A Food and drink forum. FoodBanter.com

Welcome to FoodBanter.com forums which provide access to the finest food and drink related newsgroups.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most newsgroup discussions and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics to the food related newsgroups, communicate privately with other FoodBanter.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.

Go Back   Home » FoodBanter.com forum » Food and Cooking » General Cooking
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

General Cooking (rec.food.cooking) For general food and cooking discussion. Foods of all kinds, food procurement, cooking methods and techniques, eating, etc.

Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 09:56 AM
Nancree
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

Michel Boucher, , outspoken and often mistaken critic of
American government is deeply (to say the least ) interested in Marxism. Check
his posts under "michel boucher " in the Search box for :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...&q=rec.food.co
oking&btnG=Search.

There are such titles as "Why Make Profit An Objective".
"Cuba, Communism's Great Success"
"Why Marxism"
"Dangerous 'World of International Capitlism".
-----=======
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government, and naturally,
Ronald Reagan. Keep it in mind when he totally twists the facts, such as
ranting that Reagan was responsible for keeping the hostages in Iran, when, in
fact, he was the one who was responsible for their release on his first day in
office. Well, Michel, was that an honest mistake, or a clever Marxian twist?

Nancree
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 12:51 PM
Mr. Wizard
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism


"Nancree" wrote in message
...
Michel Boucher, , outspoken and often mistaken critic

of
American government is deeply (to say the least ) interested in Marxism.

Check
his posts under "michel boucher " in the Search box for :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...&q=rec.food.co
oking&btnG=Search.

There are such titles as "Why Make Profit An Objective".
"Cuba, Communism's Great Success"
"Why Marxism"
"Dangerous 'World of International Capitlism".
-----=======
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government, and

naturally,
Ronald Reagan. Keep it in mind when he totally twists the facts, such as
ranting that Reagan was responsible for keeping the hostages in Iran,

when, in
fact, he was the one who was responsible for their release on his first

day in
office. Well, Michel, was that an honest mistake, or a clever Marxian

twist?

Nancree

I think most folks on the Usenet have MB killfiled Nan.
Don't let his ilk get under your skin.


  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 01:56 PM
Michel Boucher
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

onono (Nancree) wrote in
:

Michel Boucher,
, outspoken and often
mistaken critic of American government is deeply (to say the least
) interested in Marxism. Check his posts under "michel boucher "
in the Search box for :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...O-8859-1&q=rec.
food.co
oking&btnG=Search.

There are such titles as "Why Make Profit An Objective".
"Cuba, Communism's Great Success"
"Why Marxism"
"Dangerous 'World of International Capitlism".
-----=======
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government,
and naturally, Ronald Reagan. Keep it in mind when he totally
twists the facts, such as ranting that Reagan was responsible for
keeping the hostages in Iran, when, in fact, he was the one who
was responsible for their release on his first day in office.
Well, Michel, was that an honest mistake, or a clever Marxian
twist?


Actually it was a mistake, but only in the timing part of it. I
maintained that the accusation was about the hostage situation and
until the original poster corrects me, I'll maintain I'm correct but
not right, if you get my drift.

You, on the other hand, need to get a sense of humour.

--

Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?

Gimli, son of Gloín
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 02:09 PM
Rona Yuthasastrakosol
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism


"Nancree" wrote in message
...
Michel Boucher, , outspoken and often mistaken critic

of
American government is deeply (to say the least ) interested in Marxism.

Check
his posts under "michel boucher " in the Search box for :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...&q=rec.food.co
oking&btnG=Search.

snip

WTF? Why bring up someone's posts from another newsgroup unless you have
nothing substantial to say? You must have very limited skills (and perhaps
intelligence) if you have to resort to searching for "damning" information
elsewhere. And what are you going to dig up on others who have blasted
Reagan and the American government (Michel is not the only one who has done
so)? Childhood stories? Did someone pee his pants when he was 10?

