Hello,

I'm looking for a device that would make it easier and/or more efficient to
make water extractions of "herbal tea" (in particular, Kratom). I make the
extract by boiling the powdered leaf for an hour or so. I then strain the
liquid and press the leaf to get as much liquid out as I can, and then
re-boil the leaf and repeat the process a second time. Right now, I use a
handheld "herb press" thingy, which works pretty well as far as getting all
the liquid out, but it is messy and a pain to use.

I've never used a French coffee press, but the concept seems to be what I'm
looking for - you press down on the central strainer/press thing, and the
coffee (or herb in my case) would stay at the bottom, allowing the liquid to
be poured off the top. However, I've not seen one that is big enough for my
purposes. Ideally, I would like to have a French coffee press (or something
similar) the size of a large cooking pot.

Any suggestions?? It doesn't have to be a cofee press, just a big pot that
I can boil, strain, and press in without having to transfer the contents.

Thanks!

Mike

John wrote:

> Any suggestions??


Yes. Now stop cross-posting...

~john


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Excuse me, but what is your problem? I cross-posted my message because
there are a number of different cooking-related newsgroups, none of which
appeared to be any more relevant than the others.

So, exactly what is the issue here?

Regards,

Mike


"Levelwave©" > wrote in message
...
> John wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions??
>
>
> Yes. Now stop cross-posting...
>
> ~john
>
>
> --
> "Black holes are where God divided by Zero." - Steven Wright

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:30:55 -0400, "John" > wrote:

>Excuse me, but what is your problem? I cross-posted my message because
>there are a number of different cooking-related newsgroups, none of which
>appeared to be any more relevant than the others.
>
>So, exactly what is the issue here?
>
>Regards,
>
>Mike

Hey Mike,

Perhaps I missed something, but why not use a French coffee press? It
seems to me that it would do just what you want.

HTH,

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Kenneth > wrote in
:

> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:30:55 -0400, "John" > wrote:
>
>>Excuse me, but what is your problem? I cross-posted my message because
>>there are a number of different cooking-related newsgroups, none of which
>>appeared to be any more relevant than the others.
>>
>>So, exactly what is the issue here?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mike
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Perhaps I missed something, but why not use a French coffee press? It
> seems to me that it would do just what you want.
>
> HTH,
>

Do it on the cheap. a saucepan and a strainer. Get water to boiling , add
strainer with tea inside. After tea is steeped ready remove strainer.

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

"Kenneth" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:30:55 -0400, "John" > wrote:
>
> >Excuse me, but what is your problem? I cross-posted my message because
> >there are a number of different cooking-related newsgroups, none of which
> >appeared to be any more relevant than the others.
> >
> >So, exactly what is the issue here?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mike
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Perhaps I missed something, but why not use a French coffee press? It
> seems to me that it would do just what you want.

Hi Kenneth,

Well, I would just use a French coffee press, except for two things:

1. I've not been able to find one big enough.
2. In the ones I've looked at, you can't actually cook IN the press...you
boil the water separately, then pour it into the press to steep.

For the stuff I'm making, I need to use larger quantities, and, more
importantly, I need the leaves to boil with the water for at least an hour,
and then repeat the process.

If I could find a really big French press that you can actually boil the
water in, that would work dandy.

Thanks,

Mike


>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

"hahabogus" > wrote in message
...
> Kenneth > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:30:55 -0400, "John" > wrote:
> >
> >>Excuse me, but what is your problem? I cross-posted my message because
> >>there are a number of different cooking-related newsgroups, none of
which
> >>appeared to be any more relevant than the others.
> >>
> >>So, exactly what is the issue here?
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Mike
> >
> > Hey Mike,
> >
> > Perhaps I missed something, but why not use a French coffee press? It
> > seems to me that it would do just what you want.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
>
> Do it on the cheap. a saucepan and a strainer. Get water to boiling , add
> strainer with tea inside. After tea is steeped ready remove strainer.

Well, that's basically what I am doing now - I have one of those expensive
fine-screen "cone" strainers (I needed a very fine screen because my leaves
are finely powdered). After straining, I take the leaf material and squeeze
it "dry"(ish) with the herb press thing.

Now, I've gotten a few friends interested in this stuff (Kratom), so I find
myself making quite a few big batches of it on a regular basis. The
separate strainer and herb press are messy (I spill leaf material all over)
and a pain to use (one scoop of material at a time.)

I mean, my current mechanism works, but I'm hoping for something better!

Thanks for the replies,

Mike

>
> --
> Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
> and water.
> --------
> FIELDS, W. C.

