually, it is not nor ever was.

Worship your God of Evil if you must.

The LORD is kind, just and right. The evil resides in the hearts of
those who have rejected Him.

You forgot Isaiah again were god admits to being the author of Evil.

No.

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster (Isaiah 45:7). But, it remains my choice to take the LORD's
advice from Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially Him.

And He's still the creator of Evil.

That is not what I discern.

I am right
on target noting the bloodthirsty joy of the christian
fundamentalist.

Righteousness is not bloodthirsty.

While explains why you christians have killed so often in the name of
your mythological god and still proclaim your righteousness.

"Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD
is
kept safe." (Proverbs 29:25)

GO tell that to Job and his Wife and Children.

They remain safe with the LORD. There is no danger in being tested by
the LORD.

Yes, that's the evil, mean, bloodthirsty ******* biblical god I
recall reading about - a heinous god that blames his own
creations
for the errors and failures in of His own creative
capabilities -
truly a flaccid and
impotent god. At least Isaiah makes it clear that God creates
evil. (Isa. 45: 7)

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create
disaster, I, the LORD, do all these things."

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster. However, it remains my choice to take the LORD's advice from
Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially Him.

Yes, He is the creator of Evil.

That is not what I discern.

The LORD remains kind, just and right:

And the author of Evil

It is evil that begets evil and not the LORD.

You are calling you god, the author of Isaiah, a liar.

False witness.

From Proverbs 19:9

"A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will
perish."

Then you should stop being a liar

More false witness.

and admit you love a god that creates
evil,

The LORD remains kind, just, and right. He has my unconditional love.

that evil would not exist if your God did not exist,

Nothing would exist if the LORD did not exist.

that your God is
the first and only cause of all Evil.

The LORD remains kind, just and right. Evil arises from the free will
of those who are not kind, just and right.

From Isaiah 45:7

"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create
disaster, I, the LORD, do all these things."

You may certainly choose to judge the LORD to be evil for creating
disaster. However, it remains my choice to take the LORD's advice from
Matthew 7 and refrain from judging others especially Him.

Evil God.

In your judgment.

In truth, the LORD remains kind, just, and right.

and it's first cause and the one who could prevent
Evil if he wanted too but chooses that Evil exist because it
Pleases
Him.

Those who judge the LORD will be judged by the same measure.

Matt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew. you:
depart.
from me, ye that work iniquity.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully thereby glorifying
the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-))

Cocky to the end aren't you!

From Isaiah 65:13-25

Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says:

"My servants will eat, but you will go hungry; My servants will drink,
but you will go thirsty; My servants will rejoice, but you will be put
to shame. My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but you
will cry out from anguish of heart and wail in brokenness of spirit. You
will leave your name to My chosen ones as a curse; the Sovereign LORD
will put you to death, but to His servants He will give another name.
Whoever invokes a blessing in the land will do so by the GOD of truth;
he who takes an oath in the land will swear by the GOD of truth. For the
past troubles will be forgotten and hidden from My eyes. Behold, I will
create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be
remembered, nor will they come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create, for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and
its people a joy. I will rejoice over Jerusalem and take delight in My
people; the sound of weeping and of crying will be heard in it no more.
Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or
an old man who does not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be
considered accursed. They will build houses and dwell in them; they will
plant vineyards and eat their fruit. No longer will they build houses
and others live in them, or plant and others eat. For as the days of a
tree, so will be the days of my people; my chosen ones will long enjoy
the works of their hands. They will not toil in vain or bear children
doomed to misfortune; for they will be a people blessed by the LORD,
they and their descendants with them. Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear. The wolf and the lamb will
feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be
the serpent's food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy
mountain," says the LORD.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:27:14 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Pramesh Rutajit wrote:

snip

So he paid for his own sins.

No. The LORD paid for ours:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

Paid a price to himself. Foolishness.

The LORD remains kind, just, and right.

In your dreams, moron

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.

- certainly not in three of the four newsgroups
you're spamming.

In truth, follow-ups to posts are not spam.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk