Sheldon...could you post the name of that cookware vendor you recommended
not too long ago?

I'm currently working with a really old, beat up, no-name aluminum saute pan
that I've had since my college days. It doesn't perform all that well (the
bottom is warping, and the pan has always had hot spots).

So, I'm looking to upgrade to a decent saute pan. In addition, I'll
probably be adding a couple of sauce pans and a fry pan as well.

I'm looking at stainless steel, because I plan on going to an induction
system someday. All-Clad seems to be a popular favorite, and it is
certainly well-advertised. But I seem to recall you posting the name of
another vendor not too long ago that was really good...better-built than
All-Clad Stainless.

I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent messages from you
(within the past few weeks or months) on cookware. (Maybe I just didn't
look hard enough.) However, I found several that you had posted over a year
ago mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?

Thanks in advance for your help. I don't mind spending money on great
cookware, but I want really high-quality stuff for my money.

-Dennis Spexet,

>I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent messages from you
>(within the past few weeks or months) on cookware. (Maybe I just didn't
>look hard enough.) However, I found several that you had posted over a year
>ago mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help. I don't mind spending money on great
>cookware, but I want really high-quality stuff for my money.
>
>-Dennis Spexet

Search <piazza cookware>


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Dennis Spexet wrote:

> I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent messages from you
> (within the past few weeks or months) on cookware. (Maybe I just didn't
> look hard enough.) However, I found several that you had posted over a year
> ago mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?


Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to cost you more
than that All-Clad... Williams Sonoma is running an incredible deal on
these two items (both of which I own)...

http://tinyurl.com/ytesl

Piazza goes by the name "Signature Select" in the states for some
reason... and is targeted to professional kitchens... try here

http://tinyurl.com/29747

~john


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"Levelwave©" > wrote in message
...
> Dennis Spexet wrote:
>
> > I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent messages from
you
> > (within the past few weeks or months) on cookware. (Maybe I just didn't
> > look hard enough.) However, I found several that you had posted over a
year
> > ago mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?
>
>
> Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to cost you more
> than that All-Clad... Williams Sonoma is running an incredible deal on
> these two items (both of which I own)...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ytesl
>
> Piazza goes by the name "Signature Select" in the states for some
> reason... and is targeted to professional kitchens... try here
>
> http://tinyurl.com/29747

I saw that too...apparently, Piazza is also marketed here in the U.S. as
Dura-Ware Signature Select, for commercial use.

Unfortunately, the www.piazza.it website is "under construction", so all I
have to go on are the descriptions from the different vendors that sell the
brand. It looks like beautiful stuff (judging from the little thumbnail
pictures each vendor has), but I'm wondering how it's different from the
other high-end vendors like All-Clad. Is the aluminum in the base thicker
or something? Do you get heavier or better construction? (It certainly
looks like it.)

I'll browse through some of Sheldon's old messages to see why he raves about
it.

That brazier and stockpot at W-S definitely look like great deals. Time to
put in an order, and see how they turn out.

-Dennis Spexet,

Dennis Spexet wrote:

> but I'm wondering how it's different from the
> other high-end vendors like All-Clad. Is the aluminum in the base thicker
> or something? Do you get heavier or better construction? (It certainly
> looks like it.)

Piazza has spot-wielded handles whereas All-Clad has stainless rivets...
Piazza does not have the triple-ply construction of the All-Clad but it
does have a thick aluminum bottom which holds heat better than the
All-clad... I'm not 100% convinced that tri-ply clad is not a gimmick...
they both cook well but if I was going to pick purely on aesthetics I'd
pick the Piazza any day... not as shiny (if that's what your looking
for) but it definitely looks more elegant...

> That brazier and stockpot at W-S definitely look like great deals. Time to
> put in an order, and see how they turn out.

Do you really need an 11qt stockpot? The Brazier is definitely a must
have - from stove to table...

~john



--
"Black holes are where God divided by Zero." - Steven Wright

>Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to cost you more
>than that All-Clad...
>
>~john


Nonsense... All-Crap costs about three times the price and everything about
PIAZZA is three times better.

The Williams-Sonoma pieces are an excellent deal (new old stock), and are made
slightly different from the ones sold at other websites, they're heavier weight
and have the rolled rim edge.... last year they featured the 18qt stock pot at
$70... indespensible for preparing my tomato sauce... I have every piece ever
offered by W-S. Just look at the ridiculous prices All-Crap charges for their
large stockpots... and PIAZZAs are true stock pots, All-Crap is a sauce pot
and its itty bitty handles placed right at the extreme top rim are not only
useless, they make the pot dangerous for pouring. Btw, modern spot welding is
far superiour to rivets. If you're into the retro look and name dropping buy
All-Crap... if you want highly functional design and superiour quality at
reasonable prices buy PIAZZA.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
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"Levelwave©" > wrote in message
...

> Do you really need an 11qt stockpot? The Brazier is definitely a must
> have - from stove to table...

It looks like someone beat me to the stockpots! I just went to the W-S
website to put in my order, and the stockpots were gone.

No big deal for now. I'm currently using a 12qt Tramontina stockpot that I
picked up at a Walmart for $25 on sale. It doesn't have the fanciest
construction in the world. However, the base is reasonably heavy, and the
price wasn't bad. For making stocks and boiling water, it has worked out OK
for me.

Fortunately, W-S still had the Piazza braziers. I just put in my order!

Now it's just a matter of waiting.

-Dennis Spexet,