"John" > wrote in :

>
> "hahabogus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Kenneth > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:30:55 -0400, "John" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Excuse me, but what is your problem? I cross-posted my message
>> >>because there are a number of different cooking-related newsgroups,
>> >>none of
> which
>> >>appeared to be any more relevant than the others.
>> >>
>> >>So, exactly what is the issue here?
>> >>
>> >>Regards,
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >
>> > Hey Mike,
>> >
>> > Perhaps I missed something, but why not use a French coffee press?
>> > It seems to me that it would do just what you want.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>>
>> Do it on the cheap. a saucepan and a strainer. Get water to boiling ,
>> add strainer with tea inside. After tea is steeped ready remove
>> strainer.
>
> Well, that's basically what I am doing now - I have one of those
> expensive fine-screen "cone" strainers (I needed a very fine screen
> because my leaves are finely powdered). After straining, I take the
> leaf material and squeeze it "dry"(ish) with the herb press thing.
>
> Now, I've gotten a few friends interested in this stuff (Kratom), so I
> find myself making quite a few big batches of it on a regular basis.
> The separate strainer and herb press are messy (I spill leaf material
> all over) and a pain to use (one scoop of material at a time.)
>
> I mean, my current mechanism works, but I'm hoping for something
> better!
>
> Thanks for the replies,
>
> Mike
>
>>
>> --
>> Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but
>> food and water.
>> --------
>> FIELDS, W. C.
>
>
>

Have you considered making reusable tea bags from cheese cloth? Also "you
fill a bag" tea bags are available to purchase.

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

If you want to make a large quanty, how about a stock pot with a professional
sized chinois (China cap) strainer? Put the herb in the strainer put the
strainer in the boiling water. When finished, remove the strainer, pour off
the first batch and start over with the herbs still in the strainer.

TheCatinTX wrote:

> If you want to make a large quanty, how about a stock pot with
> a professional sized chinois (China cap) strainer? Put the herb
> in the strainer put the strainer in the boiling water. When finished,
> remove the strainer, pour off the first batch and start over with
> the herbs still in the strainer.

Why does it have to be so complicated? Sheesh.

Why can't you just put the herbs in a JUICE BAG,
like a giant teabag? Why do you need so many tools?
China cap, indeed! I bet you're one of these people
who covers their butter when not using it, and puts it
in the refrigerator in the compartment marked "Butter",
with the word "Butter" on the cover of the butter dish
oriented so it reads correctly when the door on the
butter compartment is opened.

Yeah, I know your type. You use a candy thermometer
to judge how far done is the syrup. And -- get this --
you use a whole different thermometer for the fat
when deep frying. You keep your cupboard stocked
with TWO different thicknesses of aluminum foil.
Napkin rings every day, and the curved edge of the
butter knife facing toward or away from the water
glass.

It must be a terrible curse to live like that, having
some abstract need to accumulate more and more
tools and rituals, just in case the situation ever arises
in which you need exactly that. A guest shows up
and as a surprise brings along fresh strawberries.
Without your stainless-steel strawberry dehuller,
the situation could have been lost! But thanks to your
foresight, you had the one tool that could save the day.
Everybody was so impressed that we all gathered
around you and expressed gratitude for your existence
and gave you a great big hug of unconditional love.

Ain't going to happen! Hope this helps. :-)

John wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a device that would make it easier and/or more efficient to
> make water extractions of "herbal tea" (in particular, Kratom). I make the
> extract by boiling the powdered leaf for an hour or so. I then strain the
> liquid and press the leaf to get as much liquid out as I can, and then
> re-boil the leaf and repeat the process a second time. Right now, I use a
> handheld "herb press" thingy, which works pretty well as far as getting all
> the liquid out, but it is messy and a pain to use.
>
> I've never used a French coffee press, but the concept seems to be what I'm
> looking for - you press down on the central strainer/press thing, and the
> coffee (or herb in my case) would stay at the bottom, allowing the liquid to
> be poured off the top. However, I've not seen one that is big enough for my
> purposes. Ideally, I would like to have a French coffee press (or something
> similar) the size of a large cooking pot.
>
> Any suggestions?? It doesn't have to be a cofee press, just a big pot that
> I can boil, strain, and press in without having to transfer the contents.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>

How about a stockpot with a spigot on the bottom?

http://tinyurl.com/2nl65

You might have to rig something to cover the hole on the inside because
I don't believe these have any kind of strainer.

Barbara

Barbara Wetherington > wrote in
:

> How about a stockpot with a spigot on the bottom?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2nl65
>
> You might have to rig something to cover the hole on the inside because
> I don't believe these have any kind of strainer.
>
> Barbara
>

One of those large coffee perculators. Where the tea would be filtered?

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

"hahabogus" > wrote in message
...
>
> Have you considered making reusable tea bags from cheese cloth? Also "you
> fill a bag" tea bags are available to purchase.

Hmm...I had originally considered using cheese cloth as a strainer, but I
was concerned that too much of the active ingredients (alkaloids) would get
"stuck" to the cloth...which is why I got the expensive fine-screen
strainer. However, this is a bit different. If I wrap the powdered leaves
in the cloth, I could then individually squeeze each bag with my herb
press - which should be easier and less messy.