Grow up already.

rona


  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 02:10 PM
Curly Sue
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

On 08 Jun 2004 08:56:52 GMT, onono (Nancree) wrote:

Michel Boucher,
, outspoken and often mistaken critic of
American government is deeply (to say the least ) interested in Marxism. Check
his posts under "michel boucher " in the Search box for :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...&q=rec.food.co
oking&btnG=Search.

There are such titles as "Why Make Profit An Objective".
"Cuba, Communism's Great Success"
"Why Marxism"
"Dangerous 'World of International Capitlism".
-----=======
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government, and naturally,
Ronald Reagan. Keep it in mind when he totally twists the facts, such as
ranting that Reagan was responsible for keeping the hostages in Iran, when, in
fact, he was the one who was responsible for their release on his first day in
office. Well, Michel, was that an honest mistake, or a clever Marxian twist?

Nancree


Most of us know Michel's opinions on the US, English, and other topics
and applaud his finding a new audience in a topical newsgroup. He's
happy, we're happy, and so forth. Please don't undermine his efforts
by bringing the discussion to rfc. : Another option, as mentioned
by someone else, is to not read his non-cooking posts, whether you
killfile him or just ignore them.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 02:50 PM
Curly Sue
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:09:00 +0900, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"
wrote:


"Nancree" wrote in message
...
Michel Boucher, , outspoken and often mistaken critic

of
American government is deeply (to say the least ) interested in Marxism.

Check
his posts under "michel boucher " in the Search box for :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...&q=rec.food.co
oking&btnG=Search.

snip

WTF? Why bring up someone's posts from another newsgroup unless you have
nothing substantial to say? You must have very limited skills (and perhaps
intelligence) if you have to resort to searching for "damning" information
elsewhere. And what are you going to dig up on others who have blasted
Reagan and the American government (Michel is not the only one who has done
so)? Childhood stories? Did someone pee his pants when he was 10?

Grow up already.

rona


Whereas I wish she hadn't have done that (start a new topic here with
his name in the subject line and bring a discussion from another
newsgroup here), I think one has to view it in the context of Michel's
relentless anti-American badgering on rfc over the years. It's sort
of like a neighbor I had years ago, who was very loud and not so
bright. She liked her steak well-done. Every time someone mentioned
"steak" she went into her canned speech about how she wanted HER steak
well-done, she didn't want the cow to moo when she cut the steak, blah
blah blah... On cue, whenever steak was served ("how do you want your
steak?") we knew she'd start the same idiot and boring dissertation;
people's eyes would glaze over as she blathered on (of course, she did
the same for other topics). Being loud, stupid, and incessant didn't
make her right; it just set some people daydreaming about various
(violent) ways to stop her.

Anyway, that's what Michel is like and it's not surprizing that
someone snapped. Plus, he is a ceaseless source of misinformation
that he pulls out of his hat to bolster his points. When caught, he
offers a lame excuse along the lines of he was right in spirit if not
facts. Debating with him is useless because he draws from a grab bag
of fact and fantasy which he uses to wear down his opponent. It costs
him nothing to make up something and throw it out as fact; but the
others then have to know or do research to refute the point. Soon
enough this gets irritating or boring to the second party and they
wander off. The bottom line is that his purpose is not to have an
intellectual debate on a topic, but to annoy people, especially
Americans. It's a great source of satisfaction to him, like an
addiction.

I didn't write the above to chastise Michel, but I think you were too
harsh on one of his victims who snapped.

I wish we didn't discuss politics and religion on rfc, but that's
never going to change.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 06:21 PM
Yeff
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

On 8 Jun 2004 07:05:08 -0700, Greg Zywicki wrote:

If you need some salve, check out a Weblog like Lilek's


Bill Whittle. His latest ("Strength" - long though it is) should be
required reading for all Americans: http://www.ejectejecteject.com/

--

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2004, 10:54 PM
Michel Boucher
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

(Curly Sue) wrote in
:

Anyway, that's what Michel is like and it's not surprizing that
someone snapped.


Actually, that's not at all what I'm like but you seem to be
fascinated by me so I'll let it pass as long as you promise to get
help...and soon from what I read below.

