I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Ken wrote:
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me
from getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a
fairly cool Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it
passed the smell test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat
is good/bad.

Whatcha do, get drunk and forget about it? (teasing) How cool an evening?
If it passed the smell test it's probably okay but cook it immediately.

Jill

In article zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51,
says...
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.



The food safety gods say no more than two hours in the danger zone -
between 40 - 120F. I've left cooked meat out (inadvertently) for that
length of time with no resulting problems, but I'm not sure I'd risk it
with raw pre-ground beef.
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"Ken" wrote in message
news:zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51...
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly
cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Pitch it. Ground meat is the most likely type of meat to be contaminated.
A week in the hospital hoping for a quick death is far more costly than a
package of ground beef.

One dark day on Usenet, "Ken" said:

I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Given that the tempurature was in the mid-50's last night (I'm not
far from Seattle myself), I'd throw it away...


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In article ,
"Vox Humana" wrote:

"Ken" wrote in message
news:zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51...
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly
cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Pitch it. Ground meat is the most likely type of meat to be contaminated.
A week in the hospital hoping for a quick death is far more costly than a
package of ground beef.



Excellent point. ;-)
It's a point I keep having to tell my dad when I want to pitch old food
to the chickens...

I've finally convinced him that it's cheaper to replace the food than
deal with the hospital bill!

My chickens love raw ground beef. I've given them stuff out of the
freezer that was freezer burned. :-)

K.

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If it don't stink, eat it.

The smell & wiggle test is fine for me: If it doesn't smell bad, & I can't
see anything wiggling in it without the aide of my glasses, then it's safe
to eat.

I spent a year in Thailand eating food off the street & form markets that
had unrefrigerated beef, chicken & fish. The food never bothered
me...never had a stomach ache. Of course, I spent a month in the hospital
with hepatitis, but that's another story.

at Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:08:31 GMT in zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51,
(Ken) wrote :

I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly
cool Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the
smell test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

The Seattle temperature last night wasn't nearly cool enough IMHO to be
safe. I had the windows open at home and it was comfortable in the house in
my shirt sleeves. Not a good sign. If it had been a big hunk of beef, I
might have considered aggressive trimming and using it. But because it was
ground, I wouldn't risk it. Especially not if it was ordinary commercial
ground beef (as opposed to organic, or naturally raised, etc.). Such ground
beef goes through conditions that present additional hazards, and I'd have
very deep misgivings about what might have been lurking in there already
that 12 hours at warm temperatures would have given time to develop. Toss
it.


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"Ken"

I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

I'd not have bought that fercocktah mystery meat in the first place... perhaps
sitting out fermenting is an improvement.


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I work in a meat department..trust me..throw it away...meat needs to be kept
at a certain temp. if it is outside that temperature for more than 2 hours
it is considered bad.
"Ken" wrote in message
news:zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51...
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly
cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Whatcha do, get drunk and forget about it?

:: Nodding sheepishly ::

Thanks all for your opinions. Chucking it.


"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Ken wrote:
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me
from getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a
fairly cool Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it
passed the smell test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat
is good/bad.

Whatcha do, get drunk and forget about it? (teasing) How cool an evening?
If it passed the smell test it's probably okay but cook it immediately.

Jill

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:26:23 -0500, Katra
wrote:

In article ,
"Vox Humana" wrote:

"Ken" wrote in message
news:zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51...
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a fairly
cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Pitch it. Ground meat is the most likely type of meat to be contaminated.
A week in the hospital hoping for a quick death is far more costly than a
package of ground beef.


Excellent point. ;-)
It's a point I keep having to tell my dad when I want to pitch old food
to the chickens...

IMO: if you didn't eat it by this time, toss it - but a
truly cool Seattle night would be cool enough for meat...
Worst case scenerio - it'll clean out your system, but won't
kill you (if you're healthy to begin with).




Practice safe eating - always use condiments

In article GSmFc.7884$151.2064@fed1read02,
"Jimmy G" wrote:

If it don't stink, eat it.

The smell & wiggle test is fine for me: If it doesn't smell bad, & I can't
see anything wiggling in it without the aide of my glasses, then it's safe
to eat.

Bad advice. Massive E. coli contamination doesn't make meat smell bad.

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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:26:23 -0500, Katra
wrote:

In article ,
"Vox Humana" wrote:

"Ken" wrote in message
news:zwhFc.15353$7t3.2343@attbi_s51...
I purchased a pack of ground beef at the grocery store, packed in
the
standard styrofoam/shrink wrap package. Circumstances prevented me
from
getting the beef into my refrigerator for 12 hours - it spent a
fairly
cool
Seattle evening in my car last night. This morning, it passed the
smell
test. I'd appreciate some opinions on if the meat is good/bad.

Pitch it. Ground meat is the most likely type of meat to be
contaminated.
A week in the hospital hoping for a quick death is far more costly
than a
package of ground beef.


Excellent point. ;-)
It's a point I keep having to tell my dad when I want to pitch old food
to the chickens...

IMO: if you didn't eat it by this time, toss it - but a
truly cool Seattle night would be cool enough for meat...
Worst case scenerio - it'll clean out your system, but won't
kill you (if you're healthy to begin with).

Who wants to be sick for several days over $2 worth of meat?

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 22:26:12 GMT, "Vox Humana"
wrote:

Who wants to be sick for several days over $2 worth of meat?

So, why the OP if it's such a no brainer?


Practice safe eating - always use condiments