So, that's a good idea, I'll give it a try and see how it goes. (But keep
the ideas coming if anyone has any other suggestions!)

Thanks,

Mike


>
> --
> Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
> and water.
> --------
> FIELDS, W. C.

Cool, thanks for the reply - I'll look into this suggestion (I don't know
what a China Cap strainer is right now).

Thanks!

Mike


"TheCatinTX" > wrote in message
...
> If you want to make a large quanty, how about a stock pot with a
professional
> sized chinois (China cap) strainer? Put the herb in the strainer put the
> strainer in the boiling water. When finished, remove the strainer, pour
off
> the first batch and start over with the herbs still in the strainer.
>
>

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:17:53 -0400, "John" > wrote:

>Cool, thanks for the reply - I'll look into this suggestion (I don't know
>what a China Cap strainer is right now).
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mike

Hi Mike,

It is a cone shaped strainer device available with different mesh for
different purposes.

Here are some decent photos to give you an idea:

http://www.foodservicedirect.com/ind...r_&_Pestle.htm

HTH,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

<snip>
>
> Have you considered making reusable tea bags from cheese cloth? Also "you
> fill a bag" tea bags are available to purchase.
>


How about spice bags?

Hi.
The onlything I could think of that would be good too, but still not big
enough tho, is a vacuum coffee brewer. I have used it before to extract
flavours.
Just an idea
Jon

John wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a device that would make it easier and/or more efficient to
> make water extractions of "herbal tea" (in particular, Kratom). I make the
> extract by boiling the powdered leaf for an hour or so. I then strain the
> liquid and press the leaf to get as much liquid out as I can, and then
> re-boil the leaf and repeat the process a second time. Right now, I use a
> handheld "herb press" thingy, which works pretty well as far as getting all
> the liquid out, but it is messy and a pain to use.
>
> I've never used a French coffee press, but the concept seems to be what I'm
> looking for - you press down on the central strainer/press thing, and the
> coffee (or herb in my case) would stay at the bottom, allowing the liquid to
> be poured off the top. However, I've not seen one that is big enough for my
> purposes. Ideally, I would like to have a French coffee press (or something
> similar) the size of a large cooking pot.
>
> Any suggestions?? It doesn't have to be a cofee press, just a big pot that
> I can boil, strain, and press in without having to transfer the contents.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike

In article >, DaCook >
wrote:

> Hi.
> The onlything I could think of that would be good too, but still not big
> enough tho, is a vacuum coffee brewer. I have used it before to extract
> flavours.

But the OP wants to boil the mixture for an hour--regardless of the
size, a vac pot would be inappropriate.

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John wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a device that would make it easier and/or more efficient to
> make water extractions of "herbal tea" (in particular, Kratom). I make the
> extract by boiling the powdered leaf for an hour or so. I then strain the
> liquid and press the leaf to get as much liquid out as I can, and then
> re-boil the leaf and repeat the process a second time. Right now, I use a
> handheld "herb press" thingy, which works pretty well as far as getting all
> the liquid out, but it is messy and a pain to use.
>
> I've never used a French coffee press, but the concept seems to be what I'm
> looking for - you press down on the central strainer/press thing, and the
> coffee (or herb in my case) would stay at the bottom, allowing the liquid to
> be poured off the top. However, I've not seen one that is big enough for my
> purposes. Ideally, I would like to have a French coffee press (or something
> similar) the size of a large cooking pot.
>
> Any suggestions?? It doesn't have to be a cofee press, just a big pot that
> I can boil, strain, and press in without having to transfer the contents.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike

An hour of boiling ruins any infusion I can think of. Imagine coffee,
for one. Do you want the extract for its flavor, or for some other
purpose?

Jerry
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>> "I. Shitumuch" writes:
>>
>> I'm looking for a device that would make it easier and/or more efficient to
>> make water extractions of "herbal tea" (in particular, Kratom). I make the
>> extract by boiling the powdered leaf for an hour or so. I then strain the
>> liquid and press the leaf to get as much liquid out as I can, and then
>> re-boil the leaf and repeat the process a second time. Right now, I use a
>> handheld "herb press" thingy, which works pretty well as far as getting all
>> the liquid out, but it is messy and a pain to use.
>>
>> I've never used a French coffee press, but the concept seems to be what I'm
>> looking for - you press down on the central strainer/press thing, and the
>> coffee (or herb in my case) would stay at the bottom, allowing the liquid
>to
>> be poured off the top. However, I've not seen one that is big enough for
>my
>> purposes. Ideally, I would like to have a French coffee press (or
>something
>> similar) the size of a large cooking pot.
>>
>> Any suggestions?? It doesn't have to be a cofee press, just a big pot that
>> I can boil, strain, and press in without having to transfer the contents.

Have you considered a septic system?



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