Plus, he is a ceaseless source of misinformation
that he pulls out of his hat to bolster his points. When caught,
he offers a lame excuse along the lines of he was right in spirit
if not facts.


Actually, it happened once. You can't say it's a rule. I am
prepared to admit when I am wrong and I always do so with good grace
but I insist on at least being correct when I am correct. Sue me.
Is this what you mean by an anti-USAian trait?

The bottom line is that
his purpose is not to have an intellectual debate on a topic, but
to annoy people, especially Americans. It's a great source of
satisfaction to him, like an addiction.


Actually I find it tedious, but suit yourself. And you Curly, find
it necessary to be the buttinsky every time someone gets their
knickers in a twist. Many others, USAIans included, have voiced
similar opinions to mine about the "quality" of care under Reagan.
You are obviously deaf to their entreaties but mine, for some reason,
you find fascinationg...again, seek help.

I didn't write the above to chastise Michel, but I think you were
too harsh on one of his victims who snapped.


Ok, but your assumption is wrong. She was not a victim and I never
victimize people. They are free to retort intelligently but the
problem is that too many confuse their emotions regarding
flag'mom'naplepah with intellectual debate just as you are doing now.

I wish we didn't discuss politics and religion on rfc, but that's
never going to change.


I wish you would get over yourself, but that's not going to change
either. By the way, that was NOT an anti-US statement. I have made
no anti-US statements in this post. Do you think I'm cured? :-)

--

Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?

Gimli, son of Gloín
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2004, 12:14 AM
Blair P. Houghton
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

Nancree wrote:
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government,


It's a logical fallacy to assume that his "rants" about
the transgressions of the government are incorrect just
because he believes in a fallacious economic and political
philosophy.

The reason Marxism becomes the government is because
people know their government is totally screwed anyway,
and Marxism is just complicated enough that they can't
understand its flaws until it's tried.

The solution is to fix the government we have, because
when it's not being abused by liars and criminals (i.e.,
the real power of the Republican Party) it's the best form
of government people can create.

--Blair
"When you reply, keep the Fallacy of
the Excluded Middle in mind. I'm
tired of having to teach that lesson
over and over again."
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2004, 12:38 AM
Michel Boucher
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

Blair P. Houghton wrote in news:BLrxc.17079691$Id.2823525
@news.easynews.com:

Nancree wrote:
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government,


It's a logical fallacy to assume that his "rants" about
the transgressions of the government are incorrect just
because he believes in a fallacious economic and political
philosophy.


Hey, them's fightin' woids...:-) In fact, I do not support the
systemization by anyone or any country of Marx's ideas. But nobody
ever bothered to ask ME that, did they.

I am opposed to the existence of nations, governments ruled by narrow
ideologies and rallying round flags or place of "worship" to validate
one's own existence. As John Lennon put it succinctly:

Imagine there's no countries, It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for, No religion too...

Then I could have peace and quiet and spend my time cooking and
playing wargames ;-)

--

Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?

Gimli, son of Gloín
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2004, 12:57 AM
limey
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism


"Blair P. Houghton" wrote in message
Nancree wrote:
Just keep it in mind when he rants on about American Government,


Blair's treatise has been snipped so I can avoid repeating it. Blair,
please direct all your political ramblings to an appropriate political
newsgroup.
You're boring. Thank you.

Dora


  #15 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2004, 01:46 AM
Curly Sue
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Michel Boucher's posts on soc.politics.marxism

On 8 Jun 2004 21:54:34 GMT, Michel Boucher
wrote:

(Curly Sue) wrote in
:

Anyway, that's what Michel is like and it's not surprizing that
someone snapped.


Actually, that's not at all what I'm like but you seem to be
fascinated by me so I'll let it pass as long as you promise to get
help...and soon from what I read below.

I'm no more fascinated by you than I was by my former neighbor.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


fitness forum |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright ©2004-2008 FoodBanter.com, part of the NewsgroupBanter project.
The comments are property of their posters.
Electricity - eBay - Car Finance - Mortgages - Home Loan